I look at AI as a burgeoning art form, that will eventually sort out these bugs, much like the progression from hand-drawn to original HS and early DAZ/Blender. It will eventually eclipse those others. I see some devs have now got to the point of creating life-like almost deep-fake scenes
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This "progression" you speak of isn't progression. These AI devs are not pouring hard work and long hours into making AI games, and the artstyle aren't even theirs to begin with.
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Personally I will only give non AI phone games a try and see if I like it enough to stay or drop it. Tho im also not a big fan of AI games to begin with I like Moonripple Lake but alot of these other AI games look to similar in the design of the characters to Moonripple Lake for me want to hit the download button. I do intent to force myself to try a few since ive heard some positive things about some like MilaAI. But generally if im going to play an AI game I prefer it to look more like anime than the style of Moonripple Lake.
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He's talking about some, a few, devs doing that level of work.
Most, we'd all probably agree, are just pushing out variant remakes...
Just have to sort through the BS and find the good ones.
It's a pain in the ass, but I think already, based on my trash to like/favorites folders, already running about 3 to 1 trash to "good", even for "normal" VNs.
And that's just the ones I bookmarked and tried...
I think the ratio is probably 10+ to 1 on ones I've even bookmarked to try (not even counting the ones I pass that don't have tags that interest me).
Lots of "garbage" out there.
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While I can't speak for everyone, in order to create a good consistent game with AI, it DOES take hard work and long hours. People are under the impression that AI does everything for you and requires very little work, while it does in fact take more work than Daz3D for example to set up scenes.
I'm talking about traditional Visual Novel style games. My New Girlfriend / Moonripple Lake as an example. I work together with them and we share a lot of tips and tricks with each other. The best way to visualize what I mean is the following:
With Daz3D, or HoneySelect, you have 100% control of what you want to create. There's no randomness involved at all. (The circle representing what you want to create
With AI, you get the following:
With the circle representing what you want to create, but the box showing all the possibilities AI will create. You can only do so much with prompting in order to reduce the size of the box, in order to get it really close to what you want, you need to use a lot of techniques which a lot of AI devs don't even know about, such as composing scenes in Photoshop, rendering the part in, and repeat that multiple times over and over. In the end, it'll be close, but it'll never be 1-1 with what you want to create due to the randomness involved.
I personally don't like these AI "Phone" games, as from a development perspective, they seem... lazy. A lot of those pictures are just one-off generations, with no coherent visual consistency that needs to be met at all times. While in a Visual novel, you do need that visual consistency. It's what sets the "greats" apart from the slop.
Speaking of phone games as we were......
Has anyone seen a game where the MC/FMC have a speeddial function on their phones that ping the partner with a location and immediately start recording a video call?
I put this question here because of the sharing content...
Has anyone seen a game where the MC/FMC have a speeddial function on their phones that ping the partner with a location and immediately start recording a video call?
I put this question here because of the sharing content...
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None come to mind...
just fyi...In case anyone wants to give a whirl, given the lack of recent sharing VNs.
Haven't played it yet, won't get to it any time soon, but this showed up in updates tagged with swinging...
VN - Ren'Py - You Only Die TWICE [v0.1] [Grievion] | F95zone | Adult Games | Comics | Mods | Cheats
Intro, the writer has worked on Perfect Housewife (not one of my favorites, but at least some positive indication).
I played the demo version, and it does have good writing evoking some tension skillfully, though to that point it was hard to judge if it was more NTS/NTR. I guess that will depend on choices made, all things being equal, which is all we can hope for lately it seems. The setup is good though in the demo, haven't played the 0.1 release yet.
Already on the list bub
I've talked to Griev some behind the scenes and my impression is he's firmly in the sharing camp - I gave some suggestions on earlier versions. I think good things will come of that game if he keeps at it.
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I can't tell from the previews but is there a variety boob sizes or are they all BIG?Already on the list bub
I've talked to Griev some behind the scenes and my impression is he's firmly in the sharing camp - I gave some suggestions on earlier versions. I think good things will come of that game if he keeps at it.
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I could never get into Perfect Housewife. I still have it downloaded and slowly play it from time to time. But not something I can really get into tbh , mostly cause of the MC and his friend being an old dude. The whole dynamic between the wife and his friend weirds me too much to play it in 1 go. I have to take breaks. I did ctrl skip through it tho and it does seem like it will get better after some time.
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wow, 1 mistake in 900 years...Already on the list bub
Thanks Pr0GamerJohnny, missed that one by a few hours...
I checked the list earlier and noticed it wasn't there.
Got distracted by shiny objects, and came back to post.
Have to remember to check the list twice...
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That I couldn't tell you - as I was mostly assisting with script and didnt see images.
If we are talking about WoD, the answer is yes to variety, though there are no "tiny titties". At this point, FMC is the largest, but they are not balloons by a long shot.
I've been trying to find a game, I think it was a VN. The MC has a date with a busty, older, and taller woman. The date is at a movie theater and it features the woman riding the guy during a movie screening. The guy who hooked up the MC was maybe their cousin, some shady character, maybe a demon? I played it years ago, at most 4 years ago.
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Oh wow! I made the list!
I will definitely try to make Westerners proud! ha!
I will definitely try to make Westerners proud! ha!
High quality thread. Much obliged OP. Thank You.
I don't think I've played that one. You could try searching for it, going by date with the older games at the end of the list, and work your way forward. Filter out things like Japanese games and real porn and engines that you know it doesn't use (HTML for example) and if its still on the site, it should be easier. (if its tags are useful)
Pr0GamerJohnny I am happy to see that you enjoyed my game so far. Hopefully you will enjoy the future updates as much as I enjoy creating them !!!