VN Ren'Py Whispering Ledger [v0.2.1] [WispDev]

How do you feel overall about the mercantile system?

  • It starts slow but ramps up, so not too bad

    Votes: 17 21.0%
  • Way too much money and faction exp too quickly

    Votes: 9 11.1%
  • I am literally always broke

    Votes: 27 33.3%
  • Some factions gain exp too slow, others too fast

    Votes: 14 17.3%
  • All factions gain exp too slowly

    Votes: 29 35.8%
  • All factions gain exp too quickly

    Votes: 5 6.2%
  • I like everything the way it is now

    Votes: 21 25.9%

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WispDev

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Hi, I love the game so far and I am excited for the futa on male content. I am just wondering if the Feren will have human dicks or animal dicks. I would prefer animal dicks, I have always had a thing for dicks with knots and I would love to be knotted by Ashura. Thank you for the great game.
Feren will almost always have human anatomy, but I understand the sentiment. Pony is the best model to use for more animal-like characteristics, but I'm using Illustrious because it excels at the anime aesthetic. That being said, I've found it damn near impossible to give a character a canine penis without using another LoRA, and then when using that LoRA it kind of fucks up the pixel art style, which itself is extremely delicate.

That, and, as far as mainline characters, I'm trying to branch out into lesser known animals, and I have no idea what the dicks of most animals look like.

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jvargo16

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Feren will almost always have human anatomy, but I understand the sentiment. Pony is the best model to use for more animal-like characteristics, but I'm using Illustrious because it excels at the anime aesthetic. That being said, I've found it damn near impossible to give a character a canine penis without using another LoRA, and then when using that LoRA it kind of fucks up the pixel art style, which itself is extremely delicate.

That, and, as far as mainline characters, I'm trying to branch out into lesser known animals, and I have no idea what the dicks of most animals look like.

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Yeah, you can tell that it's different. The skin tone is a whole different shade, it's a tad darker compared to the rest of the body.
I'm personally a fan of normal penises instead. While I'm here, I was wondering if the futanari will have different penis sizes? Like Balae having a big penis and Ashura having a smaller penis?
 

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Yeah, you can tell that it's different. The skin tone is a whole different shade, it's a tad darker compared to the rest of the body.
I'm personally a fan of normal penises instead. While I'm here, I was wondering if the futanari will have different penis sizes? Like Balae having a big penis and Ashura having a smaller penis?
Relatively speaking, yeah. Balae is bigger than Ashura but Ashura would also be considered large. No one will have a comically sized baseball bat but at the same time you won't find a futa who is humiliatingly small.
 
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Nice game so far. Like it a lot. Any hints on when we get some new content WispDev?
 

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Nice game so far. Like it a lot. Any hints on when we get some new content WispDev?
Yup, I'm estimating the next release will be Oct 25th. I'm actually already completely finished with the second half of the prologue, but now I need to retroactively add music, sprites, and sound effects to the first half. This is also when the core gameplay loop will be implemented, which is what's actually going to take the longest time. Plus the UI looks like shit.

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Yup, I'm estimating the next release will be Oct 25th. I'm actually already completely finished with the second half of the prologue, but now I need to retroactively add music, sprites, and sound effects to the first half. This is also when the core gameplay loop will be implemented, which is what's actually going to take the longest time. Plus the UI looks like shit.

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Will Nicole be a futa? I'm hoping she's a futa.
Also, will there be any ball touching scenes? Like the MC massaging Ashura's balls, ball worship, things like that?
 

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Will Nicole be a futa? I'm hoping she's a futa.
Also, will there be any ball touching scenes? Like the MC massaging Ashura's balls, ball worship, things like that?
Nicole isn't a futa, but the 6th and final "mainline" character will be, giving us 3 futas and 3 normal girls. She won't be making an appearance in the next update though, as she has a specific role after a plot point that hasn't happened yet.

Ball touching would likely be well before ball "worship", since the MC may want to get hands-on to prove that futas have "both". Won't be in the next update though. I'm not necessarily going for a "slow burn", but rather a gradual escalation of events at reasonable intervals. So there will be a lot of "idle curiosity and research" before "100% all-in I'm going to climb under the desk and you keep working" when it comes to the futas.
 
