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[CursedByAll]

nts goes under 'swinging' usually on f95

But then a lot of "nts" games don't have swinging...which just leads to two groups of the disappointed...

 

[SinisterPortal]

But then a lot of "nts" games don't have swinging...which just leads to two groups of the disappointed...

There's actually very few games with actual swinging, which is sad

 

[SinisterPortal]

My run of bad luck with sharing/swinging games keeps growing. Another recent game added to my 'Do Not Play' list. Now the dev of Angst says the choices we get will be within an 'event', not whether the event happens. So, no choices as to who she gets together with. And as I pointed out in my previous post, definitely is leaning towards a cuck game.

Nothing in the quotes you posted signals that this is going to be a cuckold game to me. I see many people are over-thinking when it comes to this game, for some reason. Obviously it's not a swinging game, Miles will unlikely to have fun with anyone but Claire and the whole game is obviously more focused on emotional, not sexual (not voyeuristic) aspect of hotwifing. It also takes a bit more realistic approach, trying to tell a more or less believable story, which is nice.

I have a feeling that there will even be a 'teasing' path where nothing 'serious' happens between Claire and Sam. I'm not sure and don't want to ask the dev as it might spoil the story for me. Tho the intro scene suggests otherwise... Anyway, the dev said that you get to choose what exactly happens between Claire and Sam during events. We could even choose if they kiss or not. So it makes sense to expect that more sexual actions will also be optional.

 

[blkcrow20]

Nothing in the quotes you posted signals that this is going to be a cuckold game to me. I see many people are over-thinking when it comes to this game, for some reason. Obviously it's not a swinging game, Miles will unlikely to have fun with anyone but Claire and the whole game is obviously more focused on emotional, not sexual (not voyeuristic) aspect of hotwifing. It also takes a bit more realistic approach, trying to tell a more or less believable story, which is nice.

I have a feeling that there will even be a 'teasing' path where nothing 'serious' happens between Claire and Sam. I'm not sure and don't want to ask the dev as it might spoil the story for me. Tho the intro scene suggests otherwise... Anyway, the dev said that you get to choose what exactly happens between Claire and Sam during events. We could even choose if they kiss or not. So it makes sense to expect that more sexual actions will also be optional.

Agree to disagree. What she said sounds cuckish. Borderline humiliating. Yes, choices during the events but not who she can be with. I much prefer when we have a say over who she does things with. I don't like having potential partners forced on me.

Again, as I said, not a game for me.

 

[dexterousgecko]

I'm not sure how you could say that Angst isn't leaning towards cucking when the very first scene is Miles sitting in a literal cuck chair...

that combined with everything else, I mean, if it talks like a cuck and walks like a cuck...

 

[SinisterPortal]

Again, as I said, not a game for me.

That's totally fine and I also think so, judging by your reactions.

Regarding the quotes, out of context I don't see anything cuckish or humiliating in them. I haven't played this update myself as I'm not going to download each update for 5min of story - I'll wait at least till the next update is released (the dev said it will be much bigger than the previous ones). But with update policy like in this game I'm going to download it and play only on roughly every 3rd update or even rarer. Anyway, these phrases can be humiliating in a certain context (well, even short 'yes' can be humiliating in a proper context), but I'm certain that this was said as part of teasing and if so then this is perfectly fine with me.

I'm not sure how you could say that Angst isn't leaning towards cucking when the very first scene is Miles sitting in a literal cuck chair...

It seems we have a different vision of cuckold fetish. For me it's all about the wife being 'cold' to the MC and 'warm' to the bulls. Looking at your wife doing it with another man is not necessary cuckolding, it falls into 'hotwifing' for me, unless there are the negative emotional aspects.

If for you cuckolding is anything where wife has sex while husband watches then we definitely view it differently.

 

[derrica1]

It would be so much better though, if they just stopped using Japanese terms, and went to the proper English terms instead. It is an English language site after all, based nowhere near Japan.....

While you kind of have a point the issue it is a super popular term. To the extent that many games, even western ones, use it in the name itself so the ship has likely already sailed on that argument.

But then a lot of "nts" games don't have swinging...which just leads to two groups of the disappointed...

Yeah swinging is not a perfect term though honestly nts has it's issues as well(took way too long for me to learn which is which)
It doesn't feel like any solution is perfect but I'd lean towards adding NTS imo.

 

[reidanota]

Regarding Angst, a game I've "provocatively" not even looked at, I stand by my gut feeling that the author didn't pick the title by accident. Since you guys would argue there are as many definitions of "angst" as there are different people talking using it here are a few.



And since we're talking about an actual German word, not an origially english term:



Sorry, had to. Unless the author does NOT mean the title to be any indication of what the game is about, I'd say it's going to focus on the "less lighthearted side of" sharing/swinging/cuckoldry. I'm frankly not even curious enough to go there with all the guardrails in place.

