What happened to the lesbian only games?

[CboyC95]

Just recently, one game I have been following, Seraphim Academy, had just been tagged 'abandoned'. The last post from the developer's patreon page was far back as May. Maybe the developer have fallen off the radar or else, I don't know. It seems to be an ongoing trend lately. Most lesbian games, especially the ones in 3D and made in ren'py, either take too long to update and the iron cools or get abandoned by the developers, and there many other games like this. Most games now only focus on playing as female with focus on B/G with some lesbian thrown in, or focus on the male MC with lesbian scenes in it. All I wanted was a lesbian only game with a female protagonist. It's like nobody seems to care about this sort of genre anymore. It's a real shame because lesbian is my favorite sex genre.

 

[HarveyD]

There are a lot of games that get abandoned anyway but yeah none of the lesbian ones get very far. They just dont get as much support as male protag or female corruption games. Which is a shame.

 

[khumak]

Well I think lesbian only is just a smaller market than most devs are willing to develop for. I think it makes more sense to have a lesbian only path in a game that also has other routes to expand your market a bit. I'm a guy and I really like lesbo content in general, but I do prefer there to be some MF content in there as well. It also may just be an issue of most devs being guys and guys just not being as good at doing lesbo content as girls.

 

[lawfullame]

I assume that most adult game players are cis straight males. That's why most developers are targeting this group. Most men like to see some lesbian scene from time to time, but a game focused exclusively on lesbian content would be boring for most men, and probably also for most straight women.
I guess that if a game is solely focused on lesbian content, the developer is a lesbian who creates content according to her preferences, mainly as a hobby, and is aware that the game will not bring much money to her.

 

[Ataios]

Maybe developers think, that they can't compete with other forms of porn like videos and comics or they want their games to have at least some appeal to straight women and/or gay men too. Or they think, male players like some character to relate too, which as a non-immersive player is hard for me to understand.

As a straight man I really get pissed everytime a lesbian scene is ruined by a guy making an MFF threesome of it or when a lesbian scene is just a show for a male MC. Personally I prefer games with no male characters in sex scenes. I could also live well with a game that starts straight to turn lesbian later on though.

 

[khumak]

Maybe developers think, that they can't compete with other forms of porn like videos and comics or they want their games to have at least some appeal to straight women and/or gay men too. Or they think, male players like some character to relate too, which as a non-immersive player is hard for me to understand.

As a straight man I really get pissed everytime a lesbian scene is ruined by a guy making an MFF threesome of it or when a lesbian scene is just a show for a male MC. Personally I prefer games with no male characters in sex scenes. I could also live well with a game that starts straight to turn lesbian later on though.

This goes back to my previous comment for the dev involved. Why not make it a choice? If you want to focus on the lesbo aspect that's fine, but if you want to expand your market a bit add a few spots that do include that MFF threesome that so many guys want. The girls (and guys) wanting the pure lesbo stuff can just pick that option instead. By the same token, for the people who do want the pure lesbo stuff make sure there's a path that people can pick that doesn't involve any dicks...

 

[HarveyD]

This goes back to my previous comment for the dev involved. Why not make it a choice? If you want to focus on the lesbo aspect that's fine, but if you want to expand your market a bit add a few spots that do include that MFF threesome that so many guys want. The girls (and guys) wanting the pure lesbo stuff can just pick that option instead. By the same token, for the people who do want the pure lesbo stuff make sure there's a path that people can pick that doesn't involve any dicks...

The problem with that though is it can snowball. What about players who want this? Or that? The OPs point was about soley lesbian games. A tacked on side path isn't going to be worth it. It's more work for the developer and brings them away from the content they want to be making. Plus it'll annoy fans who are waiting for updates on the "main" path if they think the dev is wasting time on stuff.

Very few games on here ever get finished. Asking more of devs isn't going to help that. Most devs probably need to be doing less higher quality work than more low quality work.

 

[khumak]

The problem with that though is it can snowball. What about players who want this? Or that? The OPs point was about soley lesbian games. A tacked on side path isn't going to be worth it. It's more work for the developer and brings them away from the content they want to be making. Plus it'll annoy fans who are waiting for updates on the "main" path if they think the dev is wasting time on stuff.

Very few games on here ever get finished. Asking more of devs isn't going to help that. Most devs probably need to be doing less higher quality work than more low quality work.

