Recommending Western Sharing Games List

[Phoenix1177]

Skimmed through Harmony Haven. It does seem to be a quality game in the making. Also it seems to be a rare example of a primary Netorase game that happen to have a (light) NTR route. On the Netorase route not much content so far - a few webcam shows and a roleplay in the bed (the husband pretends to be another man). So really slow burn but this is the case when it makes it more believable and immersive. The MC can be very dominant and smash faces left and right (I love it) - actually the more you kick asses, the better the MC becomes at it. So it pays off to resolve to violence at every opportunity just to raise the skill. A "problem" here is that on the dominant path the MC makes his hot stepmom and her hot daughter extremely wet and it's hard to resist the temptation to cheat with them. If you want to, tho, you can get NTS content with the stepmom - she has a "suitor" and you can either tell him to fuck off or watch him pound her - but it's not my type of NTS (you can also do neither - just let them date without you watching). Besides the stepmom and her daughter, you can also cheat with a hot collegue. Damn, all girls are hot here so I'm definitely doing a cheater playthrough next. You can also get a permission from the wife to do things with other girls, but she is not happy about it and agrees only because she doesn't want to lose you - so it's rather selfish on the husband's part. The wife can also cheat, there are two options - a black guy and a white guy. If she starts relationship with the black guy - it's just lust, without hard emotions. It's kind of cheating I can even have on my NTS playthrough. With the white guy it's more emotional and NTRish. With the black guy only 2 handjobs available, and with the white guy only a blowjob. Actually scenes with the black guy come after the husbands confession about his NTS fetish, so technically you can frame it as her just exploring it, not cheating, but I declined that - I will wait until the spouses have explicit agreement about such things.

PS oh actually the wife can "cheat" a little with the young gardener, but it's just light touching so far. I think he will certainly appear in there sharing route. He is that type of shy virgin boy that is good as the first sharing partner for your MILF wife.

But yeah, for sharing, I'd wait until chapter 3 becomes available. It is already available on patreon, but no hero here on F95 yet

Have you played chapter 3? Does it continue the same lines and quality as far as you know?

 

[SinisterPortal]

I mostly disagree with what you guys have said about WoD. I am a big sharing/swinging fan and was reluctant about it in the beginning, but he has not done anything that is a red flag to me. Neil is a critical part of the story, so long as I can keep him away from Sarah, I'm fine if he's in the game. He is an important part for the cheating paths, he can't 'go away'. The gym couple look like a perfect opportunity for them to do some swinging. I don't like Erik, so I'm keeping him away also. Also the teasing with Louis has been fun.

I mean compared to some other similar games that came out at the sametime, I think it's doing better.

for me the very situation that the husband has to put up with another guy hitting on his wife is humiliating. And it doesn't matter if the husband knows it or not - if he doesn't know - that means his wife is not honest with him - "not telling" is also part of NTR. On the other hand, if he knows but the dev doesn't give an opportunity to do something about it and forces us to rely on the wife's marital obedience - this is also humiliating and makes the husband look passive, cuckish. I understand that the problem is that the NTS is not the primary route so the dev will not change stuff much for us. But my backlog is full of great sharing games, I don't see a reason to waste time on a game that is made primary for a different audience (cucks).

Have you played chapter 3? Does it continue the same lines and quality as far as you know?

haven't

 

[reidanota]

I mostly disagree with what you guys have said about WoD. I am a big sharing/swinging fan and was reluctant about it in the beginning, but he has not done anything that is a red flag to me. Neil is a critical part of the story, so long as I can keep him away from Sarah, I'm fine if he's in the game. He is an important part for the cheating paths, he can't 'go away'. The gym couple look like a perfect opportunity for them to do some swinging. I don't like Erik, so I'm keeping him away also. Also the teasing with Louis has been fun.

