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[blkcrow20]

NTR lovers are probably enthusiastic about this latest update. Turned a swinging scene into hard NTR, with all the more sting to it because it was "consensual" (imho John was manipulated and wasn't really into it) and there wasn't much the MC could have done, even if there were choices (which there aren't) except call quits and still come out as a loser.

Paul is portrayed as a winner, John as a loser, Claire as the bitch who of course falls for the winner and even Marie, who seems to know better, plays along and further humiliates John by suggesting he needs taking care of. I'm fundamentally at odds with this view of the world.

Yeah, all the more reason for me not to even bother with this game anymore. It's worth spending any time on it.

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah, all the more reason for me not to even bother with this game anymore. It's worth spending any time on it.

Thankfully the Love path hasn't turned into NTR yet ( at least I hope not) so that is still worth while for me . + 2 sisters fooling around with each other was kind of hot. but yeah I had a feeling I wasn't gonna like the NTR / NTS paths moving forward , I always had a feeling it was gonna be kind of forced in away like what I read about the update.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

You're right, this update especially seems to have gone completely off the rails. The highwater mark of the current version is when Claire shares John with Zoey. Up to that point the game had all the right notes.

The previous update was also dubbed a NTR update, but still had a different feel, probably from the story leading up to it giving you a hint that things might go a different way. Now after this episode, which was pure negativity, I feel the way the previous one ended with much more ambiguity. Maybe Claire was already condescending with John after her scene with Damien, telling him that he was all that mattered and shit. And on this one John is portrayed as a cuck of the kind that doesn't really enjoy being cucked but doesn't have it in him to do anything about it. This is probably the furthest I've gone into true NTR (and mind it, I play with URM and "trueNTR" was false, so I felt kinda reassured) and hated it.

Can't give the game another look until a hypothetical sharing path is written in, and even then, I'm currently failing to see how it can go any better unless John and Claire are both written as completely different characters. Claire, one of the best models ever, ruined. It's the same feeling I get from MISW - she can say whatever, but the undertone is that she manipulates the MC and doesn't give a fuck about him.

I guess I'll be the odd man out here - that's fine, everyone interprets things differently.

For me the current update (yesterday) didn't feel particularly cuckish or bad, felt more like a standard swinging event. Granted, I would have enjoyed it more if they were all in the same room for the whole thing, but it wasn't the end of the world. Most of my complaints were it was too short and some of the animations and renders were kinda janky.

 

[wmrxd]

Was it really that bad? I haven't played it yet, I haven't had time, I'm even scared to play it, what was so bad about it?

 

[reidanota]

For me the current update (yesterday) didn't feel particularly cuckish or bad, felt more like a standard swinging event.

Was it really that bad? I haven't played it yet, I haven't had time, I'm even scared to play it, what was so bad about it?

Don't have direct swinging experience to draw from, but I've played many other games that portrayed it without any of the winner/loser bullshit. There's also no connection between Claire and John AT ALL. No teasing, no eye contact, no asking if it's okay (being their first experience), Claire is 100% focused on Paul, teases Paul - not John - and the minute Paul takes charge it's like a revelation to her, his dominance is all she's focused on. There was no sharing. John is just there, doesn't know what to do, Marie leads him the whole time, clearly feels out of pity because she knows his marriage is finished.. Granted, we all feel things differently, to me this was both cheaty and cuckish. Claire didn't give a damn if John was enjoying their swinging, their conversation afterwards had the clear aftertaste of Paul having taken Claire to places John never did, or never could. It was swinging in name only, one of the most cuckish scenes I've played and both John and Claire were disgusting. As a final pang, they go to bed and exchange a few formal comments, none of them really talks about what they're feeling. It's like their relationship was destroyed overnight.

I'm still disgusted, but don't want to shit on the author - this is a wip game and I should know better than to invest on stories and characters that aren't yet fleshed out. But if this is going to be another game about how much the male character is willing to sacrifice for love of his partner, I'm out.

 

[redoubt27]

I guess I'll be the odd man out here - that's fine, everyone interprets things differently.

For me the current update (yesterday) didn't feel particularly cuckish or bad, felt more like a standard swinging event. Granted, I would have enjoyed it more if they were all in the same room for the whole thing, but it wasn't the end of the world. Most of my complaints were it was too short and some of the animations and renders were kinda janky.

