Ugly bastards - why and for whom?

[MrsPotatoes]

Would you please help me understand this fetish? I don't understand what is the appeal of it - is it the contrast of really ugly guy and a beautiful, slim ,sexy girl? Or is it just about ugly people in general? Is it a fetish more for men or for women? Does it work the other way around with an ugly girl? Is it about picturing yourself in the place of the ugly character? It is more about the theme of the story - for example humiliation, which fits the ugly bastards visual side? And lasty, does "ugly bastard" mean something specific?

I am a developer and doing research about different fetishes and I am just completely missing the point of this one, even though I am myself drawn to making such game, not sure why
Thanks for all opinions!

 

[Chalker]

(for reference's sake, I don't like ugly bastards, but i've spent time around coomers. )
Overall, the main thing is that some people like watching pure things be made "not-pure", I guess a parallel would be something like people enjoying watching buildings be destroyed. Destruction, corruption, and chaos can be fun and used to vent frustration.

>is it the contrast of really ugly guy and a beautiful, slim ,sexy girl?
For some, yes that's a big part. But for most, it's the humiliating aspect.
>Is it a fetish more for men or for women? Does it work the other way around with an ugly girl?
I guess for anyone who has some sort of sadistic streak in them, men or women. I don't think the reverse is the same because a decent chunk of dudes would think "still fucked bro" and it's seen as less degrading.
>Is it about picturing yourself in the place of the ugly character?
I think that's less common, but for some, maybe.
>It is more about the theme of the story - for example humiliation, which fits the ugly bastards visual side?
Yeah, common themes tied around ugly bastards are humiliation, degradation, corruption and fetishes tied to those.
kind of like a "she's such a whore she'd even fuck old ugly guys!" type thing.
>And lasty, does "ugly bastard" mean something specific?
Yes, it refers to Trickstar's physical appearance ;p. Not really, but their are some common archetypes like the usual fat old janitor

 

[Deleted member 5410619]

To me ugly basterd has several appeals.

1: Challange.
Stud money bags getting laid is boring.
Ugly good for nothing fatso getting laid is a victory against the odds.
Same reason people like the underdog to win.
It feels more rewarding when you have to earn it then when it is given to you.

2: Corruption.
This is the main reason why people like myself like ugly basterd.
A worthless piece of trash doesnt just rape the schoolgirl.
He makes her addicted to his cock.
It is all about that breaking.
The sweet taste of corrupting the inocent.

3: Domination.
It is one thing to dominate a woman when your handsome, strong and rich.
It is an other thing when your an overweight mcdonels employee.

So in the simplest of terms.
Ugly basterd is a fetish for those who want to see the losers of life dominate woman.
Bonus if she hated him before the rape started.

I dont think a ever seen ugly basterd in consencial sex.
Woudnt fit the fetish anyway.
The point of being an ugly basterd is being a basterd that does aweful things to get what he want.

Related:
Ugly barsterds dont pity themselves.
They believe they either have a right to the pussy or blame the victem.
They are basterd in every sense of the word.
No redeeming quality outside there big mindbreaking cock.

 

[Nakhranoth]

I love the fetish, but to me personally it has nothing to do with humiliation or domination or conflicts or violence or oppression or power play or anything negative in the first place. I love the fetish when it's executed in a way whatever female or females in the action actually love having sex with one or (preferrably) multiple ugly bastards, as they would enjoy anyone else as well (think very promiscuous females who do it with anyone). A good example of this (although the game is centered on corruption), is slut route Maya from Insight of You (a game on this site). The contrast between appearances and also the notion of 'she just gives and receives pleasure without discrimination' are what do it for me.

 

[desmosome]

It's corruption. Females becoming degenrate enough to bang homeless people and such.

 

[kharza]

I think it comes down to demographics. A considerable portion of people playing sex games (at least beyond the vanilla stuff) don´t consider themselves attractive. Now in these games seeing someone that´s even less attractive than them (the ugly bastard) fucking a perfect beuty makes uncosciounly think: hey, this could totally be me! Which in effect makes them insert themselves more into the sex scene -- making it more enjoyable.

Now I don´t mean this as a sort of critism, I just believe that his kink is more about the manipulation of the unconscious, rather than just liking to see ugly bastards in sex scenes.

I´m not saying that the corruption aspect of it doesn´t play a part, but I don´t think that is the reason why this kink is popular.

 

[MrsPotatoes]

Wow thank you all for such a great answers, I definitely didn't expect that! Well, I expected humiliation to play a big role but honestly what I am mostly surprised is the ugly bastard being the dominant / arrogant / corruptor.

I always thought it is more the other way around, where the pretty and dominant girl seduces the ugly and low esteemed poor looser who is pitying himself..

Of course I know every scenario could work and is probably turn on for someone, I just wasn't expecting that angle at all, when he is the one with the influence / power!

 

[GropyMcGropster]

To me ugly basterd has several appeals.

1: Challange.
Stud money bags getting laid is boring.
Ugly good for nothing fatso getting laid is a victory against the odds.
Same reason people like the underdog to win.
It feels more rewarding when you have to earn it then when it is given to you.

2: Corruption.
This is the main reason why people like myself like ugly basterd.
A worthless piece of trash doesnt just rape the schoolgirl.
He makes her addicted to his cock.
It is all about that breaking.
The sweet taste of corrupting the inocent.