 

[SinisterPortal]

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fyi this is what the dev responded:

 

[reidanota]

fyi this is what the dev responded:
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Thank you vm for sharing. I know I'm stubborn, but don't you think that the author is contradicting their own overview, as well?

I'm not positing that there can't be both love and insecurity. It's the focus that isn't exactly my own. But I won't be downplaying the game, honestly just posted the previous in reaction to crow's. I'll be reading your posts on it And wait for the ending. If the couple go through a rough time but that "insecurity" doesn't come off as a fundamental trait of character, that is, they overcome it and there's real character progression, and it's not one-sided (as in the MMC being the insecure guy all the time) and the end game has a "proper stag/vixen" dynamic, then, I'll play it. I prefer not to FAFO.

 

[blkcrow20]

That's totally fine and I also think so, judging by your reactions.

Regarding the quotes, out of context I don't see anything cuckish or humiliating in them. I haven't played this update myself as I'm not going to download each update for 5min of story - I'll wait at least till the next update is released (the dev said it will be much bigger than the previous ones). But with update policy like in this game I'm going to download it and play only on roughly every 3rd update or even rarer. Anyway, these phrases can be humiliating in a certain context (well, even short 'yes' can be humiliating in a proper context), but I'm certain that this was said as part of teasing and if so then this is perfectly fine with me.



It seems we have a different vision of cuckold fetish. For me it's all about the wife being 'cold' to the MC and 'warm' to the bulls. Looking at your wife doing it with another man is not necessary cuckolding, it falls into 'hotwifing' for me, unless there are the negative emotional aspects.

If for you cuckolding is anything where wife has sex while husband watches then we definitely view it differently.

I think it's more a matter if he only watches and doesn't participate or he watches sometimes but participates most of the time. I tend to think of a cuck as one that only watches and does not join in. Not something I would do. MC needs to be active in the his wife's activities.

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah I don't view that as being a cuck either personally. Unless the wife was trying to humiliate him by tell him all he can do is watch and jerk off or something like that. Cause there are times I want to join in and other times I would rather just watch it all depends on the scene for me. I don't even like my MC sleeping with other women than his wife on my main save in sharing games. But I do see how it would be for others it's kind of borderline or a grey area id say for me of being one cause it's almost there it all depends on the context and how the scene plays out and how everyone acts for me.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That's totally fine and I also think so, judging by your reactions.

Regarding the quotes, out of context I don't see anything cuckish or humiliating in them. I haven't played this update myself as I'm not going to download each update for 5min of story - I'll wait at least till the next update is released (the dev said it will be much bigger than the previous ones). But with update policy like in this game I'm going to download it and play only on roughly every 3rd update or even rarer. Anyway, these phrases can be humiliating in a certain context (well, even short 'yes' can be humiliating in a proper context), but I'm certain that this was said as part of teasing and if so then this is perfectly fine with me.



It seems we have a different vision of cuckold fetish. For me it's all about the wife being 'cold' to the MC and 'warm' to the bulls. Looking at your wife doing it with another man is not necessary cuckolding, it falls into 'hotwifing' for me, unless there are the negative emotional aspects.

If for you cuckolding is anything where wife has sex while husband watches then we definitely view it differently.

I think it's more a matter if he only watches and doesn't participate or he watches sometimes but participates most of the time. I tend to think of a cuck as one that only watches and does not join in. Not something I would do. MC needs to be active in the his wife's activities.

Yea I'd come down more with sinister here. Even tho full on swaps are my favorite, in my own head watching a hotwife fucking wouldnt necessarily be cuckoldry, it could be, just depends on context and if there's humiliation etc, it's the tone, I know it when I see it.

But this is part of why I was trying to move away from pejorative labels like 'cuck game' in my last page post. Terms that obviously have wiggle room depending who you talk to here aren't terrible useful to inform people who haven't played these games. Saying things like "he just watches sex and doesnt participate" - no one can debate a sentence like that, there's no value judgement, and a player who likes that stuff will know to try the game, and vice versa can avoid.

 

[reidanota]

Yea I'd come down more with sinister here. Even tho full on swaps are my favorite, in my own head watching a hotwife fucking wouldnt necessarily be cuckoldry, it could be, just depends on context and if there's humiliation etc, it's the tone, I know it when I see it.

But this is part of why I was trying to move away from pejorative labels like 'cuck game' in my last page post. Terms that obviously have wiggle room depending who you talk to here aren't terrible useful to inform people who haven't played these games. Saying things like "he just watches sex and doesnt participate" - no one can debate a sentence like that, there's no value judgement, and a player who likes that stuff will know to try the game, and vice versa can avoid.

After my initial "enthusiasm" with "hotwife games" (from playing the abandoned The Hotwife) I realised that a likely majority of those do tend towards cuckoldry, more or less. I'd love it if someone would point out those where we have at least one path where there isn't even a suggestion of free use, and where the bulls are respectful and restrained - not restrained in the sense that they don't give your wife what she wants, but that they mostly respond to her, go as hard as she tells them to, but don't dominate.

