Ren'Py What a Legend! [v0.7.03] [MagicNuts]

[TVHH]

why the fuck a game with weekly development update got marked "abandoned"?

I will say weekly milking for 18 months and counting.

 

[fusibile87]

well'p this game will be abandoned in three...two...one... on version 0.3 mark my words boyz!

Damn quite prophetic, even if it got the update number wrong...

Patreon numbers are dropping fast and i can't blame them. How can the devs not see the situation and release the update in march? 2 months for 5% is ridicolous.

 

[Finuee]

I agree, just by looking at the map of the game the world looks quite massive. I think they should have scaled it down by atleast 50%. Maybe they will do so in the future or the game will probaly be completed after 10 years, correct me if I am wrong but isn't everything also hand drawn in this game? If thats true then imagine how long it takes to make even a single full colored background, not even mentioning animating and creating the characters that's also a time taking process.

I honestly hope they don't scale the map down. I'm hoping they never complete the game, but that the updates become more frequent. I mean, in my ideal world, updates would be more common, but they would never stop, so I'd always have new content. Hence, I hope they never finish the game, but also they never stop pushing updates.

 

[Deleted member 6923157]

I honestly hope they don't scale the map down. I'm hoping they never complete the game, but that the updates become more frequent. I mean, in my ideal world, updates would be more common, but they would never stop, so I'd always have new content. Hence, I hope they never finish the game, but also they never stop pushing updates.

That's dependend on the graphics for one, if you think in 10 years those graphics look fine, okay then it's possible. Mostly after such a long time, they start to want to change stuff...

 

[ArsenHumby]

Updates will come faster when they have assets that they can reuse in the future at least I hope so, the redhead for example unless her quest requires to travel to some new city it could be finished faster.

 

[Syrabert]

Patreon numbers are dropping fast and i can't blame them. How can the devs not see the situation and release the update in march? 2 months for 5% is ridicolous.

so the devs should rush the release? Let me guess what's will be posted:
"Rushed so the dev's try to get the supporter back so he can still milk the supporters"
"Rushed because the dev's were afraid of the abandoned tag"
"Meh, a mediocrity rushed release, the dev's could do better"
"oh, it's rushed, the dev's could take some time and improve ..."
and so on.
my POV: We have waited so long for an update, few more month don't really change anything.

 

[T3X]

It's been 2 years. If the next update looks "rushed" at this point, then they've been scamming everyone.

 

[Syrabert]

It's been 2 years. If the next update looks "rushed" at this point, then they've been scamming everyone.

Hmm, let's try this:
There was a post in discord about the release of update 0.7:

q: Will the game be done before April.
a: I haven't yet started the polish phase of the work. so, no, very unlikely

member fusibile87 wrote: " How can the devs not see the situation and release the update in march? 2 months for 5% is ridicolous. " which i interpret loosely as: The devs should abandon their normal work schedule and do a quick release.
In my view it would be a rushed release (of 0.7) instead of a little bit longer waiting time for a "real" release. As you mentioned: it's been 2 years (or 18 month how you calculate), so few more weeks/month for a proper release are not a big deal.

 

[TheDevian]

Hmm, let's try this:
There was a post in discord about the release of update 0.7:

member fusibile87 wrote: " How can the devs not see the situation and release the update in march? 2 months for 5% is ridicolous. " which i interpret loosely as: The devs should abandon their normal work schedule and do a quick release.
In my view it would be a rushed release (of 0.7) instead of a little bit longer waiting time for a "real" release. As you mentioned: it's been 2 years (or 18 month how you calculate), so few more weeks/month for a proper release are not a big deal.

 

[KokoMie]

no worries, my grandchildren will continues this game for me one days

 

[Syrabert]

lol, it makes sense, now i understand the child last year, WAL is a generation project. Bet the baby is already playing with a stylus

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

I was a passionate patron for about 3 years on this game and progress was always slow, but this update really just killed me. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand the difficulties facing them as both game devs and busy parents and then there's the health issues, I sympathize. That being said if an update for a side character takes you 2 years I'm not paying you. That's not to say they owe me results as a patron, but also I don't owe them money for not delivering. Also, all the cross-promos they did during that time really rubbed me the wrong way. Still, I wish them all the best and am looking forward to future updates for the game.

 

[TREXrg]

It's been 2 years. If the next update looks "rushed" at this point, then they've been scamming everyone.

Scamming means you milk money or lie about product
What a Legend is a free game and i have not seen them lieing what the game/genre is and what to expect

 

[VenomusPL]

I was a passionate patron for about 3 years on this game and progress was always slow, but this update really just killed me. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand the difficulties facing them as both game devs and busy parents and then there's the health issues, I sympathize. That being said if an update for a side character takes you 2 years I'm not paying you. That's not to say they owe me results as a patron, but also I don't owe them money for not delivering. Also, all the cross-promos they did during that time really rubbed me the wrong way. Still, I wish them all the best and am looking forward to future updates for the game.

