Very, very , dumb question :)

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It's not about fairy tales, it's about way more than this.

When one see someone being bullied, the moral thing to do is to stand in between the bully and his victim; this even more when the bully is a greedy mafiosi. And it's what is happening, period.
It's a good metaphor. I like. But I would have stand , not out of moral obligation. I would stand up, because if I don't, I'll be considered weak, which means they'll attack me too. Because i allowed it.
 

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It's a good metaphor. I like. But I would have stand , not out of moral obligation. I would stand up, because if I don't, I'll be considered weak, which means they'll attack me too. Because i allowed it.
It's the position of some countries, like Poland by example. Also the reason why Sweden and Finland ended their long tradition of neutrality. But in the end the reason matters less than the act itself.
 
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It's the position of some countries, like Poland by example. Also the reason why Sweden and Finland ended their long tradition of neutrality. But in the end the reason matters less than the act itself.
Huh no, My answer is not a metaphor, i just have brothers :HideThePain: :HideThePain: :HideThePain:
 

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It's the position of some countries, like Poland by example. Also the reason why Sweden and Finland ended their long tradition of neutrality. But in the end the reason matters less than the act itself.
Finland's neutrality was originally a forced one (there was a very real threat to end as a part of the Soviet block after the two lost wars). And as the history shows this country is ready to ally even with the Hitler himself to be safe from Russia.

It's a question of fear more than anything else. This is of course because all those wars between us especially when we were part of Sweden.

Because of Sweden's location and a long history as a state our western neighbours can afford to be more idealistic than us. Of course now most of my fellow countrymen seem to be opportunists in fear. That includes over 90% of politicians. (On the other hand Finland has been building close relationship with NATO for over two decades, so that there would be an opportunity to join quickly.)
 

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And as the history shows this country is ready to ally even with the Hitler himself to be safe from Russia.
And, as History shows, they wouldn't have had to ally with Germany if Sweden and, more importantly, England, haven't refused to ally with them in 1940.
They were also ready to keep that alliance purely defensive, and German's troops located in Finland had a strict interdiction to attack Russia until Finland officially joined the war. What happened the 25 June 1941, 4 days after the starts of Barbarossa, when Russia attacked Finland; bombing towns, not even the position of the German's troops.

So, your point is?


(On the other hand Finland has been building close relationship with NATO for over two decades, so that there would be an opportunity to join quickly.)
Fun fact: Before joining, Finland had the same status in NATO that Ukraine... and Russia...
The only difference with those two countries being that they actively participated, while Ukraine voluntarily limited its participation to not annoy Russia, and Russia haven't participated since Putin first election.

So, your point is?
 

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They were also ready to keep that alliance purely defensive, and German's troops located in Finland had a strict interdiction to attack Russia until Finland officially joined the war. What happened the 25 June 1941, 4 days after the starts of Barbarossa, when Russia attacked Finland; bombing towns, not even the position of the German's troops.

So, your point is?
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Sorry, you've to deal with it, you're on the wrong side of History since around 1900.

Thanks for you sacrifice, it let England and France take a deserved nap after a millennium having this role.
You sounds like Nazi "wrong side" :LUL: