HTML West Has Fallen: Reeducation [v0.2.0] [bastardSon099]

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knownelias

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Nah, dw about it, you seem like a super nice dude. I think the title isn't so much the issue- and it's mostly the intro exposition section where it's a little hard to tell whether the game is being ironic/parodical or completely serious. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but it seems like most of the 4chan set dressing is completely for laughs, so I'd maybe add a disclaimer or try to make it clear that it's not trying to make a political statement. Whatever you do, good luck with the game development! I can see you clearly care about making a good end product.
Exactly.
The tone of the intro exposition is presented as neutral and factual explanation to be taken at face-value. Combine that with the content being an irl conspiracy-theory that irl political parties have cultivated and pandered to. leads to... ick
I think the combination of content + author-is-narrating tone is the real mood-killer. Even though, contextually, we can determine it is obviously not based on reality and it depicts the world implementing an incredibly stupid non-solution and demonstrates it not working.

Reducing the ick-factor:
-Change the delivery/presentation
have it delivered by a clearly biased source (newscaster? government speech?). Bonus points if the MC is unsure how true the information is.​
-Lean harder into satire (depends on how confident you feel with your writing)
poe's law being a thing, you might benefit from beating the audience over the head with the point. You can introduce us to the MC's personality at the same time and use that to contextually explain how the audience is supposed to interpret the info.​
For example maybe the MC isn't the sharpest hammer in the bag, you can use that for situational humor while letting the audience be in on the joke (and lessens the boredom of being lectured on "this is a porn game, any resemblance to situations living or dead is purely coitusdental").​
Things like: "I 100% believe every word of this, it makes perfect sense." (in response to near-incomprehensible contradictory nonsense), "why would they lie?" (in response to people having their assets siezed and being shipped off to sissy school with flimsy/no explanation. Being clear to the audience that it's just a ploy for them to steal your stuff.), "It must be true, they've never had anyone on complaining about it." (obviously the complaints would never get aired on a government channel if they have high/total media control. Your setting is dystopian anyway, why not?)​
Same for any other traits you want to showcase. Are they only following along because they're convinced they're an alpha (and would oppose it if they thought otherwise)? Are they a pushover, oblivious/innocent, scared to make themselves a target?​

Or maybe just drop that specific bit altogether.
You can have interracial, you don't need to justify anyone's in-universe ethnicity lol. It doesn't need a weird migration angle.
You've got other avenues you could explore for the justification of alphabeta school. Most obvious would be something like maybe one of those insecure sunglasses-wearing dudebro "alpha-males" gets into power and decides to restructure society around pseudoscience. (title still makes sense because it is their view on how society has "gone soft" or whatever-they-pretend-to-believe and needs to be "corrected")

Hell, you don't even need any explanation. Just gloss over it or avoid it entirely.
"the west has fallen, bazillions must wear panties" is unironically as much of an explanation as you need for the "why" of things. Obviously followed by the "what" of things (you're being shipped off to sissy school with the alphas 'til they figure out what to do with you all). You can leave the actual in-universe explanation vague or absent and let the audience speculate.
If you give the impression you care about logical consistency, then that signals to the audience that they should also start caring about it (and then they'll ask dangerous questions like "why are they being kept after day 1? The teacher assigned different work to alphas, meaning they've already been assigned categories so why-"). If you can avoid it, you can handwave everything away with "because porn" which is better for everyone involved lmao.
 

droglob

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Anyone who actually gets rattled or get their views challenged by an HTML sissification porn game probably deserves their balls being Fembola'd. And yes, this game was made by FSB (feminized sissies' brotherhood).
Well someone's rattled alright. It doesn't matter if it's straight from the tap, some subverted parrot or done ironically for humor. It's a fact that first image is 100% FSB troll farm script. Also yes, porn can and has been instrumentalized for propaganda. Propaganda is not WOLOLO from Age of Empires, it's not meant to be a flip of a switch, it's meant to chip away without you noticing.
 
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bastardSon099

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guys plz... stop. i changed my userpic to a stupid looking dog to describe how i take all these comments about propaganda, politics and else

id really like to respond to everyone personally, but im afraid i just don't have enough hours in the day to do that. so i want to write one comment to clarify things:

this game is not a political message. the title plays off a meme, not mine position. and for me it always was just a meme. i don't mind joking about it, but don't try to find something really serious about it, plz

what you're discussing as propaganda is a setting that is necessary to argue what is going on in the game. the game setting, if you will. is it a parody of reality? do i think that's where we're going with this? no. im not writing a game for a setting, im writing a setting for a game to make what's going on seem more reasoned and interesting

maybe i take your posts too seriously by myself, but you write about it too much

please treat adult games as adult games
with all luv
 

Lerd0

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guys plz... stop. i changed my userpic to a stupid looking dog to describe how i take all these comments about propaganda, politics and else

id really like to respond to everyone personally, but im afraid i just don't have enough hours in the day to do that. so i want to write one comment to clarify things:

this game is not a political message. the title plays off a meme, not mine position. and for me it always was just a meme. i don't mind joking about it, but don't try to find something really serious about it, plz

what you're discussing as propaganda is a setting that is necessary to argue what is going on in the game. the game setting, if you will. is it a parody of reality? do i think that's where we're going with this? no. im not writing a game for a setting, im writing a setting for a game to make what's going on seem more reasoned and interesting

maybe i take your posts too seriously by myself, but you write about it too much

please treat adult games as adult games
with all luv
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bastardSon099

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If you are being genuine you did this to yourself. I don't know what you expect.

I honestly can't even understand what you are trying to say with that word salad about the setting needing to be this.
i dont expect people to take it so seriously. thats all.
 

HazedSS7

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Another disappointing 0.1 release.

The content/writing itself is fine, but it takes about 15-20 minutes to go through. The Patreon is there up and running though, so in case the developer gets bored with the game after an update or two, they'll have time to milk some money for all the countless hours this project must have taken.

And don't be fooled by the "sandbox" tag, even though the story so far takes place over nearly two weeks, you pretty much just have one button to proceed from a day to the next.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but at this rate, the game won't be worth playing until another 10 updates in, and I have serious doubts that it'll be developed for that long.
 
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bastardSon099

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Another disappointing 0.1 release.

The content/writing itself is fine, but it takes about 15-20 minutes to go through. The Patreon is there up and running though, so in case the developer gets bored with the game after an update or two, they'll have time to milk some money for all the countless hours this project must have taken.

And don't be fooled by the "sandbox" tag, even though the story so far takes place over nearly two weeks, you pretty much just have one button to proceed from a day to the next.

I'd love to be proven wrong, but at this rate, the game won't be worth playing until another 10 updates in, and I have serious doubts that it'll be developed for that long.
yeah, i think i got a little greedy when i created the patreon at early start. good point, i can't argue with that and you're 100% right

about sandbox yes too. current ver contains only intro part and in my vision it should be like this. i don't really happy that you and others are confused by it, i think my mistake that some tags should have been added later, but not with first game release, cause game will be slowly going into more unlinear path, but not immediately. along with this i have to say that it will never be completely sandboxed: it's a mood killer for me, exactly like completely linear games. because both of these types can't react properly to the player's actions

i hope i really don't drop the development (im realise that this abandoned section didn't just pop up from nowhere) and can surprise you with something later. thanks for feedback
 

HazedSS7

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Mar 28, 2018
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about sandbox yes too. current ver contains only intro part and in my vision it should be like this. i don't really happy that you and others are confused by it, i think my mistake that some tags should have been added later, but not with first game release, cause game will be slowly going into more unlinear path, but not immediately. along with this i have to say that it will never be completely sandboxed: it's a mood killer for me, exactly like completely linear games. because both of these types can't react properly to the player's actions

i hope i really don't drop the development (im realise that this abandoned section didn't just pop up from nowhere) and can surprise you with something later. thanks for feedback
I don't generally like complete sandbox games either, especially when the game is about feminization where you want to see the transformation of the MC occur and more importantly, the reactions of NPCs towards the transformation. Games like "Secretary" and "the Company" are prime examples of HTML games that offer nice player agency, but don't get bogged down by their sandbox elements.

When I feel like playing a more linear story, I usually look for Ren'Py games because at least then you don't feel like you're just browsing through a random ImageFap gallery which is something that happens with a lot these abandoned HTML games.

I also hope your vision is true and you don't lose your motivation. Like I said, I'd love to come back to this game some day and have you prove me wrong. I believe you have a good start of a game here, it just needs much more content to stand out.
 
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