Yeah you don't want to try to include everything. That wasn't my point. You want to stay focused on what you really want in your game but if you know the core of your game has a fairly small market I think it's worth picking 1 or 2 "side paths" that have broader appeal to add. So by all means make the majority of the game pure lesbo, but to draw in some more guys add a side path with a little MFF (or some other fetish that you think has broad appeal, doens't have to be MFF). As long as it's avoidable I would think your core fans should be fine with that.

If you don't care about the size of the market you're apealing to then yeah just make the whole thing pure lesbo or some other niche category. I think most devs want to try and get a decent sized audience though especially if they're hoping to actually make money on their game.

So you don't want to pick a side path that repulses you, you want to enjoy the work you do, but you do want to pick something that has broad appeal to expand your market.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

I'm making a game that has a true lesbian path in it, and I promise it won't be abandoned!
Good news: The first three episodes have already been written!
Not so good news: It won't be out until at least next year!

 

[CboyC95]

I'm making a game that has a true lesbian path in it, and I promise it won't be abandoned!
Good news: The first three episodes have already been written!
Not so good news: It won't be out until at least next year!

Do you at least have a beta of it in the works?

 

[anne O'nymous]

f you want to focus on the lesbo aspect that's fine, but if you want to expand your market a bit add a few spots that do include that MFF threesome that so many guys want.

Don't know if I'm an exception or not, but when it come to female MC, I always stick as much as possible to the lesbian only route.
I play games for their stories (yes, I also read the articles in Playboy), and I really dislike the way authors generally treat their female MC ; why should they all become pure whore in less than one week ? Anyway, if at this time I wanted to see dicks, I would have played one of the many games with a male MC, not the one with a female MC.

 

[Sphere42]

why should they all become pure whore in less than one week ?

What? A whole week to grind to pure whore status?!

To me the greater issue is that many of those games already do include an "alternate path", but said path tends to be "clueless pure innocent virgin" rather than having any kind of sexual experience or agency. Worst case the virgin end simply unlocks all those nasty rape scenes you fought so hard to avoid all this time. Even if you have a designated lover like in Sword Princess Cistina, why not have the option of taking them on a premature passionate honeymoon world tour before those beautiful places get blown up or whatever the ancient evil wants to do? Modern setting and no world-ending threat available? Even better, invite your LI to the beach or go to any party not hosted by Eric McRapeface!

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Do you at least have a beta of it in the works?

Not yet, unfortunately, it's all just text and concept drawings; all of which I'm not happy with releasing. I've had the input of a real-life lesbian too (yes they really exist outside of porn games).

 

[pasunna]

why should they all become pure whore in less than one week ?

because most audience just want to see porn in porn game
I think can't blame them too
porn is not real life or a love novel
they don't want to watch a slice of life of a girl's life for month or years before porn
and yes those are the main group that support dev on patreon
so the dev don't make game to just serve their taste or charity
the fast whore is the fast way
why not use that?

yes we player have difference of test
but unless we hire the dev by ourselves alone
we can't get what specific we want

 

[khumak]

Don't know if I'm an exception or not, but when it come to female MC, I always stick as much as possible to the lesbian only route.
I play games for their stories (yes, I also read the articles in Playboy), and I really dislike the way authors generally treat their female MC ; why should they all become pure whore in less than one week ? Anyway, if at this time I wanted to see dicks, I would have played one of the many games with a male MC, not the one with a female MC.

I have my preferred paths depending on the game as well, but I don't mind if a game has content that I seriously dislike in it as long as it's easily avoidable. There is some content that I dislike strongly enough that I won't risk it, but for most of it I'll play it if it looks like it has some content that I might like. For instance, not an NTR fan but I'll play NTR games if it looks like there's an option for MC to be a player or for some swinger stuff or whatever. I won't play anything with MM content since any scenes of that nature that I didn't manage to avoid would ruin the whole game for me, but most other things I'll risk it if it looks like the game also has stuff I do like.

 

[anne O'nymous]

because most audience just want to see porn in porn game

I'm not this sure about that. All the polls done here tend to put the story way before the action. And it's not just because people who don't care about the stories also tend to not care about the meta-threads. DarkCookie is, by far, the most successful author on Patreon, and "porn" isn't the way I would qualify his game. In the same way, there isn't this much authors that have porn as their main priority in

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they don't want to watch a slice of life of a girl's life for month or years before porn

You know that there's a whole world between being a whore and being a chaste and prude girl ? You can have a sexually active female MC that don't drop on her knew each time a cock pass near to her, and that don't need to be blackmailed to have sex with someone.

yes we player have difference of test
but unless we hire the dev by ourselves alone
we can't get what specific we want

This I don't care. When a game don't suit me, I just don't play it. It never was and never will be the problem. What I care about is the lack of diversity and effectively well wrote games featuring female MC ; and like OP, also the lack of lesbian only games.

