I just cannot see this in good faith anymore. If you keep discovering more work to do at the nth percentile that's a failure of planning, but I refuse to believe that's what's actually going on.
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abandoned and makes 7k a month what the fuck am i doing wrong in life
I propose this idea.. don't post anything else on this thread.. let's abandon them like they did with us fans.. thanks, nice game but now CIAOO
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This is why I have no sympathy for artists who bitch about AI, if you can make 7k+ a month doing nothing you deserve a little machine competition.
What difference would that make? As long as a shekels flow what people say doesn't affect them.
Patreon kicking them would do more to get them going since they would have to move over to another platform and build their audience again.
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I thought that at this point you already understood that taking in account things like % will not reflect reality, % is bullshit, they could choose to increase the number of "tasks" by 100 while only finishing 80 which technically means that they increased the development time in comparison to the previous report and yet the % would increase.
So forget about that, the only number important in the number of "tasks" to be completed and right now that has been reduced by 2 in relation to the previous report so you they moved forward, you can only claim the opposite if that number increases.
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There are many reasons for a game be tagged as "abandoned" (unfortunately), so just pick the one you think it may fit this game better I guess.
That's not how math works. If you make progress but literally create 400% more problems/work. Then it's not progressing.
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It is, if the created "400% more problems\work" are already completed and the numbers of "problems\work" you have remaining are less than what you had at the beginning, it doesn't matter if you completed 4x times already the number of "problems\work" you planned, if you have less to do now than you had when you started then you made progress.
Yeah but that's exactly it. It isn't and there's NOT less work than when they started but 3-4x more. Broad look they make less than 2%(from previous numbers) progress and create 8% more problems/work so it is literally going backwards.
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Thought some of you might enjoy a graph showing the evolution of progress over time. For each of the three main sections there's a column for tasks that are done and a column for total tasks, both as reported. The third column for each section is just a substraction, showing how many tasks are left to do for that section. Dates are in dd/mm/yyyy format, not the US mm/dd/yyyy format. The Y scale (for the rows) is not linear. Meaning there's a row almost for each day for the last few week, but the farther back we go (the further up the table), the more "gaps" there are in the date (because I couldn't be arsed to look for more of them, mainly).
If their work keeps this pace, the projection would be four months until completion.
If their work keeps this pace, the projection would be four months until completion.
Yeah exact this isn't an accurate portayal of it all (like debug and all the other categories they keep adding numbers to) and they literally keep raising the caps in each category so by the way it's been going the past 6 months the deadline has been pushed another 8 or so from whatever the original might have been.
I don't undertstand what it is people are not getting. If you add more numbers than you get done you are moving backwards. It's not hard math.
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Not really moving backwards since the polish phase really started in mid March, but the pace of progress has indeed been steadily going down.
They are gonna slow down. They only really started worked on this around march/april. Take in account the 6-8 months they used to make for the previous update and it's gonna be ready in october/november, but probably december.
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Probably. But I wasn't meaning to neither attack nor defend them, just stating facts as they are. So I didn't want to presume anything based on external information, just extrapolate from the data present in the set.
Here's the same info, with an added column for a statistically calculated rate of tasks per day, which should show the trend. Do not put a lot of faith in what that column says, as it's derived statistically. It's not hard facts. But as you can see, the rate of decrease is slowing down, meaning they seem to be reaching a stable rate of progress.
Also, I didn't plot it before May as it doesn't make any sense since that's the oldest reliable data that I have for actual polish progress.
Edited to add that "Tasks per day" does not mean how many tasks they are doing per day, but rather how many less tasks are left to be done. If they do 3 tasks and add 2, this is 1 task done as far as that statistic is concerned.
Here's the same info, with an added column for a statistically calculated rate of tasks per day, which should show the trend. Do not put a lot of faith in what that column says, as it's derived statistically. It's not hard facts. But as you can see, the rate of decrease is slowing down, meaning they seem to be reaching a stable rate of progress.
Also, I didn't plot it before May as it doesn't make any sense since that's the oldest reliable data that I have for actual polish progress.
Edited to add that "Tasks per day" does not mean how many tasks they are doing per day, but rather how many less tasks are left to be done. If they do 3 tasks and add 2, this is 1 task done as far as that statistic is concerned.
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It's so exciting boys and girls! 
And for those who have the stomach to post this fucking snail moving update on a daily basis, I tip my hat.
And for those who have the stomach to post this fucking snail moving update on a daily basis, I tip my hat.
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I also tip my hat to you for making this animation, that is time consuming. And a lot of fun to watch.It's so exciting boys and girls!
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And for those who have the stomach to post this fucking snail moving update on a daily basis, I tip my hat.
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Don't take it as an insult but this is just re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The fact of the matter is that the numbers might as well be made up (and probably are) given that we have no tangible proof that any progress has been made.
Also, to the people making the excel docs and animations of the fake progress. I like the gumption but you guys are putting more work in to this than the dev is in to the game. If you are enjoying yourself then have fun but don't get worked up, it's not worth your time.
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