I'll have to let this play out more.
It's not bad. There's just less, nuance, with this scene than the previous scenes.
The scene plays out the same, for dominant and non-dominant Claire, cheating/NTR and sharing paths.
This is the first time MC doesn't really see everything that happens with Claire (provided Claire didn't cheat before with Damien) and he doesn't get a "full report"...
So, of course he's feeling something is, off.
Easily remedied with a deeper conversation with Claire.
But for now, she and Marie both told MC not to overthink it, it was just a fun night.
So, unless the reader has allowed Claire to cheat, no reason to overthink it for now.
Just have to see how it goes in the future...

MC isn't a NPC in this one, he's having fun too, so that's a great change from the previous version/story...lol

 

[reidanota]

Played another game earlier, Bonds Between - very "feel good" so far, even if the conundrum of relationships it's setting up makes you wonder what kind of mess is going to follow. But for now it's very light and would have been a great one to play after BILH 2nd NTR update. Wish I had played them in the reverse order

 

[reidanota]

The scene plays out the same, for dominant and non-dominant Claire, cheating/NTR and sharing paths.

You make me think I probably messed up in the previous version (I continued a savegame from before). Because in that version I pushed it and tried several paths, none of the scenes was particularly intense so I wasn't too worried. That may have led to a worse scene on this update. To begin with, while having the conversation before, Claire hints that she was excited and expecting Paul to dominate her like John couldn't. During the scene, what I saw was Claire 100% into Paul, her thoughts were about how she'd never experienced anything like it, how she loved it, not for a fleeting moment did she wonder if Paul was having fun, too, not a hint of jealousy or hesitation on her part regarding John and Marie, not even interest in them as if she didn't feel anything at all. Seriously, what I got was all about Claire cheating on John right to his face. Heck, Paul even says to John something like "you're lucky to have Marie, but not nearly as luck as I", as if to punch it even harder. And, really, Paul didn't have fun, he was anguished, no initiative, Marie led him the entire time, like she could see he was a fish out of water. When they part, John is a mess and Claire wants to repeat the experience as soon as possible.

But for now, she and Marie both told MC not to overthink it, it was just a fun night.

See, this is what condescending feels like to me. Might actually been have what triggered me the most. They both know they didn't have the same experience, they could have talked but both preferred to avoid the talk, not a good sign. At best, Claire feels like John can't take it if she bares her feelings right there and then, John is afraid to appear weak if he admits he didn't like it. I don't see any redemption unless John's character changes completely. If it does, it will be a pleasant surprise, as in other games it worked great for me (when the MC starts as a wimp but eventually mans up).

Shit, I rant too much. I'm really not into these games for "strong negative emotions", don't see the appeal in it.

 

[redoubt27]

You make me think I probably messed up in the previous version (I continued a savegame from before). Because in that version I pushed it and tried several paths, none of the scenes was particularly intense so I wasn't too worried. That may have led to a worse scene on this update. I swear, what I saw was Claire 100% into Paul, her thoughts were about how she'd never experienced anything like it, how she loved it, not for a fleeting moment did she wonder if Paul was having fun, too, not a hint of jealousy or hesitation on her part regarding John and Marie, not even interest in them as if she didn't feel anything at all. Seriously, what I got was all about Claire cheating on John right to his face. Heck, Paul even says to John something like "you're lucky to have Marie, but not nearly as luck as I", as if to punch it even harder. And, really, Paul didn't have fun, he was anguished, no initiative, Marie led him the entire time, like she could see he was a fish out of water.

Nah, this scene is the same no matter what happens before...
I think I played every possible variation with the Damien and subsequent scenes.
There is an in-control MC variant, NTS, dominant Claire NTRS, and one where Claire cheats.
Then, there's the Gwen and Olivia/Club scene, both of which can play out differently depending on choices, more sharing or more cuckish...
All of those 'variants' get tossed out with this swinging scene.
So, I can understand with certain, previous variants, this Claire & Paul scene does feel, off, and rightly so for the MC.
But on others, not so much...lol

So far, on the NTR path(s), MC has the opportunity to have action with more women than Claire does men, soooo...lol
Yeah, Claire enjoyed it, a lot. But doesn't mean she's in love with Paul and not the MC. I saw no indication of that with any of the paths. Just Claire becoming the slut she is...lol
So, for now, take Claire and Marie's advice, don't overthink it, yet...lol

I'm curious to see how the Zoey scene goes.

