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Jcak123

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Hey everyone,


I’m Jake part of a small indie team building ,a new creator platform in beta. We're trying to make something better than the usual big sites:


  • Lower fees (0% for the first 6 months)
  • More creative freedom (SFW & NSFW welcome)
  • Simple tools to post, earn, and connect

We know it’s hard to trust new platforms (especially with how many scams are out there), so we're being upfront:


  • We're not perfect, but we’re real.
  • We want creators to actually shape how the site works.
  • No gimmicks, no fake promises — just want your feedback.

If you’re curious, feel free to check it out or DM me. Even if you don’t join, any feedback is gold to us.


Thanks for reading
-Jake
 
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MissCougar

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The site is not reactive unfortunately, making browsing pretty tough. I assume at some point you need credit cards, are you using a third party processor? Will you get in trouble with the CC vendors or try to stay small enough to fly under radar? Are you guys PCI compliant or trying to avoid that through a vendor?

The site feels real amateur to be taking money from people. I hope it works for you though. Best of luck!
 

Jcak123

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The site is not reactive unfortunately, making browsing pretty tough. I assume at some point you need credit cards, are you using a third party processor? Will you get in trouble with the CC vendors or try to stay small enough to fly under radar? Are you guys PCI compliant or trying to avoid that through a vendor?

The site feels real amateur to be taking money from people. I hope it works for you though. Best of luck!
Thank you for the feedback. What do you mean by "not reactive"? Could you be more specific?
 
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Wankyudo

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What sets your platform apart from Patreon or Subscribestar? What kind of background does your security team have? Do you have a proper legal team backing your platform? What kind of marketing do you intend to do to try and achieve market relevancy for your creators?

These are all important questions. Because you're creating a platform in a billion dollar industry that can be catastrophic if mishandled. You're the middleman. You are putting yourself as the guy responsible for taking peoples money and adequate giving it to creators. If your security is bad, people lose money. If your legal team is bad, people end up with lawsuits.

Like I'm looking at your Creator Guidelines right now. What falls under "Age-appropriate adult content (18+)?" Because I can see you're saying that you're taking visa, mastercard, amex, discover. Are you aware that you'll have to specify much, much harder on that age-appropriate adult content when the payment processors come a-knocking? And then you'll have to curate and scrub your platform the same way patreon does or lose those payment processors? Doesn't matter if Stripe is the middleman between you and them; AMEX says 'No incest games,' to them, you're just as screwed as the rest of everyone else. There's also the real porn games; you'd have to turn those away. The clips in real porn games after all don't fit under fair use in their usage 99% of the time. Can you do that?

2.1 Age Requirement
  • You must be at least 18 years of age to create NSFW content.
  • In jurisdictions where the legal age of consent differs, you must comply with local laws.
  • We do not knowingly allow underage users and will terminate accounts and report illegal activity if discovered.
Like your age requirements. So let's say I'm a minor. I'm allowed to use Fanrealms as long as I'm not creating NSFW content. That's what you're saying, right? What about perusing? I'm not creating it so I can see all the titties that I want, right? In fact, since you don't inherently specify a floor for using fanrealms; it'd be fine if my nine year old sibling can use fanrealms! Oh, but I don't see anywhere where you specify you're COPPA compliant. You're not retaining any data of him, right? Because COPPA alone states that's extremely illegal. You can say that you do not knowingly allow underage users; but in court? That translates into negligence. Not absolving you of responsibility. Especially when you're not directly saying that they can not be on the platform.

What about
4.2 Refund Policy
No refunds for voluntary transactions.
Exceptions:
  • Unauthorized payments (report within 7 days).
  • Undelivered content (after 14 days of non-delivery).
Chargebacks will result in account suspension.

Are you a market place or a tip jar? If I was a creator, why would I want to come to your platform if some disgruntled kid could demand I didn't deliver within his time frame for a refund?


6. Termination & Suspension
  • We may terminate accounts for violations without refunds.
  • Users may appeal bans via support@fanrealms.com
What constitutes as a violation? How severe of a violation is required to be terminated? How can I be sure that your enforcement is in good faith? What is the timeline of appealing a ban if one were to be banned?

