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reidanota

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Avoidable NTS. No NTR. Its netorare tag should probably be removed.

If you don't opt out of the NTS choice near the start of the game (that would otherwise set you on barely developed vanilla/harem path) MC and his main LI have a NTS fetish/want to experiment to begin with. The first scene where someone screws around is a cuckquean scene for her where she gets off to you fooling around with her roommate. After that they have a full swap foursome at home. What some consider "ntr" is that after that full swap orgy, when everyone's sleeping, your girlfriend can go over to the sleeping dude and bang him again. MC is ok with it/likes it. And over the course of the game she goes off and bangs other guys while recording it for the MC who gets off to it. Same as he also gets to bang other women, including in front of her/with her/for her.
I might be wrong but you're likely describing the old version of the game (which I never played). Game has a long history since 2018 but Typist rebooted the story in 2025 and it currently goes more or less like this:
- You and Claire have a conversation about "opening up" your relationship.
- There's an optional cuckquean first scene with Claire's sister which (not sure) can be a threesome or with Claire just watching.
- There's scene with Claire at the gym with an option where you can decide if Claire is attracted to her gym coach or not.
- Later, there's a first sharing scene where you and Claire go out into the neighbourhood for her to kiss the first stranger male that comes around - who happens to be the coach. Claire asks the coach to not reveal that they're acquainted and hides it from the MC.
- There's a sex scene between Claire and the MC, where the MC is "losing it" until Claire teases him about fucking other men.
- There's the possibility of the MC having sex with another girl (masseuse? Don't quite remember) and if he does, there's no option to tell Claire about it - either cheating path material, or a step into an actual free-pass type of relationship. In any case, they don't talk about it.
- There might be a foursome with Claire, her sister and the coach, don't remember, that could fit the foursome description that you mentioned.
- There's the swinging scene that I described multiple times in this thread, which is initiated by the male neighbour manipulating the MC into it. I think you can refuse it? But then the game ends, currently there's nothing else after that. But if you don't refuse it, the MC is clearly uncomfortable with it, plays along out of undecidedness, feeling like he's being led by the neighbour. If he tells Claire about it, she tells the MC that she loves the idea because the neighbour strikes her as a very dominant man, and she wants to experience something with him that she can't with the MC; she's so much into it that the MC can't back down if he wanted (her words, quite the opposite of how a sober couple would approach their first swinging experience). The rest is a crescendo of humiliation, and the current episode ends with them going to bed in silence, both unable to communicate what they're feeling. The MC in conflicted and lost.

Realistic? Maybe. People say many would-be swingers bite more than they can chew. I'm personally not interested in exploring those kinds of emotions as entertainment, but what I mean is that NTS is too broad a genre, and "consent to fuck others" doesn't strike me as the strongest defining aspect to help people choose games by. The original question was "is this game NTR or NTS" and I wanted to share information that's actually useful about the game, not berate anyone who enjoys a more broad, or just different scope of themes than I. Lots of people here enjoy the kind of game BILH currently is, more power to them (but the game seems pretty dead, anyway. Or not, Typist is known for very long hiatuses between updates).
 
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Respectfully disagree. Or, at least, the NTS is of a very "classic japanese" style, with the added BNWO trope if you share Claire; the MC is a hopeless sub. He's completely humiliated by the alpha-male neighbour in what was supposed to be a swinging scene, fails to get the neighbour's wife off, she is all condescending and Claire (his wife) at one point makes it perfectly clear that she's interested in the neighbour because he's dominant in a way the MC could never be (and that this is important to her). The MC is clearly described as being uncomfortable with it, and the whole "swinging" deal, but there's nothing he/you can do to stop it. Even in their first experiment, Claire's supposed to kiss a stranger for the MC but, instead, she meets her gym coach and they both pretend they never met (with the MC being none the wiser, and Claire never admits the truth - there's definitely a cheating element to it). Sex between Claire and the MC is lukewarm at best and Claire is clearly dominant. Never mind consent, this game is a NTR fantasist's dream, think along the lines of small cock, premature ejaculator, can't get women off, jacks off to her being fucked by guys who can actually fuck her kind of cuck (not literally, but definitely in tone). Includes a poor NTS path as a afterthought, which doesn't work unless you
- enjoy the MC being humiliated;
- forget about the MC completely and jack off to renders of the wife being railed by other guys (Claire is a hot model).
There may be a cuckquean after-afterthought if you fuck her sister but I don't know if that's possible without also sharing Claire. There's so little sexual chemistry between the MC and Claire that I don't think a vanilla path would ever work, unless something drastically changes in a future update.

