I'll just reiterate what I said months ago. At this point, we can't really judge whether or not the developers are justified with their delay until the next update released. The longer the wait however, the higher the quality of the next update need to be to win back people that supported this game
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That's why I always add the total polished, which makes it:
(631+1074)/(716+1076) = 0.95, so 95 % finished.
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It's not like it really matters but you know there are numbers that come after 9 right? Like 0.10 and 0.11, it's only when you reach a sort of final version of the game with all the main content included that we get a 1.0 version. Of course it's not like there is some "dev rules book" that every game needs to follow but I just wanted to point out that 3 new version are not enough to reach that "final" version so you may want to go back to your prediction of release date and add that factor.
I don't want to go into personal issues. Everyone has its owns and will never consider a game a priority versus hillness, maternity or whatever, but:
0.1 release May 2020
0.2 releae July 2020
0.3 releae September 2020
0.4 release February 2021
0.5 release September 2021
0.6 release July 2022
there were 5 releases of the game in 1 year and 4 months, while 0.7 release is ongoing since almost 2 years
Understood from 0.6 release the choice was for big updates, but for sure now they have founds to speed-up at least the coding and polishing part of th game, and also maybe to seek assistance for some parts of the artworks
Their game, their choice...I was just thinking-out loud that it's a pity that this game may face lost of interest and endanger support for the next one
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There was an old post where autors declared that readmap of tha game was already set and plan to finish with 1.0 version. They didn't exclude additional contents, but main story was planned to end at 1.0. Anyway it was an old post so I cannot know if plans changed.
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Oh no I'm sure they probably want to finish the game at 1.0 what I was saying is that version doesn't mean 10 updates to complete it and that you can make a thousand updates until 1.0 comes out. Don't know what was the plan before but right know there is at least 4 updates in my head that are needed to at least finish what we have now (main story + females "unrelated to main story" storylines) and that doesn't mean that the final version will be 1.1 it can still be 1.0 that all I was trying to explain.
Up to now therey release 01., 0.2, and so on (with eventually some fix like 0.x1, 0.x2, etc), that's why I'm assuming we are having 0.7, 0.8, 0.9 and 1.0, so at least other 4 main updates, probably one main character per chapter
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Just checked their twitter/X account and they had 5 options for update 0.8 apparently, I mean sure they can just make a big update with more than one character or 2 for each one or something and still finish it in 4 updates I just don't believe that will be the case.
Yes, as said I don't know the plans, but probably main plot is set and we can expect at least 4 major updates. For sue they can focus on more than one character (and personally I think would be the best, or at least they can have one main focus, but some contents also for other characters, even some more replay situations, would be good) but considerin how long have been last 2 updates I have some concerns in having multiple characters per update...
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This devs make Ocean look competent, that takes specific talent i guess
Either Maple or Holly (or both) would be amazing
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As far as I know it was exactly Holly who won the patreon poll so 0.8 will indeed be about her.
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I'll just link this comment since everything is explained there. Patrons voted for longer updates starting with 0.4, and the size of each one of those 3 updates has been basically the same as the first 3 combined, with more complex art and coding interactions explaining the progressively longer dev cycles. This time, the raw word count before the polishing phase is said to be about 1/3 of the overall content so far (it will be trimmed down, as explained in the las dev comment). Add a newborn and a bad surgery to the mix, which would grant them about 6 months of paid leave if they were working under contract for a third party, and we are just slightly off their usual schedule, considering the alleged work (and still on it if we are indulgent with the issues that tend to arise when taking care of a newborn 24/7 and the changes this meant in their usual workflow, as they used to work simultaneously and they are now working on turns, which slow things down a little bit as they can't communicate and fix on the spot the issues they detect with each other's work).
About the potential loss of interest, that's relatively true. But you should take into account that a new update will bring new players (and patrons) in, and if devs prove to be trustworthy by releasing a 'quicker' 0.8 update, most of this criticism will be forgotten or at least put away for another year or more. Right now, that may be seen as a big if, for sure, but it's a totally possible outcome, and that potential loss of interest won't be an actual problem at all.
As Kisama has tried to explain, those figures are not natural fraction numbers but just common IT notation. In v0.6.02, the digit before the first period (0) means this is an uncompleted version of the planned full game (which will be v1.0), while the second number (6) indicates the accumulative big update order -meaning there have been 5 big updates before this one; and the third number after the second period (02) means this is the second bugfix for that 6th version. So after the v0.9 they'll release the tenth big update, which will be named v0.10, then they'll release v0.11, and so on, until they release the last update which will be v1.0 anyway, no matter what name had the previous one. So fear not, there are still more than 4 updates to get there.
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Because the whole point is to never bounce back.
Why return to regular updates when people still throw you money for nothing?
This game will never have regular updates unless something major worldwide happens again like the corona pandemic.
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Well, in what disturbed math 0.10 comes after 0.9 ? I never understood these devs that do it like that. 0.1 is the same thing in math as 0.10. In human readable terms, maybe. But the correct way if you want to go from 0 to 1 is 0.01, 0.02... 0.09, 0.1, etc. And there are enough devs here that do that. I guess it's a good indicator on how the dev thinks, as we can see here in this case, by the his extensive knowledge and fast work
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Again, because this is not maths, but a rather common software notation. First block to tell if the software version can be considered a completed work or not (v0, v1, v2...), second block to describe how many main updates have been released in order to complete that work (0.1, 0.2... 0.9, 0.10... 0.34 or whatever), third block to tell apart minor updates and hotfixes (0.1.01, 0.6.02), and there could be even more blocks after that if devs think they are needed to give enough accurate info about how development is going. You can check the 'About' section in any renpy game and see how renpy itself manages its own versions, then demand them to make that numbers 'human readable' (spoiler: they might tell you it's already 'human readable' as long as said human knows what he's looking at, which doesn't seem your caseWell, in what disturbed math 0.10 comes after 0.9 ? I never understood these devs that do it like that. 0.1 is the same thing in math as 0.10. In human readable terms, maybe. But the correct way if you want to go from 0 to 1 is 0.01, 0.02... 0.09, 0.1, etc. And there are enough devs here that do that. I guess it's a good indicator on how the dev thinks, as we can see here in this case, by the his extensive knowledge and fast work
).Why does this game have the abandoned tag? Their patreon shows a work update from 3 days ago (can't see what it says as I'm not a patron). If there hasn't been a new update to the actual game in more than 6 months, then I kind of get it.
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Yes, the site rule is any games which go more than 18 months without an update get an "abandoned" tag, regardless of whether they are still actively being worked on.