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Ren'Py Under Your Spell [v0.3.1] [Shady Characters]

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sillyrobot

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Apr 22, 2019
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OK, is this game supposed to be an exercise in frustration and humiliation or am I completing missing some basic game feature that makes the challenges possible?

I bought the lucky cloverleaf. I spent (almost) every moment training knowledge and spellpower getting my score to the 50s, prowess to low 30s and leaving the rest of my scores at or near starting levels.

I was obviously unprepared for my exams still.

I get to the Trial of the Mind and after save-scumming half a dozen times to try and get a favorable set of results, do miserably here too. It seems to test pretty much all my stats, but the game goes out of its way to warn you to concentrate and has a stat decay feature that is opaque in nature AND the challenges are hard enough that the 50s in knowledge and spellpower still don't pass much of the time. Spreading the points around looks like I would simply fail harder at knowledge and spellpower and slightly less hard at imagination and appeal.
 

lazydude

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Dec 21, 2017
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OK, is this game supposed to be an exercise in frustration and humiliation or am I completing missing some basic game feature that makes the challenges possible?

I bought the lucky cloverleaf. I spent (almost) every moment training knowledge and spellpower getting my score to the 50s, prowess to low 30s and leaving the rest of my scores at or near starting levels.

I was obviously unprepared for my exams still.

I get to the Trial of the Mind and after save-scumming half a dozen times to try and get a favorable set of results, do miserably here too. It seems to test pretty much all my stats, but the game goes out of its way to warn you to concentrate and has a stat decay feature that is opaque in nature AND the challenges are hard enough that the 50s in knowledge and spellpower still don't pass much of the time. Spreading the points around looks like I would simply fail harder at knowledge and spellpower and slightly less hard at imagination and appeal.
the choices in the trial are a dice roll no matter your stats though higher stats do offer better odds
 

Darkwood II

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May 21, 2018
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Yeah it is dumb as fuck that all the events are dice rolls where you don't get to see the maths in the background, let alone the stat deterioration being random too.
I would ask for a walkthrough but there is legit nothing you can do to make one if the game still say fuck you if you do everything right.
 

AlexofthePond

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Oct 5, 2022
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I really wanted to enjoy this but sadly the mechanics are trash. Feel like I'm always taking a bath to refill stamina. My skills decay if I don't train them that day, none of the skill parameters for anything are disclosed so I never know what skills are needed when, nothing to even guide me in the right direction either like hints, no trackable stats for the girls so I have no idea what my standing with anyone actually is, what i did to get there, when I'll see them next or what to do to see them next.
The game essentially just says try everything randomly until you get a playthrough that works and that is complete bullshit. I saw good art and potential for a fun time, I came for that NOT to grind through multiple playthroughs of a game, recording my actions so I can do things differently in the future if I reach a bad outcome. I want to know what my options are and some idea of how to get to those options. I hope this game gets a serious reworking in the future. As long as the gameplay is like this I won't be spending anymore time on this game.
 

CuriousPatron

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Dec 6, 2022
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As good as the art is, looking through the files the only NSFW scene i can find is the MC peeking into a bathroom, im not a professional but thats all i could find. And as many have mentioned the mechanics/grind/save-scumming is just bad.
 
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Percipere0

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Hmmm, to all the "critics" trashing on the game, it's pretty disingenuous to trash on an as yet INCOMPLETE game for stuff that's not even in the game YET. I guess it's pretty easy to punch down on content not being there, without an understanding of the development process, sheesh.
 

Darkwood II

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May 21, 2018
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Hmmm, to all the "critics" trashing on the game, it's pretty disingenuous to trash on an as yet INCOMPLETE game for stuff that's not even in the game YET. I guess it's pretty easy to punch down on content not being there, without an understanding of the development process, sheesh.
Except for the fact that we are criticising the parts that are already in the game, most of us aren't saying its bad because it lacks content, we are saying its bad because all of the content is locked behind random variables that the game does not show the player in any fashion. That is a core game mechanic that is already there and working as intended, we want it changed or removed.
 

Percipere0

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Feb 17, 2024
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Except for the fact that we are criticising the parts that are already in the game, most of us aren't saying its bad because it lacks content, we are saying its bad because all of the content is locked behind random variables that the game does not show the player in any fashion. That is a core game mechanic that is already there and working as intended, we want it changed or removed.
That part's fair, but, i would think that as the game is very far from finished in most aspects, that even the RNG factors aren't in their finalized forms, either. "Working as intended" for an unfinished game isn't "working as intended" for a final product. I've seen development that had placeholders and mechanics that were working as intended at least until close to being finished, whereupon it was removed or changed. For my own part, I'd probably want it to be a mix of guaranteed scenes upon hitting certain benchmarks, and then some smattering of RNG scenes with their own benchmarks in place.... So, your point is fair, but I think the criticism from others might be a tad bit impatient, regarding just how early development still is!
 