So, regarding the question

take the above as a warning. NTR and NTS are bad tags. There may be a path where no cheating happens (yet) but if you enjoy it, then you would likely enjoy NTR as well. Do your own judgement, but let me make one more thing clear: it may be true that the "sharing" is triggered by a conversation where they're both interested in "spicing things up", but once that's agreed upon, you and the MC are taking the back seat, and Claire is not fucking other guys to please her husband, she's doing it because she wants something that the MC can't give her. Huge turnoff.
Respectfully agree to some extent, but I don't swing to the extremes that you seem to have done. I didn't feel the MC was particularly humiliated although I agree that Claire seems to be heading off on her own path. There's a stridency, a certainty to your argument and I don't believe it's quite as stark as you paint things. I get the impression that the MC is moving toward changing horses to a better matched Zoey but who knows. You seem to argue against yourself starting with 'NTS is of a very "classic japanese" style' and later saying that NTR and NTS are bad tags. I suppose that my main argument against your review is the certainty in which it is written. Hoochimama strikes a more appropriate level from my viewpoint.
 
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The last scene very much makes the MC more of a sub, MCs girl and other guy going to an entirely separate room to fuck, Claire blushing over the dominant male, the dominant male smirking, the wife of the other guy lite mocking the MC, etc. It's definitely going towards heavier cheating/MC playing a lesser role.
 
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Respectfully agree to some extent, but I don't swing to the extremes that you seem to have done. I didn't feel the MC was particularly humiliated although I agree that Claire seems to be heading off on her own path. There's a stridency, a certainty to your argument and I don't believe it's quite as stark as you paint things. I get the impression that the MC is moving toward changing horses to a better matched Zoey but who knows. You seem to argue against yourself starting with 'NTS is of a very "classic japanese" style' and later saying that NTR and NTS are bad tags. I suppose that my main argument against your review is the certainty in which it is written. Hoochimama strikes a more appropriate level from my viewpoint.
Didn't want to sound like I own the truth at all. I just think NTS is imprecise, as a descriptor. By "classic japanese" I meant only that japanese netorase usually involves main characters who willingly relinquish control, or just have no control and enjoy it. My perception may be wrong, I don't claim to be an expert in japanese eroge. Clearly, I chose a bad phrase, didn't get my point across. In any case, "NTS" can include humiliation, some masochism and main characters that take the back seat and enjoy their wife doing their thing, also not arguing against that, but that's exactly why it seems like too broad a category. I want to avoid going even further into detail on BILH, so I'll try to use the end of the current episode as an example: the "swinging" scene shocked them both, their communication is (temporarily?) cut off, each of them is processing their emotions internally. If they could voice their feelings, Claire and the MC would be at opposite extremes, she'd be talking about how ecstatic the neighbour left her, but doesn't (one can infer that it's because she knows it would hurt the MC). The MC is overrun by the whole situation, which he had no control of. In the end, he was patronized by both his wife and the neighbour's wife, telling him that her husband is just so dominant, he (the MC) shouldn't take it to heart, "it's just how the world is" (my summary). At this point, it's established that the MC is not a dominant character, and this will not be a stag/vixen kind of game. This is why I'm not sure I can subscribe to the certainty critique that you made. I fully accept that I had a very strong emotional reaction to the way the story is written, but still insist that the writing is there. Open to interpretation, ofc.