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Nicole isn't a futa, but the 6th and final "mainline" character will be, giving us 3 futas and 3 normal girls. She won't be making an appearance in the next update though, as she has a specific role after a plot point that hasn't happened yet.

Ball touching would likely be well before ball "worship", since the MC may want to get hands-on to prove that futas have "both". Won't be in the next update though. I'm not necessarily going for a "slow burn", but rather a gradual escalation of events at reasonable intervals. So there will be a lot of "idle curiosity and research" before "100% all-in I'm going to climb under the desk and you keep working" when it comes to the futas.
Can I choose to only get with one girl or futa, or do I have to follow a mandatory harem path?
If there is pregnancy content, is it possible to have one of the futas get the others pregnant? For example, the MC lets Ashura know that while he wants to get her pregnant, he wants to watch her get someone else pregnant. I won't be surprised if this isn't possible, I know it's a weird request.
I'm sorry about all the questions, I'm just curious about what type of content will be in this game.
 

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Can I choose to only get with one girl or futa, or do I have to follow a mandatory harem path?
If there is pregnancy content, is it possible to have one of the futas get the others pregnant? For example, the MC lets Ashura know that while he wants to get her pregnant, he wants to watch her get someone else pregnant. I won't be surprised if this isn't possible, I know it's a weird request.
I'm sorry about all the questions, I'm just curious about what type of content will be in this game.
Fair questions. I definitely wouldn't consider this to be a harem game, and in truth I don't know the final form (marriage/pregnancy/kids) the relationships will take, as my personal focus is largely on the mercantile system and eventual political intrigue.

Balae and Ashura are the only two characters out of the current five who know each other, so you'd be more likely to get content with both of them together, but not likely to get a scene with Rat and Nicole together, for instance, as they live in two completely separate societal "worlds".

The problem comes down to my skill level, and how difficult it is to have multi-character scenes. Something like a nebulous "1 boy, 3 girls, triple blowjob" is easy when the details don't matter, but when it comes to making sure that everyone retains their unique charactersistics without merging into someone else, it's more difficult. As my skills grow, so too do the possibilities.

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As for routes, each character has separate Affinity and Faction/Ranking events. Players absolutely should max out everyone's Faction Rank as updates come out, as that'll increase your shop's profitability, but the Affinity events are completely optional and focus more on trying to get into someone's pants. There'll also be lewd scenes in faction events, but you can skip them entirely through a dialogue option or if your affinity with that character is crazy low the scene won't even come up.
 
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Fair questions. I definitely wouldn't consider this to be a harem game, and in truth I don't know the final form (marriage/pregnancy/kids) the relationships will take, as my personal focus is largely on the mercantile system and eventual political intrigue.

Balae and Ashura are the only two characters out of the current five who know each other, so you'd be more likely to get content with both of them together, but not likely to get a scene with Rat and Nicole together, for instance, as they live in two completely separate societal "worlds".

The problem comes down to my skill level, and how difficult it is to have multi-character scenes. Something like a nebulous "1 boy, 3 girls, triple blowjob" is easy when the details don't matter, but when it comes to making sure that everyone retains their unique charactersistics without merging into someone else, it's more difficult. As my skills grow, so too do the possibilities.

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As for routes, each character has separate Affinity and Faction/Ranking events. Players absolutely should max out everyone's Faction Rank as updates come out, as that'll increase your shop's profitability, but the Affinity events are completely optional and focus more on trying to get into someone's pants. There'll also be lewd scenes in faction events, but you can skip them entirely through a dialogue option or if your affinity with that character is crazy low the scene won't even come up.
I'll probably do individual routes for each character. Currently, I like Ashura the most. She's not the prettiest but I really like her personality.
 
