What are your main frustrations in erotic visual novel games?

[OppaiMan.com]

Hi!

I'm curious to understand what are YOUR main frustrations when you play a visual novel game, or when you become a supporter in Patreon.
Do you fear the game might be abandoned, or that the new releases will be bad, or that it will take too long for the next chapter?

 

[Ataios]

Too few lesbian games. Often lesbian scenes and storylines end in MFF threesomes, which is like pouring cold water on your dick. Teenage boy protagonists smaller than their moms. Boring contemporary settings, the worst thereof are school settings.

Personally I care less about the technical stuff, so I'd certainly rather play a buggy incomplete game about a mysterious woman seducing a busty milf into bdsm in a cyberpunk world than a technically perfect complete game about a teenage nerd and his cheerleader sister living in an American suburb in 2020.

 

[Hadley]

- Girls with huge Tits.
- Way too many Girls.
- Not enough focus on developing a Relationship.

I like when Games have like 1-3 Girls and focus on them instead of giving you the option of 10 Girls but all the relationships are super shallow because there is not enough time to focus on a single girl.

I just want realistic Games, so Models looking somewhat realistic are a big thing. If I see Games where your innocent "18" year old sister has huge DD tits, I just have to facepalm.

Developers should keep it simple. There don't need to be Gameplay or any stuff like that. If people want to have Gameplay, they play some high-budget Games.

Adult-VN Devs should focus on stuff that AAA-Games can't give: A good Romance/Love Story with some naughty scenes.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

Too little variety in character models. It wouldn't hurt to have different levels of attractiveness. When everyone is a 10/10, no one is.

Annoying fixation on huge boobs and dicks. I'll never understand why. Even if these sizes were ideal (which is very subjective), having too much of it devalues them.

VN "gameplay" that amounts to collecting red points and green/blue points. Especially when the scenes that require a certain amount of red/blue/green points also reward more of them (looking at you, AWAM). Having some kind of gameplay helps to keep me engaged, but this is just bad design.

 

[Prokopije]

Lack of choices in unforgivable "sin" and any kind of mandatory sexual content.
Thousands of times chewed and spitted out cliches. "After your father went missing you return to your old home". Seriously, it's instant addon to ignore list nowadays. Also, lot of lesbo/bi stuff is bad thing. Oversized body parts, especially "mellons", major turn off, as well... Choiceless sandbox... that abomination should be forbiden by law... Same goes for fake choices...
In general, I "fear" that game will went in "undesired direction" after a while. For example, "No more secrets" game, it started well, everything was optional, than after 5th or 6th update, there was tons of forced, unavoidable erotic situations with certain characters which completely ruined game. And that's just one example...

 

[Benji13]

For me there are two "fears" or things I don't like on many games.

First I also add the "melon"-tits fraction. I never understand why so many people like them (at least that is what you must think by seeing how many games have these extremely oversized breasts). For me that is for some time already the first thing I check: All women with big tits -> closing the tab immediately; no chance to show if it has a good story or anything other positiv.
If there are girls with big tits too, then it's ok, but only them is an instant no go for me. In my opinion they are just ugly, but that's how it is for me.

Second would be missing scenes. Why do developers think, that someone wants to skip through dozens of scenes to be sure to get all scenes? If you want to make a story with real decissions and different outcomes: do it. But give us the opportunity to see the other scenes without going trough big parts (or worse - start from the far beginning) of the game again. Some games you have to play several times if you want to see everything. And hopefully you can skip. Not all engines support skipping.
A gallery is an option. But I would prefer if there is an dialog where you can choose what you want to see.
Mao-Sama is a good example for this - at least for the first week. For the second week they decided to add an opaque point-system where you often don't even know if you are missing something. Played it at least 10 times to find out, that most decissions don't change anything but some minor dialogs. But some decisions gave you more scenes. And it wasn't obvious what decision leads to the extra scenes. Again: Why? That's no fun. Or are there people liking it to try every possible dialogue-combination in a porn(!) game?