Having said all that, I accept that I didn't make a neutral critique, that's probably obvious, but also didn't try to hide it. You make a very interesting point that Zoey could be a better match for the MC. I have to admit, through my own conditioned reactions, I can't enjoy a story telling me that "my" character married a woman that's on a different league, whom he must let go of "because he loves her", and be content with the second choice. It would take a lot of good writing from Typist to make the MC and Zoey fall in love in a way that didn't come off as coping with failure to keep Claire. Again, lots of interesting anthropology there, but I seek pleasure in entertainment, including indulging my ego, not a reckoning with my own monsters in a "controlled environment". Sorry for the self-justification you and nobody else probably cares about :p
Because I Love Her is one of the few sharing games I actually enjoy. Minus the last update for the sharing path, of course.
And I'm really glad for you! There are plenty of sharing games that follow a more active wife, passive MC narrative. Nothing against that. This one, by my mistake, I had the wrong expectations about, and was disappointed. It became sort of the counterexample of the kind of sharing games that I look for, but I'm happy for everyone who enjoy it. Hope Typist does bring them a good game, to completion. It just doesn't seem like a game that a player who prefers agency and a non-submissive MC can enjoy (parity would be enough for me, but there isn't even that).
 
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On the NTS path how Claire's sister loses her virginity is clearly rushed and even nonsensical a bit. Until that moment her sister was the most interesting character and their triangle romance (the MC + Claire + Claire's sister, with Claire being cuckquean) could have been a great story, but for the NTS the dev needed to turn Claire's sister into a slut so she quickly loses virginity without much thought to it. You don't have that on the vanilla path, so it can still be a great story, but the dev said people wanted NTR so he abandons the vanilla/cuckquean path.
 
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I got bored of BILH due to the fact that the updates are super inconsistent, BNWO trope, cheating off the bat, and the sharing is poorly implemented. I don’t like BNWO games in general because it’s high key racial stereotyping, always involves the gf/wife being in love with the black bull but having to stay with her white SO, and all these guys look the same or similar because devs don’t wanna make new models and just copy/paste and brush up if they wanna brush up
 

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...gave them NTS instead :KEK:
afaik the last update is literally called "NTR update" :LOL:

anyhow, I'm probably in the minority that is not that much concerned over their swinging experience with this dominant criminal guy, the worst parts for me were the unavoidable BBC and how Claire's sister arc was ruined on this path. The vanilla path has none of that and has a sweat cuckeuan arc for Claire but alas the vox populi decided that cuck content is more important.
 

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afaik the last update is literally called "NTR update" :LOL:

anyhow, I'm probably in the minority that is not that much concerned over their swinging experience with this dominant criminal guy, the worst parts for me were the unavoidable BBC and how Claire's sister arc was ruined on this path. The vanilla path has none of that and has a sweat cuckeuan arc for Claire but alas the vox populi decided that cuck content is more important.
What I don’t get is the fact that it explicitly says NTR is avoidable, but the dev is hinting that it won’t be? I guess it’s my fault for playing the game and expecting avoidable NTR while sharing my gf but not really sharing her because she’s already made it clear she will cheat from the get go.
 

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Respectfully disagree. Or, at least, the NTS is of a very "classic japanese" style, with the added BNWO trope if you share Claire; the MC is a hopeless sub. He's completely humiliated by the alpha-male neighbour in what was supposed to be a swinging scene, fails to get the neighbour's wife off, she is all condescending and Claire (his wife) at one point makes it perfectly clear that she's interested in the neighbour because he's dominant in a way the MC could never be (and that this is important to her). The MC is clearly described as being uncomfortable with it, and the whole "swinging" deal, but there's nothing he/you can do to stop it. Even in their first experiment, Claire's supposed to kiss a stranger for the MC but, instead, she meets her gym coach and they both pretend they never met (with the MC being none the wiser, and Claire never admits the truth - there's definitely a cheating element to it). Sex between Claire and the MC is lukewarm at best and Claire is clearly dominant. Never mind consent, this game is a NTR fantasist's dream, think along the lines of small cock, premature ejaculator, can't get women off, jacks off to her being fucked by guys who can actually fuck her kind of cuck (not literally, but definitely in tone). Includes a poor NTS path as a afterthought, which doesn't work unless you
- enjoy the MC being humiliated;
- forget about the MC completely and jack off to renders of the wife being railed by other guys (Claire is a hot model).
There may be a cuckquean after-afterthought if you fuck her sister but I don't know if that's possible without also sharing Claire. There's so little sexual chemistry between the MC and Claire that I don't think a vanilla path would ever work, unless something drastically changes in a future update.