I may sound as not picky, but tend to enjoy scenes with unsavoury characters as long as there's a strong "utilitarian" justification (examples, Kat's boss and the former mayor in Deliverance). Boss is like a challenge between Kat and Wayne, mayor is the typical ugly bastard but I like the whorish vibe of seducing him for information. Kat can also tell some hot stories of her past instead of the sex, which are also pretty cool and make me hesitate there, but to stay on topic, I'd rather we could deal with those characters in WoD, in a way that made it score points for the couple and not for Erik or Neil, instead of simply ignoring them. What I wouldn't like is letting a cocky bull score just for the scene. There's a "built-in" turnoff for me, when sex comes as a "conquest" of the other guy, so I don't think I'd even enjoy those scenes, unless specific dialogue and proper context made them feel like it's the FMC and MMC taking advantage of those guys, not the other way around.

 

[blkcrow20]

for me the very situation that the husband has to put up with another guy hitting on his wife is humiliating. And it doesn't matter if the husband knows it or not - if he doesn't know - that means his wife is not honest with him - "not telling" is also part of NTR. On the other hand, if he knows but the dev doesn't give an opportunity to do something about it and forces us to rely on the wife's marital obedience - this is also humiliating and makes the husband look passive, cuckish. I understand that the problem is that the NTS is not the primary route so the dev will not change stuff much for us. But my backlog is full of great sharing games, I don't see a reason to waste time on a game that is made primary for a different audience (cucks).


haven't

For me, that is not humiliation. And nothing has felt cuckish to me on my playthrough and again, I'm a big opponent of cucks and humiliation. Also there is no 'primary' route. There are 4 routes which Fable has clearly stated.

 

[reidanota]

For me, that is not humiliation. And nothing has felt cuckish to me on my playthrough and again, I'm a big opponent of cucks and humiliation. Also there is no 'primary' route. There are 4 routes which Fable has clearly stated.

It seems like Neil and maybe Erik are important characters for the other routes, but not essential for the sharing route, as some people say they avoid them altogether. That's fine, but how hard would it be to tone their lines down, or do away with their advances, if you're not on a cuckold or cheating route? More than a variable check and writing a bit of new text? Ideally, an extra render or two to account for the conversations and/or different attitude going into the scene - the sex itself could play the same, in all its animalistic glory, with a different text if the FMC does much talking or thinking.

Although it seems to me like the lack of conversation between MMC and FMC is the real handicap on the sharing route. If they talked about Neil and Erik, made their attitude clear about them and provided a context to endure their advances, they might fit in the sharing route. As is (and re-stating that I haven't played the game yet) it seems like they're the kind of creeps that you often find in your average "NTS" game, not in proper, "educated" sharing games

 

[blkcrow20]

Neil is definitely the 'creepy boss' trope found in so many of these types of games. Always perfect for NTR routes. lol Erik could be the BBC trope, we need to see more before we know for sure.

 

[redoubt27]

It seems like Neil and maybe Erik are important characters for the other routes, but not essential for the sharing route, as some people say they avoid them altogether. That's fine, but how hard would it be to tone their lines down, or do away with their advances, if you're not on a cuckold or cheating route? More than a variable check and writing a bit of new text? Ideally, an extra render or two to account for the conversations and/or different attitude going into the scene - the sex itself could play the same, in all its animalistic glory, with a different text if the FMC does much talking or thinking.

Although it seems to me like the lack of conversation between MMC and FMC is the real handicap on the sharing route. If they talked about Neil and Erik, made their attitude clear about them and provided a context to endure their advances, they might fit in the sharing route. As is (and re-stating that I haven't played the game yet) it seems like they're the kind of creeps that you often find in your average "NTS" game, not in proper, "educated" sharing games

It's understandable why some are worried; PTSD from similar plots.
Fable giving the reader control over the wife is what's making WoD the exception to the "norm".
Neil is obviously a key part of the story. Don't really have a problem with the interactions with Sarah, because I control her reactions...
Annoying, yes. Do I want to bury him in the swamp, yes. But, it's tolerable.
Erik is just the token BBC for cheating/NTR and hotwife/cuckold NTS.

