What do you look for in a Mind control game?

[YetAnotherAnon99]

When playing a game (of any genre) with Mind control as it's main theme, what do you look for in it?

Do you like your mind control being temporary, or are you a fan of more permanent control over a target?

What kind of control do you like? (Unaware, common sense change, completely mindless, etc.)

I'm very interested in what people look for in their Mind Control games!

 

[YetAnotherAnon99]

I'll start things off by saying what I look for!

I love it when mind control games have meaningful consequences for your actions and plenty of interactions with mind controlled characters.

I like it when games give you a proper sense of control over characters and really makes you feel like you're the one in control.

I like mind control when it's more permanent rather than one-off hypnosis, it gives more meaning to the mind control.

My favorite kind of control is easily Mindless, I just love it when a character's entire being is reduced to unquestioningly following orders.

I'd love to hear what everyone else has to say!

 

[Icarus Media]

I'm gonna hazard a guess that the answer to your question is: Mind Control.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

Non-con mindbreak: As a substitute for rape as a way to dominate an opponent, Overwhored does it well, though the scenes are on the short side. I don't think I've seen that elsewhere either.

Hypno without consent / drugging without consent / drunkenness and other short-term mental changes: Does nothing for me, I'd rather not see it and I really hate it as an engine for the corruption.

Surreptitious long-tem mind-control: Can be done well, but not if it's used lazily. It has to be incremental and follow fixed rules. It should also not be the exclusive driver for the corruption. Star Knightess Aura is one of very few games that do it well because it damn well takes its time, follows its own rules and the mental changes have to be supported with lots of gaslighting and social engineering.

Mind-control with consent: I can't think of any examples, but I'd like to see it done well in a dubcon scenario. E.g. agreeing to have a fetish implanted in exchange for settling a debt, or something like that. There's BMO TV I guess, but it fails at making the characters and their reactions feel believable.

Emotionless doll: Not good for me in any scenario.

 

[Doorknob22]

My two cents: mind control games (or erotic stories) are incredibly hard to pull off successfully because in their core they work against what makes an interesting story in the first place: meeting an obstacle and overcoming it. If your MC can easily overcome the the obstacle of "she doesn't want to got o bed with me" then he simply meets girls and fucks them, there is no story here.

 

[bggf]

i think it's important to make the control more gradual, as opposed to basically having them do what you want from the start, like more of an"influence" than flat out mind control until you eventually reach the mindless control of the person.

i also like it when the increase of control over the person has an influence on their speech appearance and clothing, the type of which can be decided by you ofc

 

[NeonSelf]

It was done pretty good in Corruption by Mr C:

- Use potions to slowly change girls over time.
- Remove her limitations
- Change her clothes
- Make her obey commands at first and then make her addicted to your attention. She should actively seek opportunities to please you in every posible way.

 

[woody554]

My two cents: mind control games (or erotic stories) are incredibly hard to pull off successfully because in their core they work against what makes an interesting story in the first place: meeting an obstacle and overcoming it. If your MC can easily overcome the the obstacle of "she doesn't want to got o bed with me" then he simply meets girls and fuck them, there is no story here.

I was just thinking the same. although when the OP brought up "temporary mind-control", it made me think of incomplete and failing mind-control to get around that drama problem. sort of like how time-machine stories can't work unless the machine breaks at the worst moment, you'd have mind-control with high risk and constant malfunctioning you'd have to deal with to survive.

but I'm pretty sure that's not what mind-control fans want from it. it's not enough.

the again, the game could still have that ultimate level of reaching total control, there just would be loads of play before getting there. I think it would make winning more impactful for them as well.

 

[Logan1377]

It was done pretty good in Corruption by Mr C:

- Use potions to slowly change girls over time.
- Remove her limitations
- Change her clothes
- Make her obey commands at first and then make her addicted to your attention. She should actively seek opportunities to please you in every posible way.

