Why do corruption games have sleazy/creepy guys always interacting with girls? Why is that? They usually act odd, force the girl to preform erotic acts. It devoids it of any meaningful relationship. Why are they always young or very old? The girl is pretty much an 8 or 10 most of the time
Why do corruption games have sleazy/creepy guys always interacting with girls
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That's where the corruption comes from. Forcing the girl to do something she doesn't want to do with someone she doesn't want to do it with until she's altered or broken enough to enjoy it.
If it's someone the girl finds attractive and wants to do all those things with then it's just a relationship, nothing corrupt about it.
A girl changing her preferences to match a partner she loves isn't corruption, it's how relationships work. It needs to be someone she doesn't like or it looks odd.
There is no meaningful relationship there. The girls is forced to be with said person, that's the purpose to it. It's not a tale of romance.
If it's someone the girl finds attractive and wants to do all those things with then it's just a relationship, nothing corrupt about it.
A girl changing her preferences to match a partner she loves isn't corruption, it's how relationships work. It needs to be someone she doesn't like or it looks odd.
There is no meaningful relationship there. The girls is forced to be with said person, that's the purpose to it. It's not a tale of romance.
I can somewhat agree, but then couldn't the guy be attractive and make her do depraved things? IT just seems to annoy me how most the guys in FMC game are usually ones who aren't attractive mentally or physically
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Like I said, if she finds that person attractive then she would be willing to do those things. It could be seen as corruption but it's very minor as it doesn't alter her in any significant way.
There are plenty of people that would go to extreme lengths to make a lover happy. I don't know anyone that would want to make someone they dislike happy.
Corruption is a one way relationship not two. Though it may seem it like that in the end, it's not. For now let's call the corruptor, X and the corrupted, Y
The most used archetype is one you describe. Probably the easiest to write and gets the point across. Though in my opinion that doesn't really count as corruption but more inline with blackmailing. The much more compelling scenario is, X slowly influencing the moral behavior of Y. Take this scenario for example, X comes across Y and starts a small conversation, through out the events X subtly influences Y to do things that Y would normally never do. To me, this is how corruption works.
As mention by Avaron1974, X will never have mutual feeling for Y even if Y comes crawling and licks their foot, this would never happen it would break the flow of corruption. X's goal isn't to create that mutual feeling but rather exploit it for personal gain. Corruption in itself is to benefit through unmoral actions. One that comes to mind is, Stockholm syndrome.
The most used archetype is one you describe. Probably the easiest to write and gets the point across. Though in my opinion that doesn't really count as corruption but more inline with blackmailing. The much more compelling scenario is, X slowly influencing the moral behavior of Y. Take this scenario for example, X comes across Y and starts a small conversation, through out the events X subtly influences Y to do things that Y would normally never do. To me, this is how corruption works.
As mention by Avaron1974, X will never have mutual feeling for Y even if Y comes crawling and licks their foot, this would never happen it would break the flow of corruption. X's goal isn't to create that mutual feeling but rather exploit it for personal gain. Corruption in itself is to benefit through unmoral actions. One that comes to mind is, Stockholm syndrome.
It doesn't have to be a man who's attractive, the concept can also apply to a woman. As mention above, it's a simpler route for the dev to take if they showed some creepy guy who does x,y,z actions than it is to write out the process of corruption. Since corruption isn't a take X steps and leap to Z, dev's often opt for the easy route. The way I see it is, dev's build their story not around the idea of corruption, but the erotic acts. Corrupting someone doesn't just happen right away, it takes time to shift the person in questions moral views.
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Disclaimer, I agree 100% with your definition of what corruption is in these games when done correctly. EXCEPT for this sentence. No, a woman would not be more apt to do depraved things just because of a pretty face. That devalues women quite a bit to even imply that. If a woman is not apt to depravity, simple attraction isn't going to get them to sink into depravity without force or coercion. Is it a bit easier for an attractive person? That entirely depends on the woman, but usually, yes. That does not mean that it isn't corruption anyway.
