Why are Asshole, Old, Fugly, Greasy, and/or Terribly Fat Men prevalent in hentai/ porn?

[JJZ-Godd]

Okay, this might spark a fight (and insults) but my curiosity needs to be sated. You probably know what scenario I'm talking about: a beautiful, sexually attractive female character having mind-melting sex (a lot of the times unwillingly) with male characters who looks on average would be considered unattractive with a personality to match to say the least. So my question:

Why are a lot of men in hentai and 2d porn, generally portrayed as assholes, old (as in they are considered as senior citizens), fugly, greasy, and/or obscenely fat? And by extension what do people find appealing about it?

I'm not trying to shame anyone, I'm just curious because they are so prevalent. I don't mind if a male character is fat, or not the greatest-looking, so long as they aren't assholes and their designs aren't so extreme. But I personally like both male and female characters to look good.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I assume you're talking about games with a female protagonist?

In that case it's usually about corruption. The idea is that people find it erotic that she's degrading herself so much as to be with that sleazeball.

 

[JJZ-Godd]

I can see how degradation is a selling point, women defiling themselves to seek greater pleasure for herself and the audience by proxy. However, I meant hentai as a collective whole. You have popular artists like Takeda Hiromitsu, Bitch Bokujou, Sanagi Torajirou, Xration (Mil), who draw gorgeous women who seem to always be paired with fugly as shit men.

 

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self-insert

 

[Vanaduke]

Because most of its audience, we as a collective whole are degenerates and are mostly insignificant outside our own little world here? If any of you deny this, you're a hypocrite.

I don't know about these hideous men portrayed on your list of adult games but the prevalent games I visited and the popular ones in these forums portrays a much more sublime approach of masculinity than the ones you speak of.

 

[JJZ-Godd]

Because most of its audience, we as a collective whole are degenerates and are mostly insignificant outside our own little world here? If any of you deny this, you're a hypocrite.

I don't know about these hideous men portrayed on your list of adult games but the prevalent games I visited and the popular ones in these forums portrays a much more sublime approach of masculinity than the ones you speak of.

Sorry, they're hentai artists, and I'm referring to porn in all mediums if that was not clear enough. And while I kind of agree with the degenerate demographic, that's quite insulting when you think about it.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

I have no idea, it seems to be a uniquely Japanese thing. Apparently being promiscuous turns you into a gerontophilic chubby-chaser if you're Japanese. But only if you're female. Good luck finding an old woman in hentai, let alone an obese one. Maybe it's a stand-in for bestiality or something, a degrading act to show how low the character has fallen. I don't know if I'm allowed to post examples but it's very common in NTR. It just makes no sense to me because normally that's not whom you'd expect to lose your love interest to. In a western game, it would be some muscled douchebag.

 

[DarthSeduction]

I have no idea, it seems to be a uniquely Japanese thing. Apparently being promiscuous turns you into a gerontophilic chubby-chaser if you're Japanese. But only if you're female. Good luck finding an old woman in hentai, let alone an obese one. Maybe it's a stand-in for bestiality or something, a degrading act to show how low the character has fallen. I don't know if I'm allowed to post examples but it's very common in NTR. It just makes no sense to me because normally that's not whom you'd expect to lose your love interest to. In a western game, it would be some muscled douchebag.

Heh, most western games don't really touch NTR the way Japan does. But taking a look at Retard in Lechertown and Corruption games, we tend to put our Female character with an average boyfriend or husband and then have them fuck the slimy assholes of the city, and maybe dogs too if the dev wants to get nasty.

But, and maybe this is just me, but I think most depictions of Milf characters in anime are already unattractive. Part of it is that they, of course, have the same disease we do in the US of designing all their Milfs with Milk Tank Breasts and Child Birthing Hips that make their pelvis capable of housing it's own stargate. But they also tend to add lines to their faces, and they say that in 2D art each line you add add's 10 years, so if they, for instance, give her laugh lines and crows feet she all of the sudden looks 50 or 60 to me.

 

[mesoru]

Because we already have enough boring bishounens getting all ladies they don't deserve in harem anime.
I don't need that shit also in my rape hentai. You could even say these are some sort of anti-tropes. Not to mention it also adds greatly for degradation and depravity.

You have popular artists like Takeda Hiromitsu, Bitch Bokujou, Sanagi Torajirou, Xration (Mil), who draw gorgeous women who seem to always be paired with fugly as shit men.

And none of these artists are vanilla, go look for vanilla hentai and you won't find any Asshole, Old, Fugly, Greasy, and/or Terribly Fat Men, just your usual kind and donkan bishounen. Btw you also forgot Mosquito Man on your list.

 

[fauxplayer]

Why are Asshole, Old, Fugly, Greasy, and/or Terribly Fat Men prevalent in hentai/ porn?

Because they're prevalent in real life...?