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I'm not really against aicg existing, but I am against people acting like it's okay to use it for money since it inherently plagiarizes, and doing the latter for money is an actual literal crime and immoral (not always the same, but this is one of the examples where it's both). If it's just a simple project for entertainment and doesn't require payment to enjoy, I'd be willing to try it out, and I do love dickgirl-on-male
 

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I'm not really against aicg existing, but I am against people acting like it's okay to use it for money since it inherently plagiarizes, and doing the latter for money is an actual literal crime and immoral (not always the same, but this is one of the examples where it's both). If it's just a simple project for entertainment and doesn't require payment to enjoy, I'd be willing to try it out, and I do love dickgirl-on-male
Well to be fully transparent, I do have a Patreon, I'm just not advertising it because v0.1 doesn't have the core gameplay loop implemented, but there'll be a link to it with the release of v0.2. Then, builds will be staggered, with the public version always being one build behind the latest version.

On the bright side, this is a piracy site, so by downloading the game from here you're able to have the best of both worlds, in that you can play games with aicg that have genres that interest you, without giving payment to people who participate in practices you're opposed to. Win-win.
 
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Well to be fully transparent, I do have a Patreon, I'm just not advertising it because v0.1 doesn't have the core gameplay loop implemented, but there'll be a link to it with the release of v0.2. Then, builds will be staggered, with the public version always being one build behind the latest version.

On the bright side, this is a piracy site, so by downloading the game from here you're able to have the best of both worlds, in that you can play games with aicg that have genres that interest you, without giving payment to people who participate in practices you're opposed to. Win-win.
Fair point
 

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This game, so far, is both one of the prettiest AICG games I've seen, but also interesting enough that I'm looking forward to the story told as well as the steamy parts in the future.

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You somehow answered a question I never thought to ask myself with this line.

The dialog box is too opaque in my opinion. I wanna see thighs! (And bulges!)

I only played through once, so maybe stupid question, but why give us the option of being racist if there are no human supremacy routes? Almost every option was obviously the right choice.

I'm looking forward to future updates!
 

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This game, so far, is both one of the prettiest AICG games I've seen, but also interesting enough that I'm looking forward to the story told as well as the steamy parts in the future.

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You somehow answered a question I never thought to ask myself with this line.

The dialog box is too opaque in my opinion. I wanna see thighs! (And bulges!)

I only played through once, so maybe stupid question, but why give us the option of being racist if there are no human supremacy routes? Almost every option was obviously the right choice.

I'm looking forward to future updates!
Great question. The "obviously correct" choices are intentional for the prologue because you're meeting the characters for the first time. As the story progresses, there will be some choices that both seem feasible, but will have different results based on the personality of the person you're talking to. Sometimes both choices raise affinity, but one raises it more than the other. Other times, one raises affinity as the "preferred" answer, but the other one doesn't increase/decrease because it's more of a neutral response.

There will definitely be more opportunities to lean "humans #1" in the future without getting a Bad End in the future, but right now the MC doesn't really know enough about Feren to "reasonably" be outright racist toward them.

While players will be able to choose their own attitudes toward certain scenarios, the immutable core motivation of the MC will always be "I want to make a fuckton of money", so anything involving "nobody wants to work with you anymore" will always instantly result in a Bad End. Just like in real life, you'll need to be a bit more covert with your racism.

Later on you'll meet key powerful characters who are not even a little subtle about their hatred of Humans/Feren. You might want to make friends with them. That's when the real fun starts.

Also, good shout about the opacity. You can press H to hide the dialogue box, but I'll see about both reducing opacity and creating a dedicated button on the UI (like an eye icon or something) that hides all dialogue boxes.
 
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This game, so far, is both one of the prettiest AICG games I've seen, but also interesting enough that I'm looking forward to the story told as well as the steamy parts in the future.

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You somehow answered a question I never thought to ask myself with this line.

The dialog box is too opaque in my opinion. I wanna see thighs! (And bulges!)

I only played through once, so maybe stupid question, but why give us the option of being racist if there are no human supremacy routes? Almost every option was obviously the right choice.

I'm looking forward to future updates!
For me, when it comes to any girl with a dick, it's BOTH
 

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Update for whoever cares:

v0.2 is pretty much all wrapped up for release next week. There'll probably be balance issues as far as the mercantile systems go, but now that they're in place I'll be able to focus almost exclusively on story content for v0.3 onwards. Speaking of which, here's a sneak peek at our 6th and final mainline character, Mia.

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I'm also hoping to see bulges for the futas, though it seems it will only be possible with Ashura since to other futas use magic to hide the bulges.
 
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