Where do you draw the line? (H Games)

[Yazen_]

Hello, this is probably one of the last posts I'll be doing in a while so I wanted to take this opportunity and ask you guys.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to content in porn games? To be more specific, some of the darkest fetishes out there exist. I kind of like pushing the limits but where do I draw the line when I develop my game. Is there any fetish I should avoid incorporating in my games to be able to monetize them?

I don't have any platform specifics yet but I'm at least planning to upload them here and somewhere else where I could get donations for supporting the development of my games.

Tell me what games have survived with extreme fetishes/content and just downright immoral for many?

 

[Hagatagar]

Ankle showing under a victorian dress, nothing could be more depraved.

 

[Synx]

Personnaly I stick to mostly vanilla stuff, any normalish sexual act with humanish looking characters. I'm not really interested in stuff like bestiality, furry, NTR, etc.

But there aren't really any fetishes that needs to be avoided, you just got to know that some of them (NTR, Bestiality, etc. The extreme ones) attract a completely different kind of audience than your average pron game. Games with extreme fetishes can survive, it has more to do with quality than what fetishes are present or not. Vanilla games get more attention yes, but they have a shit ton more competition as well.

The only advice I would give is to pick what more extreme fetishes you want from the start and stick with those. Mention them from the start which one are present/planned and which one aren't, and never ever go back on your choice or hell will most likely break lose in the comments.

And for the more innocent ones just make them optional. Just give the player an option to skip anal if that's not their thing, or even skip having sex altogether with a certain character. It doesn't impact the players that want to see everything, but might attract people that don't like a certain character or fetish.

 

[Deleted member 5410619]

Snuff, Amputation, Mutalation, etc.

I hate seeing my propery damaged.

 

[Yazen_]

Personnaly I stick to mostly vanilla stuff, any normalish sexual act with humanish looking characters. I'm not really interested in stuff like bestiality, furry, NTR, etc.

But there aren't really any fetishes that needs to be avoided, you just got to know that some of them (NTR, Bestiality, etc. The extreme ones) attract a completely different kind of audience than your average pron game. Games with extreme fetishes can survive, it has more to do with quality than what fetishes are present or not. Vanilla games get more attention yes, but they have a shit ton more competition as well.

The only advice I would give is to pick what more extreme fetishes you want from the start and stick with those. Mention them from the start which one are present/planned and which one aren't, and never ever go back on your choice or hell will most likely break lose in the comments.

And for the more innocent ones just make them optional. Just give the player an option to skip anal if that's not their thing, or even skip having sex altogether with a certain character. It doesn't impact the players that want to see everything, but might attract people that don't like a certain character or fetish.

Oh damn this is pretty helpful. Knowing my niche is really what's gonna help me put out the best content I could. I love playing both vanilla and taboo genres which is why I could probably do both somehow or in separate projects.

Thanks for your insight! By referring to quality you mean the renders or the story? I'm assuming it's a mix of both.

 

[Yazen_]

Snuff, Amputation, Mutalation, etc.

I hate seeing my propery damaged.

Yeah that's just criminal I'm definitely against that. My depravity only goes as far as taboos like incest, rape, reverse rape, degradation, mind break, lactation, and a bunch of other stuff that would make people uncomfortable if I go on xD

But the way I would write my stories wouldn't make my players feel like a total asshole. It's gonna be complex but fantasies in games are meant to be seen as something that could only happen in front of your screen. Vanilla or not, I'll try to make the story as entertaining as possible along with adventurous sex scenes.

 

[Icarus Media]

Snuff, Amputation, Mutalation, etc.

I hate seeing my propery damaged.

 

[Duke Greene]

I'm a long time player of Black Cyc games so extreme stuff like guro, insect vore and cannibalism doesn't bother me. I'm also not particularly bothered by negative emotions in general, so anything from NTR to psychological horror is fine, as long as the plot and/or characters are compelling enough.

Don't have issues when it comes to underage content either, I have mangas by Kereno in my exhentai favorites.

So in short I'm a total degenerate and perfectly ok with it. I only draw one line: real people. I don't want to read/watch/whatever porn involving real people. This is why I don't like real porn but to me this also includes drawn porn inspired by people (such as vtubers).

 

[Yazen_]

I'm a long time player of Black Cyc games so extreme stuff like guro, insect vore and cannibalism doesn't bother me. I'm also not particularly bothered by negative emotions in general, so anything from NTR to psychological horror is fine, as long as the plot and/or characters are compelling enough.