Karnewarrior

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's also not unfair to judge the game for content that isn't in, if it hasn't been in for a while and that's what you're complaining about.

This game has been under development for a really long time to have as little lewdness in it as it does. It's supposed to be a porn game, but the porn grows in this field more sparsely than bananas in the arctic.
 
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Josh M Spicer

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The idea that we can't criticize a game as it is released purely because it's unfinished always fuckin baffles me. I get not wanting to destroy a game critically just because it's not done, but a lot of people talk about a game as is.

It's not immune to criticism just because it's got years to go before its complete.
 

Vivatijuana

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Jan 21, 2020
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OK, is this game supposed to be an exercise in frustration and humiliation or am I completing missing some basic game feature that makes the challenges possible?

I bought the lucky cloverleaf. I spent (almost) every moment training knowledge and spellpower getting my score to the 50s, prowess to low 30s and leaving the rest of my scores at or near starting levels.

I was obviously unprepared for my exams still.

I get to the Trial of the Mind and after save-scumming half a dozen times to try and get a favorable set of results, do miserably here too. It seems to test pretty much all my stats, but the game goes out of its way to warn you to concentrate and has a stat decay feature that is opaque in nature AND the challenges are hard enough that the 50s in knowledge and spellpower still don't pass much of the time. Spreading the points around looks like I would simply fail harder at knowledge and spellpower and slightly less hard at imagination and appeal.
This game is complicated if you don't prioritize. First: you need knowledge. For exams and the first test of the tournament. Spend all your free time increasing your knowledge. That simply won't be enough. To improve your chances, you must choose the smart attribute at the start of the game and you must first buy the textbooks as soon as you unlock the village. (Since the latest updates, you won't be able to buy the textbook on the first try. That's why you'll have to beat the guy in the dark alley at the game of chance and then buy the Books from America.) Keep increasing that stat until you reach 80. At 70, you pass the exam with flying colors, and at 80, you'll pass all the questions. (During the tournament, if you don't have the option to answer a question, change your path.)

The final key to the game is to have powerful, yet varied, stats. Once you reach 80 with knowledge, prioritize spellpower (until eighty) and then prowess... And after that work on your imagination and, finally, in your appeal. Don't waste your time on jobs; only buy items when your family sends you money. And when you do, go first to the game of chance in the dark alley and win. (You can save the game, play, and if you lose, reload the game. Repeat this pattern until you beat the guy.)

The worst part of this game is: if you don't take care of your stats (with classes and/or free activities), they will deteriorate. To keep your stats stable and constantly increasing, you must only take two classes: Dueling Practice and Brewing. They'll give you only a small boost, but keep in mind that with that action you will accumulate four of the five stats and prevent their deterioration. It will also be easier for you to raise them after you reach eighty in knowledge . (Tip: as long as they don't deteriorate, dedicate all your free time to studying. When you see your stats deteriorating, use the weekends to raise the four of them/ Rest, take a bath on the week days.)

With the aforementioned plan, you'll forget appeal. But you'll nurture the other four stats from the very beginning. And you can work in that stat in the end.
 
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sillyrobot

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This game is complicated if you don't prioritize. First: you need knowledge. For exams and the first test of the tournament. Spend all your free time increasing your knowledge. That simply won't be enough. To improve your chances, you must choose the smart attribute at the start of the game and you must first buy the textbooks as soon as you unlock the village. (Since the latest updates, you won't be able to buy the textbook on the first try. That's why you'll have to beat the guy in the dark alley at the game of chance and then buy the Books from America.) Keep increasing that stat until you reach 80. At 70, you pass the exam with flying colors, and at 80, you'll pass all the questions. (During the tournament, if you don't have the option to answer a question, change your path.)

The final key to the game is to have powerful, yet varied, stats. Once you reach 80 with knowledge, prioritize spellpower (until eighty) and then prowess... And after that work on your imagination and, finally, in your appeal. Don't waste your time on jobs; only buy items when your family sends you money. And when you do, go first to the game of chance in the dark alley and win. (You can save the game, play, and if you lose, reload the game. Repeat this pattern until you beat the guy.)

The worst part of this game is: if you don't take care of your stats (with classes and/or free activities), they will deteriorate. To keep your stats stable and constantly increasing, you must only take two classes: Dueling Practice and Brewing. They'll give you only a small boost, but keep in mind that with that action you will accumulate four of the five stats and prevent their deterioration. It will also be easier for you to raise them after you reach eighty in knowledge . (Tip: as long as they don't deteriorate, dedicate all your free time to studying. When you see your stats deteriorating, use the weekends to raise the four of them/ Rest, take a bath on the week days.)

With the aforementioned plan, you'll forget appeal. But you'll nurture the other four stats from the very beginning. And you can work in that stat in the end.
Thanks for the reply. The game looks a bit too overtuned for me.
 

CrazyCloud

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Aug 26, 2019
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Love game flow, i just didn't knew that there were not NSFW when i started playing and I got into game so much that even forgot.... :ROFLMAO:
 
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