I really like the broad idea of corruption, and I love its sandbox setup. Convincing various women throughout the game's world to become lewder and lewder, wear less and more revealing clothing, and have progressively more a more wild and public sex is absolutely fantastic. Whether that comes through some sort of mind control, potions, the help of gods or demons, what have you.

But the game is too harsh and I'm not a fan of how poorly it encourages you to treat people. I'm much more into a tone where the MC is happy and excited to use his abilities to corrupt and fuck as many women as possible, and get them to behave in wild ways that they probably wouldn't have on their own, but in a more positive, friendly way that doesn't hurt anyone.

One that does that a bit better IMO is Dark Magic, which is one of my favorite games on here, and is absolutely huge. It has a few issues itself and jumps through some silly hoops to ensure the extreme harem world that its set in, but overall I really enjoy it, and gradually corrupting all of the women and then going through their stories is really well done.

 

[HarveyD]

I like Mind Control. Not Mind Gently Influence.

 

[desmosome]

I really like the broad idea of corruption, and I love its sandbox setup. Convincing various women throughout the game's world to become lewder and lewder, wear less and more revealing clothing, and have progressively more a more wild and public sex is absolutely fantastic. Whether that comes through some sort of mind control, potions, the help of gods or demons, what have you.

But the game is too harsh and I'm not a fan of how poorly it encourages you to treat people. I'm much more into a tone where the MC is happy and excited to use his abilities to corrupt and fuck as many women as possible, and get them to behave in wild ways that they probably wouldn't have on their own, but in a more positive, friendly way that doesn't hurt anyone.

One that does that a bit better IMO is Dark Magic, which is one of my favorite games on here, and is absolutely huge. It has a few issues itself and jumps through some silly hoops to ensure the extreme harem world that its set in, but overall I really enjoy it, and gradually corrupting all of the women and then going through their stories is really well done.

I'm the opposite. I hate the softcore happy mind control or romance mind control. It's delusional to frame using unnatural means to alter someone's mind into giving you sex as something remotely positive. It's inherently gonna be reprehensible rapeyness and/or sad incel vibes. You are not doing someone favors by "liberating" them without their knowledge/consent.

So I like when MCs are honest about their motivations. It's a selfish and horny action to get what they want.

 

[Logan1377]

I'm the opposite. I hate the softcore happy mind control or romance mind control. It's delusional to frame using unnatural means to alter someone's mind into giving you sex as something remotely positive. It's inherently gonna be reprehensible rapeyness and/or sad incel vibes. You are not doing someone favors by "liberating" them without their knowledge/consent.

So I like when MCs are honest about their motivations. It's a selfish and horny action to get what they want.

I have no interest in getting too real with my erotica. For me, its all a happy fantasy. I never, ever want anything that's sexy to be unpleasant or sad.

 

[woody554]

You are not doing someone favors by "liberating" them without their knowledge/consent.

you are of course right in everything you said, but the 'good guy' aspect also allows for an additional level of evil 'cat & mouse' manipulation which the straightforward total mind-control skips. and it also allows for writing a more twisted delusional MC who thinks he's a good guy while raping everyone.

 

[chainedpanda]

I like the manipulation and corruption aspects of it. Being able to transform someone into what you want them to be is interesting to me. So, I like to see the gradual transition from what they were to what they can be. I don't care for mind control that just forces them to do or be something instantly, nor those that cause the victim to return to normal/forget about everything.

An ideal MC game for me would be relatively a slow burn. We gradually watch the characters change overtime, perhaps even witness their subconsciousness fight these changes or even take a drastic turn in an unintended direction.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I'm very interested in what people look for in their Mind Control games!

I find many things to be quite interesting in mind control kink.

*Making some cheeky slut act as my living furniture and loving it certainly gets me hot.
*The brainwashing process itself that leads to someone's mind being controlled in the first place can also be quite fun.
*Partial-control is fun as well, like making them unable to do something they want to do real bad (like making them horny as fuck and forbidding masturbation, then leaving them to stew in their own lust until they crawl to you and beg to get them off) or forcing them to continue doing something (like making them masturbate non-stop til they lose it) even if they really don't want to do that.
*Unfeeling dolls can be fun as well but this gets boring quickly, there is no reaction from those after all. But some people are into that.
*Perception alteration, like making them believe that walking around naked is normal.
*Memory manipulation, like maybe making them believe that you're their long-lost father/mother could be quite interesting, in all sorts of ways.