Don't have issues when it comes to underage content either, I have mangas by Kereno in my exhentai favorites.

So in short I'm a total degenerate and perfectly ok with it. I only draw one line: real people. I don't want to read/watch/whatever porn involving real people. This is why I don't like real porn but to me this also includes drawn porn inspired by people (such as vtubers).

Interesting. Well I don't have any plans on making it that dark with guro, vore, and cannibalism but everything else should be possible in my book. And yeah irl is just a no for me too. If you're curious, I could show the tags or at least the bullet points of what my content would be when I start developing my first game.

 

[boxedjack]

Oh damn this is pretty helpful. Knowing my niche is really what's gonna help me put out the best content I could. I love playing both vanilla and taboo genres which is why I could probably do both somehow or in separate projects.

Thanks for your insight! By referring to quality you mean the renders or the story? I'm assuming it's a mix of both.

Good advice by Synx. One thing I'd add is that even if things are optional I'd like the characters, mostly the MC, to stay somewhat consistent. A lot of games try to implement a more tame and more dark route and that is fine, I can play the lighter one, but I also personally don't like it when they are mixed and the contrast gets too stark. Specifically, don't have several girls and make one storyline for one of the girls all lovely dovely and the storyline for another one all about blackmail for example. I understand why devs do this, but I personally feel a lack of consistency cheapens all "routes" individually.

 

[Yazen_]

Good advice by Synx. One thing I'd add is that even if things are optional I'd like the characters, mostly the MC, to stay somewhat consistent. A lot of games try to implement a more tame and more dark route and that is fine, I can play the lighter one, but I also personally don't like it when they are mixed and the contrast gets too stark. Specifically, don't have several girls and make one storyline for one of the girls all lovely dovely and the storyline for another one all about blackmail for example. I understand why devs do this, but I personally feel a lack of consistency cheapens all "routes" individually.

Woah damn I shared this feeling too at some point and you just brought it all back to me. And well, when I say a mix of both, it would most likely route from the girl's background and psychology. I'm thinking of developing an MC with a neutral persona, where he's not exactly overly sweet but also not really someone who'd commit criminal acts. The sex scenes from the vanilla routes would of course stay vanilla until you slowly awaken their inner desires and explore depravity, the same goes for the non-vanilla/taboo routes, but in their case, it's them taking depraved advances on the MC and the MC slowly warms up to it until it becomes an addiction for both of them.

Sounds fair? Well I'm still a beginner anyway. I know I have a lot to improve on in the following years.

 

[CaptainBipto]

Tell me what games have survived with extreme fetishes/content and just downright immoral for many?

If you haven't heard of it, you might want to look at Degrees of Lewdity. It has some fairly extreme content for the 'normies', but from comments in this thread it would probably get a 'Meh, I've seen worse'. It deals mostly with fairly underage characters and some rough and ready rape action (and some beast action, and some drug action, and some basic B/E action, and various and sundry other things).
I haven't looked in on the game in a while, but last I heard the game was still going strong. I think they are getting their funding through Subscribe Star, Patreon probably would have banned them in an instant.

As someone else mentioned here already, make the game you want to make and stick to it. Let people know up front what will and will not be in the game and you probably won't have (as many) people bitching about things.

The bar for porn games is pretty low for me, but there are a few things that get an instant 'nope the hell outta here': Gore, vore, snuff, ryona, and scat are at the very top of that list. Rape is pretty high on the No list as well, unless it's that stupid 'porn rape' where mommy talks about how bad it is for her twin sons to spitroast her without her permission, but they better not pull out until mommy says so.

 

[Yazen_]

If you haven't heard of it, you might want to look at Degrees of Lewdity. It has some fairly extreme content for the 'normies', but from comments in this thread it would probably get a 'Meh, I've seen worse'. It deals mostly with fairly underage characters and some rough and ready rape action (and some beast action, and some drug action, and some basic B/E action, and various and sundry other things).
I haven't looked in on the game in a while, but last I heard the game was still going strong. I think they are getting their funding through Subscribe Star, Patreon probably would have banned them in an instant.

As someone else mentioned here already, make the game you want to make and stick to it. Let people know up front what will and will not be in the game and you probably won't have (as many) people bitching about things.

The bar for porn games is pretty low for me, but there are a few things that get an instant 'nope the hell outta here': Gore, vore, snuff, ryona, and scat are at the very top of that list. Rape is pretty high on the No list as well, unless it's that stupid 'porn rape' where mommy talks about how bad it is for her twin sons to spitroast her without her permission, but they better not pull out until mommy says so.

