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So it looks like my projection was a little bit off...
So it looks like my projection was a little bit off...
Hi moskyx -Maybe we are getting honest feedback from devs but some people just refuse to believe them
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I get that, I know the type. And you failed to mention those other users who don't even care about getting their free sex cartoons and simply find their fun in posting these accusations to get a dozen reactions from fellow haters and maybe feel they triggered me or other fans. The thing is that, when I post the official info shared by the devs and my own vision and insight on this game's development, I'm not actually talking to them, but to anyone else who might casually find the thread and might get the false impression that this game is what these users claim. Which is not. It doesn't really get me and I'll keep going until mods kick me out of here. But thanks for your words. I really appreciate it.Hi moskyx -
I haven't made a serious post in over a year, but your ongoing efforts to be a voice of reason made me want to suggest this to you: save your breath.
It's clear to me that the people that complain the most about this project don't understand what the concept of "patronage" really means, don't understand that patronage isn't transactional and aren't themselves contributing.
The idea that a very small project team can deliver updates like a weekly TV show is absurd, and all anyone has to do is compare these kinds of projects to "triple-A" games or even non-game software such as business software. I'm in the software business and the fact that people that have no financial investment in this little hobby project complain as if they were EA or Ubisoft is borderline delusional. Disney, Epic Games and George R.R. Martin miss targets by years, and yet "MagicNuts" are accused of being some kind of Machiavellian geniuses, ripping off people one dollar at a time. This is preposterous.
Look at my account - I contribute to a number of projects, I get a statement every month and, like almost everyone with a mobile phone, get alerts every time something is deducted from my bank accounts. Everyone can watch every penny coming into and out of their accounts so the idea that I'm being "ripping off a dollar at a time" is a logic fallacy. No, the real problem is:
Thirsty non-patrons are angry that they're not getting their free sex cartoons as quickly as they want them. There are posts in this thread, and other threads, where non-patrons blame people that support "slow" developers for screwing them out of content. "Ur payin dem to not do nuttin" is their cry and...
I. Don't. Care.
My patronage is a way of saying thanks for something that I enjoyed, or are currently enjoying and, unless the developer solicited patronage based on performance claims, I don't give a damn if and when another installment/chapter/whatever comes out.
I do not, and will not, provide support to developers as an incentive to release "more" content "faster" and, if I'm being completely honest, there are comments in some game threads (including this one) that make me want to pay them to NOT develop games.
So save your breath - they're not looking at these projects realistically, they don't give a rat's ass about the developer and there's nothing you or I can do to change that.
The people can complain as much as they want its been 2 years and this game and 90% of others would not be anywhere without these complainers on f95 so they have as much right as anybody. Its silly to think that there should be no negative feedback to such a delay idc if your a big company or a mom and pop shop .Hi moskyx -
I haven't made a serious post in over a year, but your ongoing efforts to be a voice of reason made me want to suggest this to you: save your breath.
It's clear to me that the people that complain the most about this project don't understand what the concept of "patronage" really means, don't understand that patronage isn't transactional and aren't themselves contributing.
The idea that a very small project team can deliver updates like a weekly TV show is absurd, and all anyone has to do is compare these kinds of projects to "triple-A" games or even non-game software such as business software. I'm in the software business and the fact that people that have no financial investment in this little hobby project complain as if they were EA or Ubisoft is borderline delusional. Disney, Epic Games and George R.R. Martin miss targets by years, and yet "MagicNuts" are accused of being some kind of Machiavellian geniuses, ripping off people one dollar at a time. This is preposterous.
Look at my account - I contribute to a number of projects, I get a statement every month and, like almost everyone with a mobile phone, get alerts every time something is deducted from my bank accounts. Everyone can watch every penny coming into and out of their accounts so the idea that I'm being "ripping off a dollar at a time" is a logic fallacy. No, the real problem is:
Thirsty non-patrons are angry that they're not getting their free sex cartoons as quickly as they want them. There are posts in this thread, and other threads, where non-patrons blame people that support "slow" developers for screwing them out of content. "Ur payin dem to not do nuttin" is their cry and...
I. Don't. Care.
My patronage is a way of saying thanks for something that I enjoyed, or are currently enjoying and, unless the developer solicited patronage based on performance claims, I don't give a damn if and when another installment/chapter/whatever comes out.