There is actually an absolute shitton of scenarios you can pull with mind control and brainwashing that leads to it.
It's just that many devs have very poor imagination and creativity, so they have a hard time figuring out unique and interesting scenarios.

Most of them can only figure:
'I pull hypno-phone outa my ass and use it on that chick, now my PeePee goes in this here hole, the end.'

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

You are not doing someone favors by "liberating" them without their knowledge/consent.

Really? I can think of at least one scenario where the intent is positive, at least initially positive.
For example what if we got some really suicidal chick and no matter who does what to help her she inevitably always tries to commit suicide? Can you then say with absolute certainty that you're not doing her any favors by forcing her to stop it?

In this kind of scenario you can use mind control/brainwashing as a means to 'fix' someone.
So i think this piece of wisdom applies here: Power does not define who you are, it's how you use that power.
Therefore becoming a hero while having and making use of seemingly-evil power is not out of the question i'd say.

I even encountered similarly done scenarios in anime and manga, where the protagonist saves others by using his power to forcefully command them 'to live.'

 

[woody554]

Really? I can think of at least one scenario where the intent is positive, at least initially positive.
For example what if we got some really suicidal chick and no matter who does what to help her she inevitably always tries to commit suicide? Can you then say with absolute certainty that you're not doing her any favors by forcing her to stop it?

I think the point was that the suicide girl is only being saved to turn her into a sex slave. the outcome is never gonna be "she got rid of her suicidal tendencies and lived a full life," but instead "she's now chained ass up in the basement getting raped every day until sweet death releases her."

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

I think the point was that the suicide girl is only being saved to turn her into a sex slave. the outcome is never gonna be "she got rid of her suicidal tendencies and lived a full life," but instead "she's now chained ass up in the basement getting raped every day until sweet death releases her."

Sure that's one way it can go, but my point is that it can also go very differently, depending on player choice and on what the dev had in mind and lets you do in their game.

 

[Jaike]

Like most people, I think it's fatal to a good story if the mind control is immediately too strong without an issue. It should be gradual, not total, see Long Live the Princess for examples, or there should be a serious risk of mind control to the MC, as in Nex(e)us Institute. This is a way to maintain or reintroduce actual stakes so the protagonist doesn't feel like a boring invincible god.

 

[desmosome]

you are of course right in everything you said, but the 'good guy' aspect also allows for an additional level of evil 'cat & mouse' manipulation which the straightforward total mind-control skips. and it also allows for writing a more twisted delusional MC who thinks he's a good guy while raping everyone.

If it was deliberately written like that, that's fine. An unreliable protagonist who is living under delusions that the plot actually acknowledges can lead to interesting scenarios.

Really? I can think of at least one scenario where the intent is positive, at least initially positive.
For example what if we got some really suicidal chick and no matter who does what to help her she inevitably always tries to commit suicide? Can you then say with absolute certainty that you're not doing her any favors by forcing her to stop it?

In this kind of scenario you can use mind control/brainwashing as a means to 'fix' someone.
So i think this piece of wisdom applies here: Power does not define who you are, it's how you use that power.
Therefore becoming a hero while having and making use of seemingly-evil power is not out of the question i'd say.

I even encountered similarly done scenarios in anime and manga, where the protagonist saves others by using his power to forcefully command them 'to live.'

If you use your powers for purely selfless acts of good, then there could be an argument for scenarios like the ones you mention. To be truly morally just, you should inform them about your power and what you can do for them though.

But we are talking about mind control in the context of porn games. If you mind control someone "to live, but also become my girlfriend because I am totally a nice guy," that's really sad, selfish, and an incel thing to do, don't you think?