Oh I see, this is valueable information, thanks!

I looked into DoL game you talked about and I could tell why it'd be banned on patreon in an instant lol. But I see, well I might as well consider setting up a Subscribe Star account. Since I'm most likely gonna be doing problematic content for most platforms :sigh:

But I see, it seems like vanilla here is more popular among people, I just find it hard to make vanilla things interesting. It's a porn game, most people don't even read the story if I'm being honest. But well, maybe there's a way to get around that.

 

[Chalker]

Hello, this is probably one of the last posts I'll be doing in a while so I wanted to take this opportunity and ask you guys.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to content in porn games? To be more specific, some of the darkest fetishes out there exist. I kind of like pushing the limits but where do I draw the line when I develop my game. Is there any fetish I should avoid incorporating in my games to be able to monetize them?

I don't have any platform specifics yet but I'm at least planning to upload them here and somewhere else where I could get donations for supporting the development of my games.

Tell me what games have survived with extreme fetishes/content and just downright immoral for many?

I guess a focus on emotional suffering.

I prefer games with good feels, but I've played games with ryona and snuff before. I just don't like games that have a focus on emotional suffering or corruption games where I sympathize with the girl because it makes me feel bad. But at the same time, I've played games like Dungeon of Revival and Wolfs Dungeon where you have a lot of physical suffering which I don't mind.

It's why I don't like NTR or some corruption games, sometimes when I play an RPGM fem protag game I'll end up only doing a pure route because I couldn't bring myself to force a character to get hurt or raped because I grew to like and sympathize with them.

 

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[♍VoidTraveler]

Just do what you like, there always will be some perverts who'll be into it.

 

[Yazen_]

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I guess a focus on emotional suffering.

I prefer games with good feels, but I've played games with ryona and snuff before. I just don't like games that have a focus on emotional suffering or corruption games where I sympathize with the girl because it makes me feel bad. But at the same time, I've played games like Dungeon of Revival and Wolfs Dungeon where you have a lot of physical suffering which I don't mind.

It's why I don't like NTR or some corruption games, sometimes when I play an RPGM fem protag game I'll end up only doing a pure route because I couldn't bring myself to force a character to get hurt or raped because I grew to like and sympathize with them.

Oh I understand, These things often make me uncomfortable too. I don't plan on putting too much of it on the content I would put out in my projects but just enough to drive the story and give a better experience for the players!

Well I've talked about a mix of both vanilla and taboo in my stories and I plan to stay true to it. Nothing too devastating for the player, just an over all feel good and exciting game with story immersion.

I'm not planning to stop after creating just one game though, I have plenty of ideas in mind. If I wanna create a heart wrenching story, I'd rather have it in a full separate game. I don't wanna overcrowd the elements in the game/stories I'll be making anyway. But if it's a big one, a good mix of everything would be what I'd be doing.

 

[Yazen_]

Just do what you like, there always will be some perverts who'll be into it.

Alright then, will do!

 

[Omniprophet23]

Hello, this is probably one of the last posts I'll be doing in a while so I wanted to take this opportunity and ask you guys.

Where do you draw the line when it comes to content in porn games? To be more specific, some of the darkest fetishes out there exist. I kind of like pushing the limits but where do I draw the line when I develop my game. Is there any fetish I should avoid incorporating in my games to be able to monetize them?

I don't have any platform specifics yet but I'm at least planning to upload them here and somewhere else where I could get donations for supporting the development of my games.

Tell me what games have survived with extreme fetishes/content and just downright immoral for many?

IDK, In prolly sick AF when it comes to sex, but talking personally dont do anything that isnt comfortable for you. That's the line. Yeah you need to work, visit your grand grandma and so on, but you know when it's wrong. Anything else is fine. It's a fiction, the only thing IT can hurt Is someones ego

 

[DawnCry]

I mean, if you wanna appeal to the most people I would just avoid stuff that is literally disgusting if you don't have the fetish for it, for example vore, guro, vomit, scat... seriously, this stuff has to be on it's own.

Anything else is kinda fair game and well there are light versions of any fetish and more extreme ones, they kinda decide your public, overall I would say that you have a main "theme" that is the focus then build up from there, just put what you like and make a game that you would love to play, even more because there is no project that has guaranteed success, so at the very least be sure to enjoy making it.