 

[redoubt27]

See, this is what condescending feels like to me. Might actually been have what triggered me the most. They both know they didn't have the same experience, they could have talked but both preferred to avoid the talk, not a good sign. At best, Claire feels like John can't take it if she bares her feelings right there and then, John is afraid to appear weak if he admits he didn't like it. I don't see any redemption unless John's character changes completely. If it does, it will be a pleasant surprise, as in other games it worked great for me (when the MC starts as a wimp but eventually mans up).

Shit, I rant too much. I'm really not into these games for "strong negative emotions", don't see the appeal in it.

Yeah, I get that.
I think Marie gets the dynamic between Claire and John.
Claire is a slut that likes to get fucked...lol But, so far, she doesn't want to hurt John.
John isn't, weak. He's just the more, 'loving', the more vulnerable to being hurt.
Marie even mentions the vulnerability, so she knows.

This story seems to be setting up a similar situation to the original.
John choosing between slutwife Claire or a more 'loving' situation with Zoey.
Or, he gets to have both...who knows. Just have to wait and see what Typist cooks up...lol

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

You make me think I probably messed up in the previous version (I continued a savegame from before). Because in that version I pushed it and tried several paths, none of the scenes was particularly intense so I wasn't too worried. That may have led to a worse scene on this update. To begin with, while having the conversation before, Claire hints that she was excited and expecting Paul to dominate her like John couldn't. During the scene, what I saw was Claire 100% into Paul, her thoughts were about how she'd never experienced anything like it, how she loved it, not for a fleeting moment did she wonder if Paul was having fun, too, not a hint of jealousy or hesitation on her part regarding John and Marie, not even interest in them as if she didn't feel anything at all. Seriously, what I got was all about Claire cheating on John right to his face. Heck, Paul even says to John something like "you're lucky to have Marie, but not nearly as luck as I", as if to punch it even harder. And, really, Paul didn't have fun, he was anguished, no initiative, Marie led him the entire time, like she could see he was a fish out of water. When they part, John is a mess and Claire wants to repeat the experience as soon as possible.



See, this is what condescending feels like to me. Might actually been have what triggered me the most. They both know they didn't have the same experience, they could have talked but both preferred to avoid the talk, not a good sign. At best, Claire feels like John can't take it if she bares her feelings right there and then, John is afraid to appear weak if he admits he didn't like it. I don't see any redemption unless John's character changes completely. If it does, it will be a pleasant surprise, as in other games it worked great for me (when the MC starts as a wimp but eventually mans up).

Shit, I rant too much. I'm really not into these games for "strong negative emotions", don't see the appeal in it.

Maybe I'll go through it again, because strong emotions are one thing i never felt for it, for me it was very paint by numbers- maybe I'm just jaded or releases have taken too long?

Nah, this scene is the same no matter what happens before...
I think I played every possible variation with the Damien and subsequent scenes.
There is an in-control MC variant, NTS, dominant Claire NTRS, and one where Claire cheats.
Then, there's the Gwen and Olivia/Club scene, both of which can play out differently depending on choices, more sharing or more cuckish...
All of those 'variants' get tossed out with this swinging scene.
So, I can understand with certain, previous variants, this Claire & Paul scene does feel, off, and rightly so for the MC.
But on others, not so much...lol

So far, on the NTR path(s), MC has the opportunity to have action with more women than Claire does men, soooo...lol
Yeah, Claire enjoyed it, a lot. But doesn't mean she's in love with Paul and not the MC. I saw no indication of that with any of the paths. Just Claire becoming the slut she is...lol
So, for now, take Claire and Marie's advice, don't overthink it, yet...lol

I'm curious to see how the Zoey scene goes.

I'm also anxiously awaiting the Zoey half. Not only because I like her more, but relevant to reidanota's comments above, that'll provide more context for if the scene was truly meant come off as harsh or disrespectful to the mc.


I think that's a big part of it for me - why I didn't have much issue with it - Claire. Claire's always been a slut. Even in the first full release of the remake with the night of Damien swinging, the whole time she seems overly eager to jump on his nuts, there's little to no permission-asking or her hinting at caring what the MC is doing or how he's feeling. I've joked Zoey feels like wayyyy more of an actual girlfriend during that event than Claire - she was by your side for most of the night, gentle and compassionate, and talked to MC before doing stuff.

