So I wouldn't call it an alternative, maybe a bad lifeboat of sorts.
Honestly I didn't searched deeply here, just addressing the fact that Patreon isn't the only one on the market. It just happened that itch was the name that crossed my mind at this time.
But, to be totally fair, would it be another name of a platform created before the ban, that things wouldn't have been really different. There isn't real alternative to Patreon, but this will, perhaps, change with the new created platforms. Actually, even Patreon itself isn't an alternative to pre-ban Patreon.
If creators stick to it, its mostly because they already have an account and the pledges which come with it. Trying to comply with the new rules is easier than switching to another platform, with the hope that most of their donators will follow. As for the new accounts, Patreon is the place where the donators are, so the place where you should be yourself.
In a way he wasn't totally wrong when talking about "soft monopoly" here. But absolutely not for the reason he thought. Patreon have a position of monopoly for the same reason than Facebook have one. They were the first one and are the place where you can reach the more persons.
If you try to go somewhere else, you'll have to be on more than one site, just because there's some who are here, some are here, and even some in this small almost unknown site. This while they all are on facebook... So, you take the easiest way and also go on facebook. And the same apply more or less for Patreon.
It's a de facto monopoly. It can collapse in just one day, like it can continue for decades.
Though PayPal seems to have updated their ToS to be more vague, at least I think that's the case.
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, they didn't. They always were vague on the subject. It's a massively used legal trick ; the more vague you're, the more easily you can say, "well, yes your honnor, but [this] isn't [that], so that's why we treated them differently". And what's more vague that, "certain sexually oriented materials or services" ?
"certain"... So not all. We don't know which one, but still know that there's some.
"sexually oriented"... well, sorry, but those bikini photography look really erotic for us, so it's sexually oriented ; the model presentation is just an excuse. What ? Yes, it's nudes of people during a savage gang bang, but it's concept art depicting the brutality of the modern world over the innocents, at least it's how we perceive it, so not sexually oriented ; the sexual nature is just a side effect.
"materials or services"... What isn't, in a way or another, material or service ?
It's even great for public communication. Prudes people think that it concern everything which look more or less erotic, while other people can think that it address only the most deviant perversions.
Sorry for interrupting your debate, I thought maybe someone would be interested.
No need to be sorry.