I do not, and will not, provide support to developers as an incentive to release "more" content "faster" and, if I'm being completely honest, there are comments in some game threads (including this one) that make me want to pay them to NOT develop games.
So save your breath - they're not looking at these projects realistically, they don't give a rat's ass about the developer and there's nothing you or I can do to change that.
55% in the drain when using patreon? That much?Maybe we are getting honest feedback from devs but some people just refuse to believe them
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no, the 55% is the complete package as in tax, patreon cut's, insurance and so on.55% in the drain when using patreon? That much?
Yeah I know, but I thought it was more like 30/40% maximum at the end, not more than half.no, the 55% is the complete package as in tax, patreon cut's, insurance and so on.
The progress is also posted for free on their website:People vent when they're not happy, it's just human nature. Big long lectures about how they're not entitled to the game if they didn't pay for it etc. aren't gonna change how they feel.
For two years people invested their time (if not their money) into enjoying this game across 5 episodes. Then nothing for 2 years.
It's a common trend for AVN developers to slow down, burn out, cut and run etc. after several releases. So of course people are cynical.
I'm also curious. At least up to March anyone could go to the Patreon page and look at the progress status. But now you have to subscribe to see the status, what's that shit all about...
Ah yeah, that'd be my retardedness, that's probably where I looked last time...The progress is also posted for free on their website:You must be registered to see the links
Ever wonder how devs get away with working fixing bugs in a renpy game for two months?Hi moskyx -
I haven't made a serious post in over a year, but your ongoing efforts to be a voice of reason made me want to suggest this to you: save your breath.
It's clear to me that the people that complain the most about this project don't understand what the concept of "patronage" really means, don't understand that patronage isn't transactional and aren't themselves contributing.
The idea that a very small project team can deliver updates like a weekly TV show is absurd, and all anyone has to do is compare these kinds of projects to "triple-A" games or even non-game software such as business software. I'm in the software business and the fact that people that have no financial investment in this little hobby project complain as if they were EA or Ubisoft is borderline delusional. Disney, Epic Games and George R.R. Martin miss targets by years, and yet "MagicNuts" are accused of being some kind of Machiavellian geniuses, ripping off people one dollar at a time. This is preposterous.
Look at my account - I contribute to a number of projects, I get a statement every month and, like almost everyone with a mobile phone, get alerts every time something is deducted from my bank accounts. Everyone can watch every penny coming into and out of their accounts so the idea that I'm being "ripping off a dollar at a time" is a logic fallacy. No, the real problem is:
Thirsty non-patrons are angry that they're not getting their free sex cartoons as quickly as they want them. There are posts in this thread, and other threads, where non-patrons blame people that support "slow" developers for screwing them out of content. "Ur payin dem to not do nuttin" is their cry and...
I. Don't. Care.
My patronage is a way of saying thanks for something that I enjoyed, or are currently enjoying and, unless the developer solicited patronage based on performance claims, I don't give a damn if and when another installment/chapter/whatever comes out.
I do not, and will not, provide support to developers as an incentive to release "more" content "faster" and, if I'm being completely honest, there are comments in some game threads (including this one) that make me want to pay them to NOT develop games.
So save your breath - they're not looking at these projects realistically, they don't give a rat's ass about the developer and there's nothing you or I can do to change that.
Yeah, asking for updates to take less than two years is totally unrealistic....So save your breath - they're not looking at these projects realistically, they don't give a rat's ass about the developer and there's nothing you or I can do to change that.
Hey, don't be a fucking racist. Pussy is pussy. Tiddies are tiddies.it's also the worst fucking update featuring some green goblin girl instead of a fucking big titty human.
When they first released the progress tracker I could see this update was going to be their longest development to complete yet (honestly didn't think it would be this long though) and suggested it would be better to release it in 2 parts. It's too late to change for this update but in future if the planning stage shows a large amount of tasks. Hopefully they'll consider breaking it into smaller parts and try to release something every 6 to 12 months.They could release first quest last year and now the second one. This way people wouldt be so mad.
We're 2 and a half month's since the last release and looking at their progress tracker I'd estimate it'll be over a year before 0.7 releases. I really hope they split this release in 2 parts so they can have something to show early next year.
If they don't this thread will become unbearable with all the milking lurkers that show up every 6 to 8 months.