3: Domination.
It is one thing to dominate a woman when your handsome, strong and rich.
It is an other thing when your an overweight mcdonels employee.

So in the simplest of terms.
Ugly basterd is a fetish for those who want to see the losers of life dominate woman.
Bonus if she hated him before the rape started.

I dont think a ever seen ugly basterd in consencial sex.
Woudnt fit the fetish anyway.
The point of being an ugly basterd is being a basterd that does aweful things to get what he want.

Related:
Ugly barsterds dont pity themselves.
They believe they either have a right to the pussy or blame the victem.
They are basterd in every sense of the word.
No redeeming quality outside there big mindbreaking cock.

any game recommendations with these? I've seen plenty ugly bastards "scenes", tho i dont think ive ever seen a game centered around it.

 

[Losersriot]

Young boys love older women, it's an Oedipus complex. Young girls love older men because it's an Electra complex. Sigmund Freud.

 

[Losersriot]

Ugly bastards is daddy (dilf) fetish. I like this game, because i like feeling myself beloved someone who power then i.

 

[Deleted member 5410619]

any game recommendations with these? I've seen plenty ugly bastards "scenes", tho i dont think ive ever seen a game centered around it.

No.
Unfortantly.
Plenty of comics tho.

 

[coffeeaddicted]

Would you please help me understand this fetish? I don't understand what is the appeal of it - is it the contrast of really ugly guy and a beautiful, slim ,sexy girl? Or is it just about ugly people in general? Is it a fetish more for men or for women? Does it work the other way around with an ugly girl? Is it about picturing yourself in the place of the ugly character? It is more about the theme of the story - for example humiliation, which fits the ugly bastards visual side? And lasty, does "ugly bastard" mean something specific?

I am a developer and doing research about different fetishes and I am just completely missing the point of this one, even though I am myself drawn to making such game, not sure why
Thanks for all opinions!

I would say that it is more of an allegory than anything else. Especially in Video Games.
There aren't many young women that would like to be used by an ugly old man, though i am sure there are some.
Mostly, it's to bring out the ugly in a character to emphasize the horrid persons alligment.
It's a theme you will find in painting of artist as well.

One game i remember that did it kind of well was Getting in to Jennifer.
If you look at the guy at the building, there is no chance she ever would but for story purpose she did and enjoyed it.
Its appalling in many ways, but then again these are porn games we are talking about. So nothing makes sense anyway.
Women are usually objects nothing more.
As a male you probably can insert yourself in a mean character to get what you want.
But the real devious approach would be probably the nice good looking guy that has very bad intentions. Though i haven't seen it very often.

 

[Goblin Feet]

I think they're meant to make the observer feel better about themselves, but there might also be a level degradation to it.

 

[balitz Method]

Basically the whole idea is tied up in a lowering of status. There's a consistent idea in ero-media created by men that women's status needs to be lowered (their purity "corrupted" &c) and the porn logic is that the further their status is lowered the sluttier they'll act/the more they'll want to debase themselves. Being raped by a guy who looks like a pig, especially if they're a virgin, is a big drop in status.

 

[balitz Method]

Does it work the other way around with an ugly girl?

An equivalent for guys is being fucked by a stronger man. It's phrased as a humiliation and an instant lowering of status. You'll see this show up in cuckold/NTR, sissy, and sadistic BDSM-themed BL.

There's not much of anything that features ugly girls. Some otome and other ero-works that are for-women-by-women will feature plain jane wallflowery leads but that's a blank slate self-insert.

Imagery in porn is almost always shorthand for something and ugly women don't immediately signal a message the way a fat, ugly man does. They could be presented as a lowering of status, but it'd be a bit muddled/unconvincing. In guy world pussy is still considered somewhat desirable even when it's bad and getting it is a raising of status even if it's very slight. That's also why F/M rape is still a weird subject; some people genuinely don't believe that a man would ever not want it.

 

[balitz Method]

I always thought it is more the other way around, where the pretty and dominant girl seduces the ugly and low esteemed poor looser who is pitying himself..

Malaficus made a good breakdown of the basic corruption arc. It usually starts with rape (the initial lowering of status) and from that point forward she's forced to obey him. As he degrades and dominates her more and more she gets sluttier and sluttier until any notion of having standards or being able to reject even an ugly bastard are worn away and all that's left is a slut who's so addicted to dicks that she'll seek it out from anyone.

What you're describing is more of a femdom angle. That might have a protagonist who isn't particularly good-looking, but they're usually not a human pig.

 

[Icarus Media]

Ask not for whom the ugly bastard cucks, he cucks for thee.

 

[Deleted member 6385753]

Most people seem to hate ugly bastards. But I think an ugly bastard works better as more of an protagonistic role rather than the antagonist. Not because they are ugly, but because they are a bastard. Playing as a rich and handsome MC is boring as hell.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

Most people seem to hate ugly bastards. But I think an ugly bastard works better as more of an protagonistic role rather than the antagonist. Not because they are ugly, but because they are a bastard. Playing as a rich and handsome MC is boring as hell.

Good point. I can't think of too many "fugly bullied MC takes revenge" games. Certainly no female-MC ones.

 

[rk-47]

as long as the ugly mc has a big cock his face shouldnt matter, especially in a porn game