 

[blkcrow20]

Yea I'd come down more with sinister here. Even tho full on swaps are my favorite, in my own head watching a hotwife fucking wouldnt necessarily be cuckoldry, it could be, just depends on context and if there's humiliation etc, it's the tone, I know it when I see it.

But this is part of why I was trying to move away from pejorative labels like 'cuck game' in my last page post. Terms that obviously have wiggle room depending who you talk to here aren't terrible useful to inform people who haven't played these games. Saying things like "he just watches sex and doesnt participate" - no one can debate a sentence like that, there's no value judgement, and a player who likes that stuff will know to try the game, and vice versa can avoid.

That's why I was saying just the fact that he watches doesn't make it so, but if all he ever does is watch, then yeah, that leans to cuck.

 

[SinisterPortal]

Thank you vm for sharing. I know I'm stubborn, but don't you think that the author is contradicting their own overview, as well?
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I don't think it's a contradiction, looks more like he is describing it in softer terms than in the overview. The dev is maybe not aware of the PTSD that players have in the genre So he is not careful with words here.

 

[CursedByAll]

Even tho full on swaps are my favorite, in my own head watching a hotwife fucking wouldnt necessarily be cuckoldry, it could be, just depends on context and if there's humiliation etc, it's the tone, I know it when I see it.

things like "he just watches sex and doesnt participate"

It is definitely the tone taken in the dialogue that is the prime definition for me, but it is also the physical action of the MC placing himself in a subservient role, not as an active participant. Obvious physical clues, like the cuck chair, sph, voyeur positions, constant hj-only "rewards" or nothing at all without cheating.
Constant gameplay that is only about her actions, her decisions, everything about her. Her this, her that...while MC is "along for the ride", a literal taxi-driver to the next fuck she has, him just being a total sub. MC as an event-planner, never an event-participant.
But yeah, the dialogue surrounding any "action" is key, especially any that places MC lower on the rung somehow than potential or active lovers, references to "bulls" is often enough.

If she needs a bull, she doesn't need me, and I ain't playing, "bitch".....it's the curb for her, and the bin for that game...


Yet, to be fair, if that same game was a Fem-protag setup, I would play it as long as I never saw or heard of a "him" as a partner/husband, because "he" would be a non-entity and therefore irrelevant to the story. It would be a slut-game, not a cuck-game then.

But I wouldn't even discuss those here really, unless asked, because this is a "sharing" thread, and for mine, sharing and cucking really are two separate things. That why Netorase (NTS) is such a shitty tag....
Its the games where I never even have to question the idea of cucking that appeal to me, the ones that focus on the fun, not the angst....if I have to endure anything other than fun, I got somewhere else to be....life is way too short for anything else....and my backlog still grows longer each day, so "fuck the cucks" I say....(sorry to those who enjoy it)

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Its the games where I never even have to question the idea of cucking that appeal to me, the ones that focus on the fun, not the angst....if I have to endure anything other than fun, I got somewhere else to be....life is way too short for anything else....and my backlog still grows longer each day, so "fuck the cucks" I say....(sorry to those who enjoy it)

Bluntly, this thread is for them too.

My first choice is partner swapping, then second choice is watching sharing in person, then all the other stuff. But I never wanted this thread to be exclusionary - the subset of western games with ANY of these themes is too small to put up walls.


And understand completely the context in Angst may well be more that style, I dont debate that; but the tone in these last few pages has taken on a different energy.

 

[CursedByAll]

Bluntly, this thread is for them too.

My first choice is partner swapping, then second choice is watching sharing in person, then all the other stuff. But I never wanted this thread to be exclusionary - the subset of western games with ANY of these themes is too small to put up walls.

Yes, I know it is for all who enjoy sharing, of any sort. And I am fine with anyone enjoying whatever floats their boat. Whatever it is, at all...
It was just me I was talking about.
I already apologised for expressing it immediately, but its hard to be direct without the possibility of offense, without being blunt.

Cucking is a subjective experience for all of us, and it has many degrees, just like everything.
My view is extreme, I fully acknowledge that any time. But my view is just as relative as anyone else's....even those at the other end, who actively enjoy it. I see that here too...

So...no offense meant.....sorry.....ok?

 

[SinisterPortal]

the ones that focus on the fun, not the angst....

Hmm, I actually dislike games where the MC is not jealous, it starts to remind more like pimp-slut kind of relationship. And especially when the MC is totally okay with the FMC doing whatever with others. Like, in Paradise City there is this "dominant NTS" path that I personally called "the crazy pimp path" - on the first day on the island the MC lets a guy they just met and 3 random passerbys fuck his wife on the beach in this crazy gangbang (he participates too). There was no humiliation to the MC, no signs of his sexual weakness or anything, and indeed the MC is rather dominant. But it was so dirty that I immediately disliked it.
Like, despite he participates, the fact that he wants his wife to get gangbanged is humiliating on itself.