I do agree, I'd prefer Alex & Sarah talk... but even if they do, they still won't be aware of Neil's (or Eva's) intent, yet.
The only thing Alex & Sarah talking would open up for "sharing", is Neil hooking up with Sarah as part of the couple's game, rather than Sarah cheating. And that can be delayed...for now...until Alex & Sarah figure things out individually...
The more I think about it...I'm a little more ok with what Fable is doing, because knowing what we know as the reader, I still wouldn't share Sarah with Neil... However, I would let her lead him on and on, tease, flirt, but never letting Neil get what he wants.
Can't do that right now, because the conversations are cheating/NTR rather than couple exploring their desires or playing a game...

The thing that feels "wrong" about the sharing, is that the story structure makes it feel like Neil and Eva are "winning", instead of the couple really exploring, deciding desires for themselves. But, the reader has full control, and it's really our intent, not Neil and Eva's deciding for the couple.
Personally, the story structure makes me want to push back against the sharing because of Neil and Eva's influence/manipulation, rather than give into the "sharing", and that's why the "sharing" doesn't feel as good as it could right now... It's getting better though, slowly, and that's fine. Most VNs rush to the first sex with another dude. I'm wanting this one to rush to the couple having an open discussion...

I really, really like WoD, it's really good.
Just have to keep the irrational negative thoughts at bay...
Because Fable has done a great job so far.

 

[SinisterPortal]

Also there is no 'primary' route. There are 4 routes which Fable has clearly stated.

I mean, you yourself admitted that the reason Neil and Eric are central characters in the story is because of the NTR route. So the NTR route dictates central characters for other routes, and they are not even different on them. This is why I said the NTR is primary.

Personally, the story structure makes me want to push back against the sharing because of Neil and Eva's influence/manipulation, rather than give into the "sharing", and that's why the "sharing" doesn't feel as good as it could right now...

that's what I felt as well and that's the reason I closed the game. It started with a wrong vibe. And judging by your comments, this vibe hasn't faded away in later chapters?

I really, really like WoD, it's really good.

Since we only discussed the negatives so far, could you elaborate on what is good there exactly?

 

[larsalexanderson]

Neil is the only character I dislike and that seems by design. Erik, in my playthrough, is pretty chill.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

for me the very situation that the husband has to put up with another guy hitting on his wife is humiliating. And it doesn't matter if the husband knows it or not - if he doesn't know - that means his wife is not honest with him - "not telling" is also part of NTR.

If you're referring to the boss though, he doesn't have to put up with it. Also Sarah can cut him out directly and he becomes a non-issue (other than us the viewer seeing his scenes with abigail and whatnot)

I mean, you yourself admitted that the reason Neil and Eric are central characters in the story is because of the NTR route. So the NTR route dictates central characters for other routes, and they are not even different on them. This is why I said the NTR is primary.

Mostly agree with this - for a game professing to be split it sure does spend a lot of time on potential "avenues for deception"

Like many others on that thread and this thread have smartly said: There's no reason why they shouldn't be just talking to each other about all this stuff.

cue every garbage ntr game: "bUt i cOulDnt pOsSiBly tEll mY bOyfrIeNd thAt!"

Since we only discussed the negatives so far, could you elaborate on what is good there exactly?

Sure, I can give my own (it's one of the few maybe 4-5 games i sub)

Attractive but realistic models, no cartoon boobs or furry stuff.
Decent non-ai animations by daz standards.
Focus on an actual adult couple (i have zero interest in incest/muh roommate/muh landlord stuff myself)
Stats system for each character's relationships enabling either half of the couple to push characters away or bring them closer.