So long story short, you could be right reidnota, but I dont really care because it's Claire. Now if the Zoey version goes down the exact same way, I'll be steamed

 

[Dessolos]

I have to replay it now too. When it gets updated to steam. I recall when I played it I had the opposite feeling so now i'm 2nd guessing what i recall feeling on my first time playing. As this is what I remember feeling on my first PT : I never really got the slut vibe from Claire expect for the cheating path. I actually thought Claire felt more like a girlfriend to me expect for when you play the Love path then it switches to Zoey for me.

Speaking of the love path I doubt this would happen but would be great if there is a way to go from being in a throuple to a NTS path while being in a throuple. As alot of the reason I never liked the Zoey scenes all that much is because to me she felt like a girl that has feeling for the MC but isn't in a relationship with him. So the NTS scenes with her were hot but beyond porn there was nothing there for me no connection or anything to get any of that hotness factor I get from NTS in other games. As at the end of the day on that path the MC is still with Claire and she just gave permission for Zoey for the movie night / swinging scene. So without being in some kind of relationship beyond a friend and your GF's sister her NTS scenes will always fall flat for me when it comes to feelings. But I feel like if you can go from Love path / throuple to NTS with both girls while being in an actual relationship with both would feel much better for me.

 

[PinkSpectre]

Maybe I'll go through it again, because strong emotions are one thing i never felt for it, for me it was very paint by numbers- maybe I'm just jaded or releases have taken too long?

I'm also anxiously awaiting the Zoey half. Not only because I like her more, but relevant to reidanota's comments above, that'll provide more context for if the scene was truly meant come off as harsh or disrespectful to the mc.


I think that's a big part of it for me - why I didn't have much issue with it - Claire. Claire's always been a slut. Even in the first full release of the remake with the night of Damien swinging, the whole time she seems overly eager to jump on his nuts, there's little to no permission-asking or her hinting at caring what the MC is doing or how he's feeling. I've joked Zoey feels like wayyyy more of an actual girlfriend during that event than Claire - she was by your side for most of the night, gentle and compassionate, and talked to MC before doing stuff.

So long story short, you could be right reidnota, but I dont really care because it's Claire. Now if the Zoey version goes down the exact same way, I'll be steamed

Was basically gona try and say the same thing about Claire but didn't know how to word it. Thank you lol

 

[CursedByAll]

I purposely haven't played the last two updates to BILH, because I saw a comment from a member who queried the dev, asking about the future slant of the game, who apparently said that he would focus on the NTR path for a few updates, before returning to the original sharing paths before the game ends. (scripting and a few variant scenes) I guess he has "those" demanding patreons too.
So, for me that translates to "have patience" and trust that it will eventually become the game it originally promised.

 

[Joshy92]

I guess I'll be the odd man out here - that's fine, everyone interprets things differently.

For me the current update (yesterday) didn't feel particularly cuckish or bad, felt more like a standard swinging event. Granted, I would have enjoyed it more if they were all in the same room for the whole thing, but it wasn't the end of the world. Most of my complaints were it was too short and some of the animations and renders were kinda janky.

It was pure kinetic trash. I want to watch Claire. not be forced to fuck some useless side chick.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

It was pure kinetic trash. I want to watch Claire. not be forced to fuck some useless side chick.

I thought Marie was attractive

 

[Joshy92]

I thought Marie was attractive

I just hate side characters, Johnny. It's the same reason I didn't enjoy the last east block update.

Where is the emotional connection? You can't get that with random filler characters.

 

[Dessolos]

yeah tbh Side characters are only ever good if they are done like how DPC or a few other devs do them where they feel like they a bit more than a side character but less than a main girl. But from I heard it's forced so makes it much worst. I hate being forced into any sexual situation unless it's for plot or character building reasons it actually makes me start to dislike the LI or side girl.

Yeah tbh I only liked the East Block update for the hotness factor and the dark story element but was disappointed in the fact their was no main characters to have fun with unless you count the cheating path for Luke. I was hoping we would of gotten to the Nat scene.

 

[reidanota]

Speaking of the love path I doubt this would happen but would be great if there is a way to go from being in a throuple to a NTS path while being in a throuple.

