exirock

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
May 4, 2018
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I totally forgot about this game, to find it today and seeing it hasn't been updated since the last time i played it, what is taking them so long, they better be making a good size update otherwise doesn't justify the wait.
 

Kirel

Member
Mar 18, 2018
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I totally forgot about this game, to find it today and seeing it hasn't been updated since the last time i played it, what is taking them so long, they better be making a good size update otherwise doesn't justify the wait.
It's been explained several times in the thread. It basically boils down to: 1) largest update yet, 2) devs had another child, 3) Pistachio had two hip surgeries and needed time to recover.
 

slick97

Active Member
Dec 2, 2021
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Yes, or at least is what many members already had mention that situation a couple of times even the situation regarding health issues that resulted in the necessity of a surgery for of the devs. Of course, as you sould expect this is still not enough to appease the frustration of many fans and even less the haters.
As a dev you have a couple of options if something IRL prevents you from doing work on a game that's receiving monthly subscriptions:
  1. Pause automatic transactions until you're able to continue working on the game
  2. Outsource the work to someone else with a revenue split (i.e. 30-70)
  3. Work through it
However, there is no incentive for these two to change their current workflow since they still make more per month than most people in the US. While I'd love to be proven wrong, I have a strong suspicion that this update will be permanently stuck in the "polish" phase since it's easy to just arbitrarily change the numbers to reflect any amount of progress.
 

HentaiGamerN00b

Active Member
Sep 6, 2020
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Why was the game abandoned? I don't understand.
Da Rulz of this site.
3. Prefixes

  1. On-hold: used for a developer who temporarily stops working on a game for whatever reason and makes a clear public statement about it, if they do not resume work in 6 months the prefix is changed to Abandoned.
  2. Abandoned: used in the following cases:
    • The developer states that the development has been permanently suspended.
    • After 3 months of inactivity from the developer's public creator/crowdfunding accounts (Patreon, SS, etc), we will resolve special circumstances or scenarios on a case-by-case basis (no creator accounts, creators developing for free, Patreon accounts under review/ban).
    • No game update has been released for an abnormally long period of time (>18 months).
    • Game threads that are marked On-hold for over 6 months with no game update.
    • Note: this prefix is only removed upon the release of a new update for purchase/download.
 

Sparhawker

Active Member
Mar 23, 2022
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Oh well, I guess I'll download the 6.02 and then call it a day with this.
Been sitting on 5.01 for a long while (and playing lots of other games where updates come every month or so)
 

MarxDraconis

New Member
Oct 29, 2021
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As a dev you have a couple of options if something IRL prevents you from doing work on a game that's receiving monthly subscriptions:
  1. Pause automatic transactions until you're able to continue working on the game
  2. Outsource the work to someone else with a revenue split (i.e. 30-70)
  3. Work through it
However, there is no incentive for these two to change their current workflow since they still make more per month than most people in the US. While I'd love to be proven wrong, I have a strong suspicion that this update will be permanently stuck in the "polish" phase since it's easy to just arbitrarily change the numbers to reflect any amount of progress.
This, all of this. If you can't maintain your original promised pacing, stop taking money from people until you can.
 

BurgRoyce

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Jul 17, 2022
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I also discovered it recently.

And it doesn't really matter if devs are performing a scam or they are just working ultramegahiperslow for whatever reasons. Even if that's true, if they aren't willing to (or they can't) speed up, at this pace this game will never be completed.
 
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moskyx

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Jun 17, 2019
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I doubt they explicitly said "this year we won't work because we have a baby. Oh we also plan to make a second one too, do your math"
Well, you are partly right, they didn't say that because they never stopped working except for a few days right after the baby was born. Also, they didn't plan to make another baby, this one they had on October 2022 was their second already (so next time you better check your data).

They literally said 'we just had a baby, our work will slow down because of that', explaining the changes it would mean to their usual workflow (basically they stopped working simultaneously, taking turns to take care of the baby and her needs, which should always come first). Then, they also informed about Pistachio's surgeries that delayed the progress even more and, above all, they keep posting a daily tracker from which everyone can infer their actual pace and act accordingly.
 
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wd1111

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Sep 26, 2021
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What if you inform your supporters you won't be able to keep up that pace, and they still want to support you anyway under the new conditions?
it is called - shearing sheep

and ffs stop bringing up those surgeries, it ain't such a big deal for people in 60ties, even less so for younger, you recover A LOT faster, and spend a lot of time not doing anything anyway, in fact it is pretty much perfect for doodling with renpy or sketching some scene
I spent a week in hospital after a major injury, and by day 3 I was going out of mind from doing nothing

so, I still stand by my point that they work on some other game besides this, hence they don't care much that some income from it drops, because the other thing is also producing $$, and when they let this update out, it will be back to regular level for a while, so win/win for them, these parallel projects explain a lot why other devs seem to start to slow down by a lot when the project starts to gain traction, because single project will plateau at some point, which seemed to be around 9k$/mo if I'm not mistaken with WaL, so why keep pushing just one project when you can have 2 or 3 going, because anyone with any sort of coding experience will tell you that "polishing python" for 2 months is slang for something else, not fixing bugs in code ;)
 
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fusibile87

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Jun 28, 2020
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Well, you are partly right, they didn't say that because they never stopped working except for a few days right after the baby was born.
Bro come on, let's be serious. it's been two years and the update is nowhere near finished. They are redoing drawings and writing. Of course they didn't work for the first six months, if not the whole first year.
 

moskyx

Forum Fanatic
Jun 17, 2019
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Bro come on, let's be serious. it's been two years and the update is nowhere near finished. They are redoing drawings and writing. Of course they didn't work for the first six months, if not the whole first year.
You can browse their Patreon page and see at least 5 spoilery pics or WIP videos posted between October 2022 and March 2023, and at least 3 more in the upcoming months until the baby's first birthday. That's actual work done for patrons to see, not just random numbers on a chart or a fancy weekly message. For comparison's sake, they posted around a dozen of spoilery artworks in the whole v0.6 development period that took them 10 months or so. So yeah, they kept working, just slower, as they said they'd do.

(Now you'll feel tempted to say they only did those pics and nothing else, but remember you were just claiming they did nothing at all.)
 
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