 

[Morana]

I think the "no communication" thing is a result of the dual protagonists. You, the player, know where you're going to steer both of them. You even get the slimy boss POV so you know all about his plans and can easily ruin them, even though it would count as metagaming in an RPG. Seriously, I hate NTR tropes but Neil has been a pushover if you're not interested in him. Spoiler example, he ropes the wife into a photoshoot hoping to get some saucy pictures. You can have the husband accompany her for his own enjoyment, go as far as you want and finally just tell the photographer you'd like the riskier material to stay private. And despite supposedly being Neil's associate he's a professional and does exactly that.

He's in the game to give the protagonists an initial nudge into non-monogamy, instead of the "wife caught me watching MMF porn" classic or whatever. It also gives you the narration "cheat code" to see what potential love interests/rivals think. In my opinion the game so far is really promising, I've been able to pick the choice I wanted every time. And finally, if you're here arguing about it without even having played it, the fuck are you doing. Second-hand accounts about the supposed routes won't give you the real picture.

 

[redoubt27]

I mean, you yourself admitted that the reason Neil and Eric are central characters in the story is because of the NTR route. So the NTR route dictates central characters for other routes, and they are not even different on them. This is why I said the NTR is primary.


that's what I felt as well and that's the reason I closed the game. It started with a wrong vibe. And judging by your comments, this vibe hasn't faded away in later chapters?


Since we only discussed the negatives so far, could you elaborate on what is good there exactly?

As I said, my only complaint is that Sarah & Alex haven't had "the talk", yet...
And while I have my preferences, irritations about Neil, Sarah doesn't do anything I don't want her to do.
I (the reader) know what's going on. But putting myself in Sarah and Alex's shoes, they don't. And with that perspective, I haven't allowed Sarah to do anything that she should confess or need to hide from Alex. Alex knows Neil is a flirt, and Sarah hasn't allowed him to cross any lines, she keeps a professional distance.
The good:
- Reader controls both Alex & Sarah. They don't do anything without reader approval.
- Sarah is hot.
- Alex is going to be allowed to have fun, too. And Sarah is so far on board.
- Despite my irritation with Neil, the story is good, and I'm looking forward to see how it plays out with Eva. I'm hoping to see Neil's plan blow up in his face...
- There are two couples now that Alex & Sarah can engage with... Their friends/neighbors and a couple they meet at the gym. They're becoming the main characters on the sharing path...
- The intern is going to be fun. And there are hints Sarah may have a little cuckquean in her...
- Sarah doing the photo shoot. The photographer honoring Sarah's request not to send the sexy photos to Neil was a huge plus... Neil isn't an all powerful mustache twirling villain who can control, manipulate everyone against the couple's desires...

Overall, the story is still developing, simmering. It hasn't reached a rolling boil, yet...
I'd recommend to you, don't give up on it just yet.
By all means, play other VNs, set WoD aside, let it cook some more.
I have a feeling the story will eventually pan out on the sharing paths and be more tolerable.
And if it doesn't, well, there's likely to be comments in this thread about it...

 

[SinisterPortal]

He's in the game to give the protagonists an initial nudge into non-monogamy, instead of the "wife caught me watching MMF porn" classic or whatever.

Disagree that this is the classic trope in western NTS. It is common Japanese NTS, while in western games the standard trope is exactly a pair of a slutty woman (usually a friend of the wife) and an alpha man ("professional bull"/boss/bbc/powerful/rich) that corrupt our couple into cuckolding. Sometimes it's only the alpha man or only the slutty friend. And yeah, usually this is a red flag of a cuckold game, but not always (e.g. SoA and MNGF, tho they only have the "slutty female friend" part).

The only western game that I played that had this "caught watching cuck porn" trope is Paradise City, and yet it also has the professional bull part.

 

[SinisterPortal]

replaying it now, apparently the cuck website trope is here too

 

[Morana]

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You're right, those are the big ones. Maybe also the "husband has a secret fetish and either directly tells or just influences his partner". In any case, starting out married apparently severely limits variety (because why else would it only come up now). I prefer open-minded girlfriend games that don't have the usual rival/jealousy BS. We need more Devons!