This.

Don't want to turn it into an argument on whether it was or wasn't, factually, a humiliating experience for John. Point is, it would have taken very little for the author to have made it a scene to feel good about. All it would take would be for John to be excited about Claire's readiness to be a slut, respond to the challenge, tell Marie why don't we show them they're not the only ones who can have fun - or whatever, show that he was absolutely enjoying it. Would it have been too much if Claire could have been a slut FOR JOHN, Kat style? I wanted to avoid comparisons but... failed.

Also don't really care about Marie either, as a side-character, and I'm not saying John should have objectified her by making it a competition (whether with Paul or Claire) but if he really was excited to see Claire being a slut, he would have been hard for it and could have really fucked Marie. Instead, she pampered him as if she was consoling a disappointed child. The author made a point to show us she didn't even cum (while Paul made Claire squirt and borderline pass out); never once did Marie tell John how good it was for HER; she was treating him like a MILF to a virgin boy but couldn't even help boosting his confidence. In the end, she tells him that Paul is like that, takes what he wants, women go crazy about it, don't overthink it. In other words, it's the same old alpha/beta trope.

It was pure kinetic trash. I want to watch Claire. not be forced to fuck some useless side chick.

I wish I could enjoy the game by just focusing on Claire being a slut, but there's a reason I don't play NTR. Can't go over the fact that you're seeing John's perspective most of the time, he IS the main character, and he got completely played there. Maybe I should play a few female protagonist slut games to get a thicker skin for partners being trampled on.

In the scene with Damien, Claire was in control. Even if she cheated, Damien wasn't the agent, he was just taking what was given. In the "swinging" scene, Paul orchestrated and profited at the expense of John (and Marie? She wasn't thrilled either). Claire wasn't in control, she was "taken". Adding to the little things, this is something I hate. Viscerally. May have been just for an hour, but during that time, Paul stole Claire and gloated about it. I guess the author would count it as a success having triggered deep emotions of jealousy, dread and helplessness, but isn't that what NTR games are about? If this scene is to remain in the other paths LIKE THIS, it's not going to please (all) those who are in it for sharing instead.

Again, all it would take would be for John to man up to the moment, in whichever way, and it would be really easy to focus on Claire being a slut. Instead, it makes it's reinforcing a vibe from the aftermath of the Damien episode, where John was clearly excited but then Claire was dominant and took complete control. This time, there's no fuck before sleep - biologically understandable, but still reinforces a narrative where John is increasingly passive.

Don't take this as an attempt to sell my view as the ultimate truth. It would actually be nice to get the author's own view on how the scene was intended to play, but ofc we won't get that. I can't stand MC passivity or the dynamics of little (or loss of) confidence. Claire with some Kat vibes would be a dream Claire. Or the problem my lie entirely on John being too passive.

Vented too much yesterday, but it seems like I still have some venting in me LOL

 

[reidanota]

I'm reminded of a game that never made it to F95,

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, centred around a swinging club in the Victorian era. Granted, there's a beta/sissy path and that's probably the author's main focus, but there's a dom path as well that includes *mostly* cool sharing events.

On one of the scenes, though, the club members draw straws to pick their partner for the evening. Ofc the MC's fiancée gets his stud best friend, what I didn't like was that the MC gets the old crone, an insufferable old aristocrat with no sex appeal whatsoever (not an age thing, she's bitter, contemptuous and treats the MC as her sub) who happens to be a founding member and was presented in a prior episode as cheering for a "human hunt" game where a prisoner was "given a chance" to run for his life, but ultimately shot down, to her most enthusiastic applause. The entire sex scene is more about the MC being a sport, enduring the "ordeal" of getting the witch off and fucking her as her sub without complaining, and coming back to bed to his fiancée's excited account of how it went between her and his friend. At least the MC could have been equally eloquent describing his own experience and how horrible it was and the two would have had a good laugh. But no, too gentlemanly or too much of a good-sport to even play being a sour loser, prefers to keep the sour aftertaste to himself. Or I just read too much into it, just didn't like being on the bad side of Lady Luck that time.

It was a good game overall, though. Haven't played it in over a year but at the time, it sounded like the dom path didn't get any worse than that, there was a trip to Paris with some more "kosher sharing" events, it's been regularly updated and proably more than doubled the content since then, hopefully in the right direction.