I think that are my biggest cons for games on this site.
Oh, and finding the next good game after ending the last one ^^

 

[woody554]

these threads always turn into a random collection of personal preferences rather than useful (or representative) structural observations, but what the hell lets go:

early sex and spoiler dream content.
retarded little sisters who don't know how to masturbate.
pedo-baits that are said to be '18'. we can see the body, it's a child. number changes nothing.
megadicks. seriously, no one likes them. no. one.
stroke-face 'horny pose' with tongue out. your character looks like a stroke victim, not horny. tiny thing, drives me mad.

lack of emotion and tenderness in characters that supposedly care for you. smile, touch the arm, tear up.

no penetrating dry. it's fine in fantasy to not detail all preparation, but don't ram a dick into a dry hole and tell she likes it. it just makes us think the writer is a virgin who never had sex.

overexplaining. one of the good things about the badly written engrish games is they don't explain shit. it's only us amateur writers who ramble on page after page of narration, repeating obvious visual information and detailed description of our day job which no one gives a shit about. it doesn't sell the character, only emotional insights sell the characters. or anything really.

putting me inside the head of love interests and letting me choose what they do. "leave the shower door open" NO!

a lot of repetitions without feedback of progress. grind is fine, but we must know if we're getting somewhere or are stuck in a loop forever. we can't know if we need 25pts to fuck the milf or 1600pts, but we will repeat just in case and hate you forever if it turns out everything after 30pts was wasted effort.

 

[SAMASH112]

Teenage boy protagonists smaller than their moms. Boring contemporary settings, the worst thereof are school settings.

Yeah, I get it . Typical spaghetti bodied hero boy who fucks everything hole he sees, including the whole family and the neighborhood. For me it's not a frustration but repetitive and a big pain in the ass. I already try to avoid downloading those kind of games

 

[Fliptoynk]

ridiculous oversized boobs and exaggerated hour glass figure

I've seen sooooooo many models with B.E.Autiful faces totally totaled by baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad morphing. if the dev fancies huge tits then fine, do it BUT make it proportional!!! they should be either curvy or BBW! not 44-24-40!!!

 

[Agent HK47]

One of my biggest gripes, is when a developer starts the all too known (and dreaded) "Remake" or "Remaster." Okay, your skills might have been lacking when you started your game and the early parts of the game is not showcasing how good you have recently become. But we all know how that the odds of a remaster/remake are worse than the odds of a happy marriage.

Even if your game is lacking a bit, why not just put in a disclaimer at the start of the game, telling people that the quality improves as the game progresses. Why do we suddenly have to go from hours of content, to 3 and a half minutes? I must tell you, I ain't gonna stick around for 2 more years, just to get back to where we left off.
You can show your new and improved skills, by giving your game a complete make-over WHEN THE GAME IS FUCKING DONE! Or just make a new game and give us a taste of how much better you are at game #2, than you were with game #1. It shows commitment and focus. Mid-way Remasters/remakes just shows lack of faith in yourself and lack of commitment.

In short, if your game goes from "0.9" to "0.1: Remastered" or something like that, then I am gone! I have simply lost all kind of faith in this entire practise.

 

[tGolden]

Like what many said in here before the lack of real choices. a lot of the time its just an affection meter that goes up or down nothing that could completely lock you out of a route or that has any meaningful impact to the story. Biggest sin is when the game is focused on the story rather then the lewd and yet it still doesn't do anything like that.

 

[God3333]

The main things that annoy me are:
1)Girls with tits that have their own gravitational pull: Like boobs that are just massive and way too big.
2)1-3 renders switching back animations: These are like pseudo animations where the renders change at like 15fps back and forth to try to make it seem animated.
3)NoClip during animation: This is a bit annoying, but it can't really be helped. This is where you can see that body parts are unnaturally going into each other during animations.
4)Poor and unimaginative story writing: For some people just seeing a picture is enough to get them off, but for me there needs to be a story, a build up. This needs to be done right. I'm not asking you to become a author, but just try to do some more narrative writing, make things seem logical, not just "She saw my dick, she suck me now".
5) Illogical mc pussy magnet: The mc will more than often manage to go from no female interaction to bedding everyone in a 1.2 mile radius, it's stupid.
6) Leechy devs: these devs are the kind to charge for no update or charge for a bug fix every 10 years.

 

[Deleted member 1121028]

People that took porn as a placebo for their own solitude and create such thread.

 

[Loganfin]

For me there are two "fears" or things I don't like on many games.

First I also add the "melon"-tits fraction. I never understand why so many people like them (at least that is what you must think by seeing how many games have these extremely oversized breasts). For me that is for some time already the first thing I check: All women with big tits -> closing the tab immediately; no chance to show if it has a good story or anything other positiv.
If there are girls with big tits too, then it's ok, but only them is an instant no go for me. In my opinion they are just ugly, but that's how it is for me.

Its funny, and I had to respond because I'm the exact polar opposite. I'm really mostly attracted to women with big tits and curves that go with them, and when I see a game where all of the girls are skinny and flat, I just don't bother. I'm not attracted to them whatsoever, and it can be a struggle to get through the game when they're there, even if there are other women that I find to be hot. There are certainly games I've seen where I think to myself "Man, I love that idea and that could be awesome if the character models were all different!".