What cross promos?

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

What cross promos?

Just check their Patreon. They're all over the place.

 

[VenomusPL]

Just check their Patreon. They're all over the place.

Meh, only chek the game on here. Used to vosit their website a few times.

 

[walker188]

Dev has stated today on Discord that a March update is not very likely

Whether you think this game is a scam or not, it's pretty clear that something duplicitous, if not outright nefarious is happening behind the scenes. Either they are deliberately slowing the pace of development or (more likely imo) they have been lying about the amount of work they've put in during the last few months. There just isn't any other explanation for how they've been able to complete 90% of a chapter in around a year, and the remaining 10% takes an entire additional year.

I know people will point out the game is 'free' and while I myself have used this same argument in the past, they are taking donations, misrepresenting (or just lying) about their work status and prioritizing their personal lives over the project that is currently paying a considerable amount of their income. In my mind, the situation has become unethical, if nothing else.

Worst still, is that this project had incredible potential, it was worth investing in. But combine the lack of trust going forward (I know I'll never give them any more money at this point), along with the current pace of development and the ambitious scope and I'll be lucky if if my grandkids get endgame content.

 

[TREXrg]

Whether you think this game is a scam or not, it's pretty clear that something duplicitous, if not outright nefarious is happening behind the scenes. Either they are deliberately slowing the pace of development or (more likely imo) they have been lying about the amount of work they've put in during the last few months. There just isn't any other explanation for how they've been able to complete 90% of a chapter in around a year, and the remaining 10% takes an entire additional year.

I know people will point out the game is 'free' and while I myself have used this same argument in the past, they are taking donations, misrepresenting (or just lying) about their work status and prioritizing their personal lives over the project that is currently paying a considerable amount of their income. In my mind, the situation has become unethical, if nothing else.

Worst still, is that this project had incredible potential, it was worth investing in. But combine the lack of trust going forward (I know I'll never give them any more money at this point), along with the current pace of development and the ambitious scope and I'll be lucky if if my grandkids get endgame content.

Well Patreon was always notorious/famous for not paying for products but directly supporting artist
Only thing i find 'nefarious' is there Close Friend tier for$11.50 per month is

• Receive new game releases before the public

which technicly is not a lie but it could imply early acess

the greatest problem is them working only on one charcter per update i think the should have early acess for patreons
but its there decison live support is much more work and also interacting with people can become harder and toxic
i remember the where active on this thread but not anymore
for me i think, many that what it faster finished have to understand the whining toxisity hate will not help them work faster but more likely them working with no passion
lastly everyone that had to deal with lifes curvballs knows that nearly all thinks become tedious to do

i understand what you mean but only thing that realy would change what and how they do things would be if they lost many patreons but if that would happen i would assum it wolud be likely for them 'really' to abandon the procekt
lastly i want to add if they dont release within the next 5 month there patreons probably will drop them so you only need to wait

 

[McSlut]

I was a passionate patron for about 3 years on this game and progress was always slow, but this update really just killed me. Don't get me wrong, I fully understand the difficulties facing them as both game devs and busy parents and then there's the health issues, I sympathize. That being said if an update for a side character takes you 2 years I'm not paying you. That's not to say they owe me results as a patron, but also I don't owe them money for not delivering. Also, all the cross-promos they did during that time really rubbed me the wrong way. Still, I wish them all the best and am looking forward to future updates for the game.

i feel the same, the devs can develop the game how they want but waiting too long just kills all the excitement for me similiar to STS. it just took too long and it also makes me pessimistic about the future if they don't significantly speed up the pace. life is just too short to wait 2 years for a side character i'm personally not even interested in.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

Whether you think this game is a scam or not, it's pretty clear that something duplicitous, if not outright nefarious is happening behind the scenes. Either they are deliberately slowing the pace of development or (more likely imo) they have been lying about the amount of work they've put in during the last few months. There just isn't any other explanation for how they've been able to complete 90% of a chapter in around a year, and the remaining 10% takes an entire additional year.

I know people will point out the game is 'free' and while I myself have used this same argument in the past, they are taking donations, misrepresenting (or just lying) about their work status and prioritizing their personal lives over the project that is currently paying a considerable amount of their income. In my mind, the situation has become unethical, if nothing else.

Worst still, is that this project had incredible potential, it was worth investing in. But combine the lack of trust going forward (I know I'll never give them any more money at this point), along with the current pace of development and the ambitious scope and I'll be lucky if if my grandkids get endgame content.

I don't think anything nefarious is going on behind the scenes. I think the real problem is that the game has just become too bloated and overly ambitious for two people to realistically handle. That and all their personal problems.