So, regarding the question

take the above as a warning. NTR and NTS are bad tags. There may be a path where no cheating happens (yet) but if you enjoy it, then you would likely enjoy NTR as well. Do your own judgement, but let me make one more thing clear: it may be true that the "sharing" is triggered by a conversation where they're both interested in "spicing things up", but once that's agreed upon, you and the MC are taking the back seat, and Claire is not fucking other guys to please her husband, she's doing it because she wants something that the MC can't give her. Huge turnoff.
I think the first swinging night with Damien was the more equanimous scene, despite my own dislike for bbc tropes. Agreed the initial "kiss stranger" stuff involving him started things off with a....I won't say metallic taste, but it hardly conceals where the writer's own interests lie.

I'm less harsh than you on the game overall, to me it's still worlds better than the pre-remake from a swinging/share perspective. The second neighbor event wasn't really my jam admittedly- I think a bit more intensity and sensuality between mc and the neighbor wife would have gone a long way in making the scene feel less dour. But there was still good stuff in between like the club phone calls etc.
Avoidable NTS. No NTR. Its netorare tag should probably be removed.

If you don't opt out of the NTS path near the start of the game (that would otherwise set you on a barely developed vanilla/harem path) MC and his main LI have a NTS fetish/want to experiment to begin with. He enjoys sharing her. She enjoys sharing him. The first possible scene where someone screws around is a cuckquean scene for her where she gets off to you fooling around with her roommate. After that they have an unavoidable full swap foursome at home. What some consider "ntr" is that when everyone's sleeping after that full swap orgy your girlfriend can go over to the sleeping dude and bang him again. MC is ok with it/likes it. And over the course of the game she goes off and bangs other guys while recording it for the MC who gets off to it. Same as he also gets to bang other women, including in front of her/with her/for her.
This is incorrect. There are ntr scenes, they're just the minority and harder to navigate to, like claire cheating with damien after the first swinging night when MC's gone to bed.

Also - correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem more in the pure ntr camp, whereas I'd guess the majority of people in this thread throwing that term around mean it in a more loose vernacular, as in "this gives more ntr vibes than share vibes". Realize that wasn't the context of the guy you quoted asking the question- just mentioning this in general.

I'd expect ntr fans to have a poor sense of what sharing fans feel is too ntrish (just as I'd also expect sharing fans to have a poor sense of an ntr lover's preferences)
Respectfully agree to some extent, but I don't swing to the extremes that you seem to have done. I didn't feel the MC was particularly humiliated although I agree that Claire seems to be heading off on her own path. There's a stridency, a certainty to your argument and I don't believe it's quite as stark as you paint things. I get the impression that the MC is moving toward changing horses to a better matched Zoey but who knows. You seem to argue against yourself starting with 'NTS is of a very "classic japanese" style' and later saying that NTR and NTS are bad tags. I suppose that my main argument against your review is the certainty in which it is written. Hoochimama strikes a more appropriate level from my viewpoint.
Better matched Zoey :love: takes the words out of my mouth. Ever since this remake started I've felt Zoey was the far more 'girlfriendey' girl, whereas Claire acts like some random sidepiece. In fact, ignoring the most recent neighbor kerfuffle and focusing on Zoey and ignoring claire from the start, it plays like a fairly romantic relationship simulator with a warm-hearted girl who's willing to spice things up with MC.
 

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Here we go discussing NTR v NTS once again.

Which is stupid and ridiculous, as proven so often, not only in this thread, but because it happens everywhere on this forum.
I can guarantee that we will all come up with a different definition of all the Jap terms, read others', disagree, sometimes wildly, and still all believe we have the right one.
What is and what isn't, is for you alone to decide. That much is obvious.

So, here in this thread, I think we do actually agree on what the actual English terms mean (mostly).
Sharing, Swinging, Cheating, Cuckolding, Humiliation etc....you get it...

Most of this thread is about the first two, and I believe that is what most members are here for. They are the terms we should use, for actual clarity.

Trouble is most game devs also like to run paths including one or all of the other three, which is where some of us draw the line between "good" and "bad"

Using NTR v NTS is useless....because none of us will ever completely agree on WTF they actually mean, and I also suspect most of us here actually do not want to deal with either anyway.

The reason we are here is in the title...
 