I'm certainly down with some of the women in a game being very athletic with average sized tits. But the really slim ones with no curves? Yikes, no!

Now that doesn't mean that I'm saying you're wrong! Far from it, we should each have our own preferences and be proud and honest about it! But its funny sometimes how different people can be.

 

[khumak]

Its funny, and I had to respond because I'm the exact polar opposite. I'm really mostly attracted to women with big tits and curves that go with them, and when I see a game where all of the girls are skinny and flat, I just don't bother. I'm not attracted to them whatsoever, and it can be a struggle to get through the game when they're there, even if there are other women that I find to be hot. There are certainly games I've seen where I think to myself "Man, I love that idea and that could be awesome if the character models were all different!".

I'm certainly down with some of the women in a game being very athletic with average sized tits. But the really slim ones with no curves? Yikes, no!

Now that doesn't mean that I'm saying you're wrong! Far from it, we should each have our own preferences and be proud and honest about it! But its funny sometimes how different people can be.

For me it depends. I definitely am turned off by over exaggerated proportions. Giant tits and a huge ass do nothing for me. I also really don't want to play an adult game with girls who look like they're 12. Flat chested is fine if it's a really athletic build. For instance this girl is flatter than I would normally prefer but the rest of her physique makes up for it IMO.

Women who are fit enough to have a low body fat percentage are always going to have smaller tits unless they have implants.

 

[Deleted member 1121028]

For me it depends. I definitely am turned off by over exaggerated proportions. Giant tits and a huge ass do nothing for me. I also really don't want to play an adult game with girls who look like they're 12. Flat chested is fine if it's a really athletic build. For instance this girl is flatter than I would normally prefer but the rest of her physique makes up for it IMO.

Women who are fit enough to have a low body fat percentage are always going to have smaller tits unless they have implants.

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[ThePlumpWolfie]

I want more where u play as the woman
i feel unrepresented so much like i dont want to play as a boy there want to fuck anything there breaths
i want to play as my own gender while i start off innocent with some characther creation so u can decide if u want to have huge breasts or not

 

[Shaitan22305]

Rampant pedo like content. Like I get that it is fiction so we can create a 12 year old body and mind and just say "Yeah they are 18". Still doesn't make it right in my opinion. I work with someone who is 21 and petite and being attracted to her is fine. But you know what she doesn't have? A lack of mental maturity or a child like mind, a grade school life, and a relationship with relatives that signal her age as being underage. Yet so many games have this. It is not ok, and if that what you are attracted to and your using games to live those fantasies then you need professional help. You can make mentally mature petite adults and that is fine. That is not the norm though. That includes like middle school age male protagonists reliving the ever popular school teacher or family fantasies. It is so refreshing to find a game that has college age characters or god forbid adults. It's gross but the community would have to start caring about it I guess.

 

[desmosome]

Rampant pedo like content. Like I get that it is fiction so we can create a 12 year old body and mind and just say "Yeah they are 18". Still doesn't make it right in my opinion. I work with someone who is 21 and petite and being attracted to her is fine. But you know what she doesn't have? A lack of mental maturity or a child like mind, a grade school life, and a relationship with relatives that signal her age as being underage. Yet so many games have this. It is not ok, and if that what you are attracted to and your using games to live those fantasies then you need professional help. You can make mentally mature petite adults and that is fine. That is not the norm though. That includes like middle school age male protagonists reliving the ever popular school teacher or family fantasies. It is so refreshing to find a game that has college age characters or god forbid adults. It's gross but the community would have to start caring about it I guess.

What about those psychos playing first person shooters? Do they need professional help? Surely, killing human beings is just as bad as diddling kids.

 

[Losersriot]

Rampant pedo like content. Like I get that it is fiction so we can create a 12 year old body and mind and just say "Yeah they are 18". Still doesn't make it right in my opinion. I work with someone who is 21 and petite and being attracted to her is fine. But you know what she doesn't have? A lack of mental maturity or a child like mind, a grade school life, and a relationship with relatives that signal her age as being underage. Yet so many games have this. It is not ok, and if that what you are attracted to and your using games to live those fantasies then you need professional help. You can make mentally mature petite adults and that is fine. That is not the norm though. That includes like middle school age male protagonists reliving the ever popular school teacher or family fantasies. It is so refreshing to find a game that has college age characters or god forbid adults. It's gross but the community would have to start caring about it I guess.

I have not seen any games about kids and teenagers on this site. Game developers are teenagers themselves and do not know anatomy. Therefore, all their teenagers and kids look like sexually mature dwarfs. Developers are not able to correctly depict the proportions of women's legs. And you say that they know how to depict the proportions of the body of teenagers ? This is ridiculous.