7. Dispute Resolution & Governing Law

"Governing Law: United States federal and state law."
Which state? What if the creator is not based in the US? Is this a US only service or a global service?

I can't even go into your copyright policy because it is blank.


Your line of "We're not perfect, but we're real." That's a nice line. If you were making a video game, or making a movie; that'd be fine. That doesn't fit the bill for what industry you're trying to encroach on. You need to be perfect; if you're going to try and put yourself into a line of work that could see the trafficking of millions of dollars between creators and patrons a-like. Before opening your platform, you really should have had a proper attorney write up all of your policies. You have enough legal loopholes to make someones head spin. Which it would be yours if one kid registered an account on your website. Doesn't matter if you don't have the money to acquire an attorney for it; you need one before trying this endeavor.
 

Jcak123

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Jul 29, 2024
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What sets your platform apart from Patreon or Subscribestar? What kind of background does your security team have? Do you have a proper legal team backing your platform? What kind of marketing do you intend to do to try and achieve market relevancy for your creators?

These are all important questions. Because you're creating a platform in a billion dollar industry that can be catastrophic if mishandled. You're the middleman. You are putting yourself as the guy responsible for taking peoples money and adequate giving it to creators. If your security is bad, people lose money. If your legal team is bad, people end up with lawsuits.

Like I'm looking at your Creator Guidelines right now. What falls under "Age-appropriate adult content (18+)?" Because I can see you're saying that you're taking visa, mastercard, amex, discover. Are you aware that you'll have to specify much, much harder on that age-appropriate adult content when the payment processors come a-knocking? And then you'll have to curate and scrub your platform the same way patreon does or lose those payment processors? Doesn't matter if Stripe is the middleman between you and them; AMEX says 'No incest games,' to them, you're just as screwed as the rest of everyone else. There's also the real porn games; you'd have to turn those away. The clips in real porn games after all don't fit under fair use in their usage 99% of the time. Can you do that?

2.1 Age Requirement
  • You must be at least 18 years of age to create NSFW content.
  • In jurisdictions where the legal age of consent differs, you must comply with local laws.
  • We do not knowingly allow underage users and will terminate accounts and report illegal activity if discovered.
Like your age requirements. So let's say I'm a minor. I'm allowed to use Fanrealms as long as I'm not creating NSFW content. That's what you're saying, right? What about perusing? I'm not creating it so I can see all the titties that I want, right? In fact, since you don't inherently specify a floor for using fanrealms; it'd be fine if my nine year old sibling can use fanrealms! Oh, but I don't see anywhere where you specify you're COPPA compliant. You're not retaining any data of him, right? Because COPPA alone states that's extremely illegal. You can say that you do not knowingly allow underage users; but in court? That translates into negligence. Not absolving you of responsibility. Especially when you're not directly saying that they can not be on the platform.

What about
4.2 Refund Policy
No refunds for voluntary transactions.
Exceptions:
  • Unauthorized payments (report within 7 days).
  • Undelivered content (after 14 days of non-delivery).
Chargebacks will result in account suspension.

Are you a market place or a tip jar? If I was a creator, why would I want to come to your platform if some disgruntled kid could demand I didn't deliver within his time frame for a refund?


6. Termination & Suspension
  • We may terminate accounts for violations without refunds.
  • Users may appeal bans via support@fanrealms.com
What constitutes as a violation? How severe of a violation is required to be terminated? How can I be sure that your enforcement is in good faith? What is the timeline of appealing a ban if one were to be banned?

7. Dispute Resolution & Governing Law



Which state? What if the creator is not based in the US? Is this a US only service or a global service?

I can't even go into your copyright policy because it is blank.


Your line of "We're not perfect, but we're real." That's a nice line. If you were making a video game, or making a movie; that'd be fine. That doesn't fit the bill for what industry you're trying to encroach on. You need to be perfect; if you're going to try and put yourself into a line of work that could see the trafficking of millions of dollars between creators and patrons a-like. Before opening your platform, you really should have had a proper attorney write up all of your policies. You have enough legal loopholes to make someones head spin. Which it would be yours if one kid registered an account on your website. Doesn't matter if you don't have the money to acquire an attorney for it; you need one before trying this endeavor.
Thank you for taking your time to give such long feedback. We understand these are important issues that we need to address. We have already scheduled a time with an attorney to talk about legal issues. We will give you a proper response once we have finished rewriting all the issues you’ve mentioned.





