Bro, you summed it up LOOOL. That's exactly what it is
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SinisterPortal
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You are saying this because, as you said earlier, you always go for the hardest sharing options to see maximum of the content. I, on the other hand, always try to keep things "on the edge" - I want to see maximum teasing without actual sex. So for you her suddenly sucking him off is not a problem, but I wanted my first playthrough to be "a pure love" route, but with getting as much teasing as possible.
Well you just confirmed what I said earlier - combining mutual understanding of the limits together with keeping things thrilling is a delicate finesse.
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I just think more of these authors get it right than people give them credit for. MRL, for one, I never expected to go anywhere other than sharing. But people will always find a way to freak out. I mean, early days, there was the hobo blowjob scene, but since it was optional, people freaked out about the policeman scene instead. Damn, I mean, it WAS escalation, but that's what made it good, it was impromptu and a perverted scheme to get out of trouble with law enforcement. And they both enjoyed it afterwards. But people were offended, even then, because it was HER initiative. Fuck that.
Having said that, maybe authors aren't doing a perfect job managing expectations. I like these "sudden escalations" and other surprises, when you have enough context to be able to read them in light of what you're told about the characters. But closing an update with a cliffhanger on such a "surprise" will naturally get some people puzzled, some upset, some going into a rage, because there IS an open question and the resolution is left for a future episode. The fun an author may have in playing with reader expectations easily backfires when many in the "mature games" audience aren't mature enough to manage their own expectations
And it snowballs. Soon the author is in damage control mode and a good story is fucked up because of bad timing.I can see your point, but a "pure teasing" full playthrough might be a tall order, though legitimate. Would probably be easier to find a vanilla game that flirts with non-vanilla themes, without quite going there, than a sharing game that includes teasing, but not more than that, in their pure love route. My assumption is that pure love routes are geared towards players who don't enjoy non-vanilla content and authors that include them go out of their way to remove even the slightest suggestion of "offensive" content.
Final edit: when I say I go for the "hardest sharing", I just mean I go for anything that could pass as sharing between two confident, liberated, loving partners, including when one of them takes the initiative without prior consulting, as long as the obvious tension resolves immediately after. I don't enjoy prolonged tension, mystery about the partner's true intentions, or any sort of lying, deflecting or omitting stuff that should obviously be talked about between partners, especially about something that already happened. In other words, the perfect, happy, confident, assertive couple that never fights. Honestly, I don't know who's order is tallest
But when real life is so full of shit, one can only fantasise
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Hobo blowjob scene? I don't remember that. Maybe you meant hobo cunni scene?
Also what policeman scene are you talking about? The one where she tried to seduce him (but he rejected her approaches)?
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Well the thing is the dev of MRL promised that all swinging will be optional. As for vanilla games with non-vanilla themes - can you recommend me something?
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Damn, have they toned down the story THAT much? I'm not sure about the hobo scene now, maybe it was cunni (but does it matter if it's his tongue going inside her, rather than his cock). But I think the second policeman scene, the one where they're stopped and the MC's driving drunk, had the policeman actually taking advantage of the situation? Or at least she was VERY forward in her seduction, maybe she scared him away, but people still whined about it.
Unfortunately, no! I never pick vanilla games these days...
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Oh it matters a lot to me, lol. I wouldn't mind him eating her pussy but Suzie was visibly unhappy about it so I stopped it
I recall nothing happened between them in the second scene either - she bent over, he got hard - that's it. I liked it that way - she got naughty, there was tension, but nothing too naughty happened. The MC expected more and it' good, it's he who should be the driving force in that, not her. I like when he pushes her into getting naughty with other guys and she pushes him to other girls - that way it keeps being about them and their relationship
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I've held back on playing VR because people even on this thread mentioned the FMC was the one who "wore the pants" in the couple. Meaning the MMC mostly took the back seat. Maybe that changed? Or maybe it's still the case, but it doesn't tell as much about the MMC's personality and demeanour as I made it to? Would love to know if he really passes as a good lover, too. It's ok if the game is MEANT to be that way, I just don't like the genre, doesn't mean I think it's a bad game. But if there's a decent path where you can fuck Am and be her first in everything she does on screen, I'm probably good with a lot of stuff I wasn't a year ago. Still don't like the obviously emasculating tropes of the FMC giving her first anal to another guy, or her first creampie, or her first armpit rub or first nose kissking or any shit like that. Not that any of it is a big deal, but when the author's obvious message is to rub it on the player's face that the MMC can't do anything about it, they're intently playing with my wired reactions, fuck that
We're going for similar things, maybe different flavour. I do prefer that everything is about "them and their relationship", too, rather than self-gratification. My only point back there was that communication can go beyond spoken words or obvious gestures. I mean, if they're smart, in love and very well acquainted with each other, their mutual agreement doesn't need to spelled out every time. But it does take a skilful writer to make it work.
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Ironically up until the two devs had a falling out, Luke was gonna be the one giving Vi the business at the photoshoot
Take that ya smug blondy!
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Aw man. I was looking forward to that, too...Ironically up until the two devs had a falling out, Luke was gonna be the one giving Vi the business at the photoshoot
Luke, Alice, Vi, & Eric were gonna be good friends...sigh...oh well...
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fr? Damn, I hoped they were the same personIronically up until the two devs had a falling out, Luke was gonna be the one giving Vi the business at the photoshoot
What did they disagree on?For sure, and moreover I looked forward to it because it provided an equitable swinging/sharing setup absent family or or bbc or old man overtones.Aw man. I was looking forward to that, too...
Luke, Alice, Vi, & Eric were gonna be good friends...sigh...oh well...
I don't know the specifics, but it sounded like there was a clash between some of their team members- (both of them have multiple people working on the projects, and in the ai games space there's a lot of overlap)fr? Damn, I hoped they were the same person
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Heard there was some bad blood between some of them an the dev of Moonripple Lake. Heck, the AI world is a tough place! Frankly, it's prolly for better that the dev of Moonripple won't look up to them - his work is miles above SoA and MNGF
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I think Life in Windvale approaches the swinger fetish better tbh. Well, more aggressive, sure, but if sharing is the only thing you are interested in LiW suggests more already. Moonripple is excellent all-round, while LiW is more focused on the fetish
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But is it kinetic? Most of them besides MRPL are kinetic. I don't play those.
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it's not kinetic, e.g. a friend asks you to conceive with his wife as he can't get it up, you can:
1) decline
2) accept (the friend develops a cuckold fetish)
If you accept, then you can:
1) just cuck him and knock up his wife as he asked
2) turn this into swinger relationship (he has fun with your wife too)
If you turn this into swinger relationship, you can later choose to get you wife pregged by him. So your wife can have a baby from him (while his wife of course has a baby from you).
And that's just one character, there are others, e.g. like in Moonripple you can choose to get cuckquean content or not.
Also, despite the MC is very dominant and confident, you can choose to make him a bit more passive, voyeurist type. Basically you can choose either to be a watcher or to participate in MMF threesomes with your wife.
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Definitely not into impregnating each other's partners.
And just looked at the artwork, not for me. I'm not in to oversized balloon boobs.
And just looked at the artwork, not for me. I'm not in to oversized balloon boobs.
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Ah, for me it's the opposite, a big tit and ass MILF is my perfect waifu for a sharing gameDefinitely not into impregnating each other's partners.
And just looked at the artwork, not for me. I'm not in to oversized balloon boobs.
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The adored marriage updated. Looking forward to playing that tonight. I just hope I don't have to restart if he changed stuff.