fusibile87

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Jun 28, 2020
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No its not.
Numbers go e.g. from 1047 / 1062 (98.6%)
to 1050 / 1064 (98.7%)
This means they find new things to do, while the % do not move much.
Sooooo... as long as the numbers increase, that 2% can require months, if not years? The final 2% can take longer than the initial 90%.
Yep, sounds like a scam. "Oh, this month i don't want to work. I will increase the numbers and still collect patreon money. Maybe i'll work next month".

He is disgusted with his work?
does this mean he hates the game or he hates the code?
I was joking. A guy said this update was taking so long because the dev is disgusted by the idea of feeding his children with money acquired thanks to porn.
 

mindcrawler

New Member
Oct 4, 2020
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First of all, I must say I love this game. I really do, and I have supported it in the past for little over one year. When the authors announced, they want to do relatively frequent updates (about every 3 months or so), it seemed like a reasonable approach. They however changed that somewhere after v0.4 and since then it is going really south.
The frequency of updates has steadily declined (3months -> 5months -> 7months -> 10months -> 20monts (still unreleased))
And while I do understand, that sh*t can happen, the speed of development does not seem reasonable at all. I have a feeling, they have fallen into the same trap like Summertime Saga, which has so called "tech update" under work for years now.

I really think that when some game gains enough supporters, the goal of the devs and the patrons actually become opposite. Patrons want the great game continuation and devs want the chicken to lay the golden eggs as long as possible, i.e. they have zero motivation to quickly deliver. This is why there is so few finished great games.

Really sad, that this has happened to this game as well..
 

Xupuzulla

Engaged Member
Aug 1, 2022
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First of all, I must say I love this game. I really do, and I have supported it in the past for little over one year. When the authors announced, they want to do relatively frequent updates (about every 3 months or so), it seemed like a reasonable approach. They however changed that somewhere after v0.4 and since then it is going really south.
The frequency of updates has steadily declined (3months -> 5months -> 7months -> 10months -> 20monts (still unreleased))
And while I do understand, that sh*t can happen, the speed of development does not seem reasonable at all. I have a feeling, they have fallen into the same trap like Summertime Saga, which has so called "tech update" under work for years now.

I really think that when some game gains enough supporters, the goal of the devs and the patrons actually become opposite. Patrons want the great game continuation and devs want the chicken to lay the golden eggs as long as possible, i.e. they have zero motivation to quickly deliver. This is why there is so few finished great games.

Really sad, that this has happened to this game as well..
Normal patreon milking is going 6-12 months without a update,19 months that is going to turn to 20+ soon is just obscene...
 

fusibile87

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Jun 28, 2020
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I really think that when some game gains enough supporters, the goal of the devs and the patrons actually become opposite. Patrons want the great game continuation and devs want the chicken to lay the golden eggs as long as possible, i.e. they have zero motivation to quickly deliver. This is why there is so few finished great games.
Well said
 

J_M

Member
Oct 8, 2017
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I really think that when some game gains enough supporters, the goal of the devs and the patrons actually become opposite. Patrons want the great game continuation and devs want the chicken to lay the golden eggs as long as possible, i.e. they have zero motivation to quickly deliver. This is why there is so few finished great games.
Best reason for the supporters to pay the developer per update and not monthly.
Is the developer delivering the goods? Yes! Brilliant, here's some money for your work, thank you; No update? Too bad, no cash for you...
 

Rolo

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Jul 14, 2017
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Best reason for the supporters to pay the developer per update and not monthly....
And if the dev dont do that: there is a possibility very close to that.

I stopped to support some devs on Patreon lately, and I was asked if I want to stay as a "non-paying-member". I clicked "Yes".

Like that I get all the news about updates and progress, and when I want to support again, I do so.
When I cancel, I choose: "I wanted to support only with a certain amount of money, and now I did so".

Everyone has his responsibility about his own decisions.
No one is forced to be someone who is "milked".
Those who want to support, support. That easy.


(I supported a dev who did not deliver for about 2 years - for certain reasons. Since I have gotten so much from them in the past, I gladly wanted them to "survive" - although it was just 1€, but I wanted to set a sign).
 
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J_M

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Oct 8, 2017
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Patreon should reinforce that. Of course this premise is surreal as it would severely limit their income.
 
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Best reason for the supporters to pay the developer per update and not monthly.
Is the developer delivering the goods? Yes! Brilliant, here's some money for your work, thank you; No update? Too bad, no cash for you...
Is there a developer out there that actually bills per update? Sounds like a unicorn, no cap.
 

Rolo

Well-Known Member
Jul 14, 2017
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Is there a developer out there that actually bills per update? Sounds like a unicorn, no cap.
I know several.
There are also some who stop billing for one or more months, when they take a break or the update takes longer than expected.

What is "no cap" ?
 

bratkoratko

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Jan 11, 2023
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Patreon should reinforce that. Of course this premise is surreal as it would severely limit their income.
As you already basically said Patreon doesn't give a crap about its "donors"/customers they just want piece of the pie as long as you dont host some degenerative shit which would lower their reputation as a platform...thats like expecting twitch and onlyfans to suddenly start caring about addicted social outcast who bring the most cash on the table
 
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