Looks are a big part of your perceived value in a relationship. For women it may not be as a big of a piece as it is for men but it's still very high on the list. As far as how hard they'll work to get a man that's more down to relative value of the woman vs the man. If she looks like a super model and he looks like Danny Devito then she probably doesn't consider him a catch unless he's stupidly rich or has some other major factor working in his favor. If she's average looking and he looks like Brad Pitt or whoever the hot guy is these days then she'll probably do just about anything to land him.
There's a reason a lot of guys say average looking women are more fun in the bedroom than super hot ones. The hot one just has to take off her clothes to impress you. The average one has to do things the hot one won't (or do it better).
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As I said, it is a bit easier for an attractive guy, but that's it. If a girl isn't inclined to depravity even Brad Pitt would have to do a bit of coercion to get depraved acts out of a woman. And remember, we're not talking about just getting some freaky action. We're talking about actual depravity. It's a subjective thing, but that line is fairly well defined for most people from similar cultures.
If that were true we wouldn't see so many stories where guys complain that their wife or girlfriend used to be a party girl and was willing to do all sorts of crazy stuff (anal, threesomes, orgies, whatever) with 1 or more of her exes but won't let him do it. Why? Because that other guy was more of a catch. He was better looking or had more money or a bigger dick or whatever. For whatever reason she felt she had to work harder to keep that guy. The new guy doesn't measure up so she won't give it up even though she has in the past for others.
That line in the sand people draw is not set in stone. For someone of higher perceived value people will move that line closer to what their partner wants even if it includes something they strongly dislike personally. For someone of lower percieved value they'll draw the line closer to what they personally want and if the lower value guy doesn't like it, tough shit.
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Bullshit. If you think a guy can just walk into a random girl's life, grab her by the throat, call her a cum dump, and fuck her throat because he's hot, then you have a seriously warped version of life AND women. Because that's what depravity is. Not wild sex, not a freaky one night stand. But depravity. Especially in the terms of this post having to do with corruption.
I don't think he means that; what he's saying is that better looking men have an advantage.
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Advantage =/= automatic corruptor. Doesn't matter how attractive you are, a woman isn't just going to roll over and enthusiastically let the dude do whatever he wants.
I understand it's all wank games, but nothing kills the mood faster than things making no goddamn sense.
One form of corruption is a woman banging some horrifying dude, sure. But not all forms.
Believable corruption would be the otherwise moral woman being awoken to new desires and, after initially recoiling in horror - mostly internal - getting talked in to doing it, recoiling again, then after a time coming back enthusiastically as her own decision.
You know - like she'd been corrupted.
I understand it's all wank games, but nothing kills the mood faster than things making no goddamn sense.
One form of corruption is a woman banging some horrifying dude, sure. But not all forms.
Believable corruption would be the otherwise moral woman being awoken to new desires and, after initially recoiling in horror - mostly internal - getting talked in to doing it, recoiling again, then after a time coming back enthusiastically as her own decision.
You know - like she'd been corrupted.
There are plenty of womanizing playboys corrupting all the chicks in porn games. There are also plenty of ugly hobo mother fuckers doing the same. So why is there more of the latter? Because it's more depraved. It's as simple as that. The female character falls that much further when she gets corrupted by the undesirables.
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Yeah, in my original reply to this thread I said that better looking guys have it easier, but it's still not "Hey, I'm hot, I'm gonna skull fuck you now."
I think a lot of it has to do with the how the original personality of the character is set up. Unless someone is schizophrenic or insane they're not going to be convinced to willingly do something completely against their nature and enjoy it. I do think there are a few exceptions where you could have something like religious convictions causing them to repress their wild side.
This is the classic catholic schoolgirl, brought up by a religious family who turns 18 and decides religion is a crock of shit and suddenly becomes a nympho. Ideally that sort of character should be written in such a way that you at least get some hints about that character's inner desires even though she's repressing them because "sex is dirty" or whatever.
I think without religion or overly strict, protective parents, or some other thumb on the scale like that most characters shouldn't make such a drastic change in personality.
A girl who finds herself willingly participating in gangbangs, orgies, etc was probably always a slut barring the catholic school girl nympho type scenario. There's not really a male equivalent in most games from what I've seen. Usually the closest you get is a game where MC starts off as the typical weak beta nerd type and tries to become an alpha. As unlikely as that might be that's not corruption. He actually wants that from the beginning, it's just a difficult path to get there.