 

[Edhinor]

What are your thoughts on "My True Desire"? I started playing it today, seeing the good reviews, and very shortly had to stop it. First, that scene in the park, where the GF is talking to a guy and he is telling her to "have fun" and that "your BF doesn't need to know" and she seems to go along with it, then, she is off to a party that of course the MC can't join, and what follows is all through phone so.... this is giving me major cucking-disguised-as-sharing vibes.

Why is it so difficult to have the GF shut down guys who approach her to cheat?
Why is it so difficult to have the BF and GF communicate about their wants and needs?
Why is it so difficult to have the BF and GF both participate in the action?
Why is it that they always have to have the MMC feeling ashamed of what he wants, not talking about it to the FMC, and then actively pushing her towards other men? how is that NTS and not NTR? it has all the feelings of shame, humiliation (even if it is self imposed), cheating....

So am I wrong on this? should I stick with it and give it a chance or is my first impression right and this is mostly NTR with a small dose of the BF pushing her to do it so it technically can't be called cheating?

 

[reidanota]

Deliverance and Exciting Games, if I'm not mistaken, both mention the couple having had a wild side in the past, sharing is something of a rekindling of that. Sounds like a much better trope than "corruption by her best friend" or "husband watches cuckold porn".

Why is it so difficult to have the GF shut down guys who approach her to cheat?
Why is it so difficult to have the BF and GF communicate about their wants and needs?
Why is it so difficult to have the BF and GF both participate in the action?
Why is it that they always have to have the MMC feeling ashamed of what he wants, not talking about it to the FMC, and then actively pushing her towards other men? how is that NTS and not NTR? it has all the feelings of shame, humiliation (even if it is self imposed), cheating....

I'd risk, as a short answer, that authors who write in those cheaty gf/beta MC types, like them. Don't have an answer as to WHY, but it seems like more authors are motivated to write sharing stories because of their own interest in cuckoldry, than those that simply enjoy the kinky side of sharing, and aren't into humiliation.

 

[HoM11]

So am I wrong on this? should I stick with it and give it a chance

In short: you are and you should.

 

[SinisterPortal]

You're right, those are the big ones. Maybe also the "husband has a secret fetish and either directly tells or just influences his partner". In any case, starting out married apparently severely limits variety (because why else would it only come up now). I prefer open-minded girlfriend games that don't have the usual rival/jealousy BS. We need more Devons!

Moonripple had the nicest one so far in my experience - Suzie tries to charm the cop to avoid a fine and Anon gets excited seeing it. Similar approach in Harmony Haven - the husband has to get excited about the lecherous gaze of the virgin gardener boy at his wife to later start getting interested in it, reading websites and finally confess to her. I like it better than corruption by a third party. I don't like 'one big confession' tho, it's better how it was done by Moonripple's dev - the MC slowly introduces her to it, asking her to do playful things. Eventually she understands it without the need of explicit confession. Damn, it felt so natural, without unnecessary drama. Why exploring your kinks has to be drama and a psychological combat against yourself? A confident man should have no problem with admitting that sharing turns him on if it really does

 

[redoubt27]

replaying it now, apparently the cuck website trope is here too View attachment 5446466

But that's actually a good one...
And don't ignore the context...
Alex hasn't been watching cuckold porn; he looked it up after seeing the friends/neighbors...
And the next couple of sentences, Sarah is wondering if Alex is happy, or looking for something more.
This is one of several things that both of them keep not talking about...

In the story, they are both figuring things out for themselves first, or with Eva, when they should just talk...
In the most recent update, Alex and Sarah are starting to talk more after the photo shoot, figure out boundaries, likes, dislikes.
Sarah has not pushed the cuckold thing, at all on the sharing route...
Make the "correct" choices, she ALWAYS checks with Alex first.