 

[JJZ-Godd]

Because we already have enough boring bishounens getting all ladies they don't deserve in harem anime.
I don't need that shit also in my rape hentai. You could even say these some sort are anti-tropes.

And none of these artist are vanilla, go look for vanilla hentai and you won't find any Asshole, Old, Fugly, Greasy, and/or Terribly Fat Men, just your usual kind and donkan bishounen. Btw you also forgot Mosquito Man.

I guess that's just a conflict in taste then, oh well. I would actually be down to see more fat/ ugly male characters in a non-rape stories. But now I have some more questions.

Why do you say they're anti-tropes, because since they are quite common now, they seem more like a trope?
Why are said ugly characters usually relegated to such antagonistic roles?

 

[DarthSeduction]

I guess that's just a conflict in taste then, oh well. I would actually be down to see more fat/ ugly male characters in a non-rape stories. But now I have some more questions.

Why do you say they're anti-tropes, because since they are quite common now, they seem more like a trope?
Why are said ugly characters usually relegated to such antagonistic roles?

Yeah, for them to be antittropes they'd have to be the MC in a Romance game, or the romantic options in a fem protag romance game

 

[mesoru]

Why do you say they're anti-tropes, because since they are quite common now, they seem more like a trope?

What i meant by antitrope, is that they are created to go against the norm, which is the kind boy getting all the ladies present in harem fiction. Just read some ntr/rape stories and you can see the average dude always being the loser. But they are tropes in their own genres ofc, guess i didn't express myself well.

Why are said ugly characters usually relegated to such antagonistic roles?

Since you mentioned only the "ugly" trait, i can only tell that it adds to degradation and depravity. I don't care for self insert, but i love the degradation aspect, the taintness of beauty, the corruption of morals, the woman falling for something she finds disgusting and abhorrent; all these points mentioned fits the antagonist role (for me at least). That's something hard to find when there are two greek gods fucking each other and beauty is a very believable device for conquest.
Now, i don't read much vanilla, but the ugly trait usually isn't present on goody two shoes guys, right? so you can't blame me for this trait being present mostly on antagonists. I already gave my reasons for why i like it, but i obviously can't speak for others who also enjoy it.

 

[kokotheworm]

As mesomeso says a big point of it is the Orc effect. For some it's even better when the beautiful gals falls for the worst both physically, intellectually and morally repulsive dude they can find. It's degrading and so forth .
The other main point is that unlike in mainstream manga or hentai where there is an overabundance of cute/average joe in those kind of hentai putting one of them there is kind of anticlimactic, yet their ugly counterpart are as devoid of depth most of the time.
So the real factor is that in japan, or everywhere but not entirely and I ain't aiming at anyone here, those that buy this kind of hentai are in fact middle aged or otherwise ugly bastard, who fantasize about those kind of scenario, not unlike the whole "new" phenomenon of "Incel ". Demand and supply

 

[redknight00]

For what I see (and I could be wrong because I only translated ones) the young and average males are still the bulk to japanese hentai, but there are indeed many Old Man porn around. As many said already, it's about degradation, to have the girl fuck a man they wouldn't willingly lay with for increased non-con and humiliation for the NTR fans. I think the western counterpart for this would be the interracial porn, but still not quite right.

And remember that japanese are not known for moderation, their body types usually only come in the shota, young adult and ugly old man variety.

 

[kokotheworm]

I think the western counterpart for this would be the interracial porn, but still not quite right.

The western counterpart is the fat and ugly dude, the interracial stuff exist in hentai and it's mostly the same, find a muscular black dude with the ugliest muck you can imagine and have him defile the sterotype of the perfect girl. It's a weird racist fetish I can't quite understand .

 

[freedom.call]

I like him. Kinda like a stand-in for us beta males.

 

[gunderson]

Why is it a problem that there are more types of porn than the most generic pretty-boy-bangs-pretty-girl variety? If you don't like it, don't masturbate to it. Find other porn. There's LOADS of it.

On the other hand, if OP's only real goal was to insult people who like porn where not everyone is attractive, that's shitty. Don't be shitty.

 

[JJZ-Godd]

Why is it a problem that there are more types of porn than the most generic pretty-boy-bangs-pretty-girl variety? If you don't like it, don't masturbate to it. Find other porn. There's LOADS of it.

On the other hand, if OP's only real goal was to insult people who like porn where not everyone is attractive, that's shitty. Don't be shitty.

I'm not trying to insult people for having differing tastes, I'm just curious as to why the trope appealing.

 

[Firebless]

Why are a lot of men in hentai and 2d porn, generally portrayed as assholes, old (as in they are considered as senior citizens), fugly, greasy, and/or obscenely fat? And by extension what do people find appealing about it?

The reasons for it are as difficult to explain as any other fetish. Probably mostly related to an erotic humiliation fetish

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