What is something you want to see in an incest game?

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I'm currently writing an incest/harem interactive visual novel that focuses on repairing a broken family and bringing everyone closer together like they used to be, or even closer than ever before.

I've played numerous amounts of incest and harem games and always see people complaining about not enough X or needs Y.

I wanted to ask the community to give their input on what their personal tastes are when it comes to incest games and get a better feeling for what I'm working with and what I can do better at.
 

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A functional story of moral degradation that slowly devolves into carnal lust, an interesting story that compels one to continue to read, a story with life and action built into it, something more advanced then “OMG, your dick is in my cornflakes! Let me suck that off."

Too often people neglect the art of teasing
 

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=> What the community wants.

You'll never please "the community" - so write the story that most interests you and include the plot elements that float your boat. At least that way, your game will be consistent. The players who agree with you, will get lots of content they enjoy - the players who disagree were never going to be happy anyway.

But if you want to shoe-horn some random ideas into your plot...

A 3rd party is stood at the door/window clearly watching the action. Only the MC notices and the 3rd party grins back. The 3rd party leaves before the MC's partner notices. Extra points if the MC doesn't notice either and the renders are subtle enough that even the player might not notice the voyeur.

As an alternative... bait and switch. The boyfriend/girlfriend is blindfolded and therefore doesn't realize their sexual partner is being swapped for someone else. Extra points if MC comes home as sister's boyfriend is rushing out the door staring at their phone and saying they've been called away on an emergency - before suddenly doing a double take and telling you to stay away from your sister's bedroom, even if you hear her shouting (sister could be blindfolded, bound and maybe even gagged in a bit of roleplaying that was cut dramatically short - well, I say short... the sister doesn't know the boyfriend actually left).
 
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As an alternative... bait and switch. The boyfriend/girlfriend is blindfolded and therefore doesn't realize their sexual partner is being swapped for someone else. Extra points if MC comes home as sister's boyfriend is rushing out the door staring at their phone and saying they've been called away on an emergency - before suddenly doing a double take and telling you to stay away from your sister's bedroom, even if you hear her shouting (sister could be blindfolded, bound and maybe even gagged in a bit of roleplaying that was cut dramatically short - well, I say short... the sister doesn't know the boyfriend actually left).
This scenario would be rape, as would all the scenarios where you're sneaking into family members rooms and molesting them in their sleep. Maybe that's your kink, but consentual incest is a lot hotter to me.

For me it would be nice to have at least one family member have a crush on the MC. Maybe something he did in the past stood out to her - gave her a flower on valentines day, comforted her in a time of need. There's no need to corrupt her, trick her, coerce her or otherwise, but instead if the MC wishes to pursue this relationship, show her that he understands the social ramifications of an incestual relationship (needs to be discrete, treat her with respect, and go at her pace). She's the one pursuing him, but she won't make any large moves until he proves that he's got the right stuff to make it work. She's already justified incest in her head. She's into it, and she's even willing to commit to a polyamorous relationship within her family if others feel that way. The mom in MILFY City is like this, but she seems to enjoy the physical side of it more than the romantic. plus is a bit too aggressive.

Additionally, other family members that are into incest, that are not opposed to seeing other members of their family bang. A mom that wants to see her daughter and son fuck, but perhaps feels its a line she's unwilling to cross. If her sister, the MC's aunt, wants to give it a go, then she's supportive. Again, the family member is into it, has justified it, and the MC doesn't need to corrupt, coerce or trick. She is afterwards unable to resist temptatation once she sees other bang, and goes for it.

A mom or sister that feels left out once she realizes how many girls the MC is banging. They might be on the fence about incest, but the MC is attractive, and there's got to be something about him in their minds as their friends all fall under his sway. Maybe the mom hears about her son's prowess in bed after 3 of her friends all admit to sleeping with him at some point. She becomes jealous, envious, and starts to rationalize in her mind that teasing/flirting with her son is ok, but it becomes a slippery slope once he strongly reciprocates, and she can't back herself down.
 
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This scenario would be rape [...]
Fair point and that wasn't my overall intent. I suppose I was thinking of a more consensual non-consent fantasy involving siblings (since that's the focus of the thread). I just didn't write the whole backstory and surrounding scenes that explain the context. Instead I was focused on the build up and later moment of transition and revelation, and less about the second half of the scene which would just be the same sister giving into her similar desires that has been seen in literally hundreds of games already.

Maybe this wasn't their first time. Maybe the MC had been reading the sis's diary where she had already fantasized about something similar. The possibilities are endless - but even so, a context would be needed to show an implicit consent even where an explicit one was not immediately evident.

My thoughts were merely a way of raising the sexual tension in a way that hasn't already been seen a hundred times before - which seemed to be the point of the OP.
 
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Fair point and that wasn't my overall intent. I suppose I was thinking of a more consensual non-consent fantasy involving siblings (since that's the focus of the thread). I just didn't write the whole backstory and surrounding scenes that explain the context. Instead I was focused on the build up and later moment of transition and revelation, and less about the second half of the scene which would just be the same sister giving into her similar desires that has been seen in literally hundreds of games already.

Maybe this wasn't their first time. Maybe the MC had been reading the sis's diary where she had already fantasized about something similar. The possibilities are endless - but even so, a context would be needed to show an implicit consent even where an explicit one was not immediately evident.

My thoughts were merely a way of raising the sexual tension in a way that hasn't already been seen a hundred times before - which seemed to be the point of the OP.
Understood. You left it sort of ambiguous, but now that you've clarified it, I understand where you're coming from. The sister would be consenting to her boyfriend "but anyone could come in here... even 'Bro'..." where the boyfriend would reply... "You'd like that, wouldn't you?" and the sister could sheepishly reply... "Yeah.. but don't tell 'Bro' he's got to take his own initiative...."

And then at the end of the sex the sister could scream out her brother's name during orgasm to let the reader know she was in on it, and you could have the flashback scene showing sis and boyfriend planned it.

Problem is all the NTR haters would be angry at the game just for the sister having a boyfriend who wasn't you :)
 

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There is the other point of course...

It's not real.
It seems important to me that people not mix fantasy and reality when considering morality.

If I shoot someone in Call of Duty, I don't phone 911 for an ambulance.
When a character steals a car in GTA, I don't start worrying if the owner has insurance.
When I see Odin in the latest Avenger's movie, I don't feel the need to set up a new local church to the Norse gods.
Once I realized that Joffrey was the incestuous child of Jamie Lanister and Cercie Lanister, I didn't call child services.

I'm all for a sense of reality in porn games. But when the MC sneaks into sis's bedroom while she's sleeping - I can rationalize my discomfort by accepting that it's about as real as the fairy in Long Live the Princess, the school in The Headmaster, the prison in Karlsson's Gambit, the vampires in Occultus or the strip club in Pale Carnations.

So yeah. If a game depicts something unsavory - I'm fine that the author created it, even if I'm not actually fine playing it. I probably wouldn't - but that on me.

On a similar theme...

The usual disclaimer pretty much copy-pasted from movies to the effect of "all characters are or older" always makes me chuckle too. No they're not. They're barely a month old in most cases (depending on render times)... plus... you know... they're pixels. Even adult films only say the PERFORMERS are aged 18+. Though maybe the disclaimer was originally copied from an actual games studio... with actual lawyers. So perhaps they are more relevant than I give them credit for. Still, I'm waiting for a game that say "No animals were hurt in the making of this VN". (Let's be honest, someone's already done it - I just haven't seen it yet).
 
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