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On the NTS path how Claire's sister loses her virginity is clearly rushed and even nonsensical a bit. Until that moment her sister was the most interesting character and their triangle romance (the MC + Claire + Claire's sister, with Claire being cuckquean) could have been a great story, but for the NTS the dev needed to turn Claire's sister into a slut so she quickly loses virginity without much thought to it. You don't have that on the vanilla path, so it can still be a great story, but the dev said people wanted NTR so he abandons the vanilla/cuckquean path.
Interesting thats sounded really fun. I want more cuckquean stuff tbh. that sucks he abandoned that something these devs need to know when not to take feed back
 
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Here we go discussing NTR v NTS once again.

Which is stupid and ridiculous, as proven so often, not only in this thread, but because it happens everywhere on this forum.
I can guarantee that we will all come up with a different definition of all the Jap terms, read others', disagree, sometimes wildly, and still all believe we have the right one.
What is and what isn't, is for you alone to decide. That much is obvious.

So, here in this thread, I think we do actually agree on what the actual English terms mean (mostly).
Sharing, Swinging, Cheating, Cuckolding, Humiliation etc....you get it...

Most of this thread is about the first two, and I believe that is what most members are here for. They are the terms we should use, for actual clarity.

Trouble is most game devs also like to run paths including one or all of the other three, which is where some of us draw the line between "good" and "bad"

Using NTR v NTS is useless....because none of us will ever completely agree on WTF they actually mean, and I also suspect most of us here actually want to deal with either anyway.
I figured it was pretty straightforward tbh. NTS we have a gf/wife that loves us but has fun letting us know about her outting while letting us know and has permission and not being a bad partner. while NTR is cheating humiliation being a bad partner and more or less just being a sissy fro you gf/wife and her bull
 

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Interesting thats sounded really fun. I want more cuckquean stuff tbh. that sucks he abandoned that something these devs need to know when not to take feed back
I really liked it and was very upset to learn that it's abandoned. When there's a choice between Vanilla/NTS/NTR/etc in a game, on my first playthrough I always play Vanilla and only then, on the second playthrough I play NTS. So in BILH I played the Vanilla path first (it is also the cuckquean path) and thought that this is one of my fave games ever. I was perplexed by the low rating of the game and even asked about it here. And then I played the NTS path there. Yeah, I couldn't even finish it. Story and characters are totally messed and unlike themselves in the first part of the game. So the low rating is now clear. And then I learned that the dev doesn't want to continue the Vanilla-cuckquean path because 95% of his players are playing the NTS-NTR path. Nuff said..
 

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I figured it was pretty straightforward tbh. NTS we have a gf/wife that loves us but has fun letting us know about her outting while letting us know and has permission and not being a bad partner. while NTR is cheating humiliation being a bad partner and more or less just being a sissy fro you gf/wife and her bull
haha....
No....
:rolleyes:
 

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I figured it was pretty straightforward tbh. NTS we have a gf/wife that loves us but has fun letting us know about her outting while letting us know and has permission and not being a bad partner. while NTR is cheating humiliation being a bad partner and more or less just being a sissy fro you gf/wife and her bull
Funnily enough, CursedByAll is right, that is not how I define NTS :LOL:

I think he is absolutely right, we do know and understand the western terms, and I think the differences between what constitutes NTS and NTR are very blurry at best.

I for one like sharing, a lot. But I always understand sharing as in being a participant. For me, what you describe as NTS is cuckolding, and I do not like that, and I see it closer to NTR, except that it doesn't have the humiliation part.

So yeah, to go back to the point, this is a list of western sharing games, we would all do well to use the western terms (and I know because I have done that myself that it is sometimes easy to revert back to NTS / NTR thinking that we all share the same definition, when it is clear we don't).

I think there is no confusion possible if one says "sharing without cuckolding", or "sharing with cuckolding", or "hotwifing", or "swinging". These terms are much more specific than "NTS".
 
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I honestly don't even want to say the letters in this thread LOOOL, but suffice to say I agree with Cursed on this 100%.
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So yeah, to go back to the point, this is a list of western sharing games, we would all do well to use the western terms (and I know because I have done that myself that it is sometimes easy to revert back to NTS / NTR thinking that we all share the same definition, when it is clear we don't).
I was thinking earlier today maybe I should just put a short reference section in lede that says something like 'For purposes of this thread, cuckolding is this, sharing is this, swinging is this - tho most of us probably have similar ideas in our mind to begin with.
 
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