Thank you,


FanRealms Dev Team
 
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MissCougar

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Thank you for taking your time to give such long feedback. We understand these are important issues that we need to address. We have already scheduled a time with an attorney to talk about legal issues. We will give you a proper response once we have finished rewriting all the issues you’ve mentioned.





Thank you,


FanRealms Dev Team
I'd suggest shutting it down for the time being until you know what you are getting into. This could turn into a "my future lawsuit" thread. Opening a patreon contender requires a lot of legal prowess and payment processor knowledge and collaboration. I hope you are aware of PCI regulations and you should probably at least peek at them.

I hope you find success but you seem to be not aware of the requirements surrounding what you want to make and it might be safe to turn it off while you figure out some of these critical legal obligations and expectations around how you will do what you want to do.
 

anne O'nymous

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What kind of background does your security team have? Do you have a proper legal team backing your platform?
They clearly are two, so the answer to both question is: None.


7. Dispute Resolution & Governing Law

Which state?
Already pointed this, among many other issues, few days ago in his first (now disappeared) thread. He said that he noted my remarks, apparently he didn't...
Normally this should be the state where the company operating the platform is registered, but is there even a company to operate the platform?


What if the creator is not based in the US?
That point regard the dispute around the site itself, not with a creator. If you have a legal issue with a creator, it do not regard the site and it should depend on your own jurisdiction.


This could turn into a "my future lawsuit" thread.
And it can happen sooner than they think.

There's already a platform named (without the trailing "s"), operated by a company registered in Canada. And, seen the similitude between the two names, and since they seem to offer the same kind of service, they are in position to sue them for parasitism.

What reinforce my opinion regarding the answer to Wankyudo's two questions. Way too amateurish for them to have a security team and a legal team, even with a single person in each.
 

Jcak123

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Jul 29, 2024
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I'd suggest shutting it down for the time being until you know what you are getting into. This could turn into a "my future lawsuit" thread. Opening a patreon contender requires a lot of legal prowess and payment processor knowledge and collaboration. I hope you are aware of PCI regulations and you should probably at least peek at them.

I hope you find success but you seem to be not aware of the requirements surrounding what you want to make and it might be safe to turn it off while you figure out some of these critical legal obligations and expectations around how you will do what you want to do.
Since we are using stripe currently, we're mostly covered for PCI compliance
 

Jcak123

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I wish you the best of luck. You probably shouldn't be using stripe.
Thankfully, we are able to have a expereniced attorney to draft our Terms of Service, Privacy Policy, DMCA Policy & Takedown Procedure, Commission Agreement Template / Creator Monetization Terms, Refund & Dispute Policy, Age Verification / Adult Content Policy.
 

MissCougar

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We are a small team, I admit that, but how could we work to earn your trust?
Well I guess first off you could start by resolving your new error that's crashed your page, CloudFlare indicates the following to help you:



But I think on a scale of 1 to 10 it's a -5 for me for trust. Good luck. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Jcak123

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Well I guess first off you could start by resolving your new error that's crashed your page, CloudFlare indicates the following to help you:



But I think on a scale of 1 to 10 it's a -5 for me for trust. Good luck. :ROFLMAO:
The website isn't even up right now? It's currently down until we finish the drafting process for everything.
 

anne O'nymous

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We are a small team, I admit that, but how could we work to earn your trust?
By being a legal operation that act with transparency.

What is the name of the company operating the platform? Where is this company located? Those are the two mandatory, yet minimal, requirement if you want to be able to gain people trust.

You want to be an intermediary between people spending their money and people earning it. For people to accept to do one or the second, they need to at least know who they would have to sue if something goes bad.
 

XforU

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Why would anyone trust a platform that promotes itself on a pirate website, is breaking the Tos of their payment method provider, can't get the site the function, looks extremely Amature?
 
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Jcak123

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This isn't the only website we are asking for feedback; it's just that we received more responses from this website compared to the others.