 

[pasunna]

I'm not this sure about that. All the polls done here tend to put the story way before the action. And it's not just because people who don't care about the stories also tend to not care about the meta-threads. DarkCookie is, by far, the most successful author on Patreon, and "porn" isn't the way I would qualify his game. In the same way, there isn't this much authors that have porn as their main priority in

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You know that there's a whole world between being a whore and being a chaste and prude girl ? You can have a sexually active female MC that don't drop on her knew each time a cock pass near to her, and that don't need to be blackmailed to have sex with someone.




This I don't care. When a game don't suit me, I just don't play it. It never was and never will be the problem. What I care about is the lack of diversity and effectively well wrote games featuring female MC ; and like OP, also the lack of lesbian only games.

you know right... not every one vote
in fact much people not vote
they are just pledge a shadow reader/player
I do ero novel as a job in my country
and the most louder people is who not buy
they want this they want that in novel that they got some thing they dislike
always critic and comment on chapter that free or ads click
when I lock chapter as buy only they never show up
and funny the income I got are the same

If you want to know what the pledge want
ask some dev in prateon vote
supply demand is always the cause

and as you choose dark cookies as example
yes he done a good job
porn game can have good story I'm not argue with that
but if it's not
it still sale
how many porn with good story that success?
in fact most of it died down leave abandon as this post start to point out
there are many problem
they don't have power to continue because the good story can't get impact at first sight
so can't get enough support pledge to do it as a long run
no one start to do real one project will never know what cause depress on these dev feeling
and when the day job that can't cover the cost on develop time consuming anymore
how do they answer their family
what the fuck are they doing for nothing?

not only us got problem
dev got it too
If they want easy money with cheap plot
I don't think it's not fair
and as long as it a fictional character
whore or not it's the writer decision
If it say this is base on real or history then that will need a discuss

maybe me too positive about this
I think all fiction good or bad it's up to the reader taste
there no rule
just much people love or some one that think he better than other call it's good
not make other one think it's good
there are some one like star war and some one call it cheap plot too

and... lasting I would say
the real life girl that whore herself not that rare
I know one around me in my real life as my friend
and she live happily...

 

[anne O'nymous]

I do ero novel as a job in my country
and the most louder people is who not buy
they want this they want that in novel that they got some thing they dislike
always critic and comment on chapter that free or ads click

And what's exactly the link with what I said ? :/
I gave my opinion, without complaining or asking for changes. I expect those changes, would gladly welcome them if they happen, but I can live without them and will never try to force them ; or it will be through my own productions.
It look more like you were in need to complain about all the ungrateful people around there, than answering me. But well, it's okay I guess.

and... lasting I would say
the real life girl that whore herself not that rare
I know one around me in my real life as my friend
and she live happily...

Again, what's exactly the link with what I said ? :/
I never said that a girl whoring herself (whatever figuratively or literally) can't be happy. In fact I talked once about a girl I knew back in the late 80's, early 90's, who did it by pleasure and to pay her expense while attending college. A wonderful and amazing girl (and I talk here about her personality) that I wanted to find back once she came back in my mind. Well it happen that she's now happily married, drowning her husband and children with all her love.
It's just that it's not what I personally want to see in a game featuring a female MC.

 

[redknight00]

Because it's an untried market, unlike vanilla/harem/incest/maledom, female in rape town, NTR, furry, gay games that have been well tested in the last years and known to have a sizeable market, games with a female lead that is not a cock-hungry whore have not really been tried that extensively. Sure there are a few games like that, but they are the exception, especially for games that let you play a lesbo route.

 

[Ataios]

This goes back to my previous comment for the dev involved. Why not make it a choice? If you want to focus on the lesbo aspect that's fine, but if you want to expand your market a bit add a few spots that do include that MFF threesome that so many guys want. The girls (and guys) wanting the pure lesbo stuff can just pick that option instead. By the same token, for the people who do want the pure lesbo stuff make sure there's a path that people can pick that doesn't involve any dicks...

The main market for lesbian porn are straight men, simply because there are more straight men than lesbian women. Even if only half or merely a third of us, prefer lesbian porn, we are still more numerous than lesbian women. MFF threesomes, though I think, are about equally annoying to lesbian women and straight men on average, though I personally certainly hate those anticlimactic scenes more than any lesbian woman here does.

A major problem might be that many developers still think, a game has to have a "relatable" protagonist for the main male audience.