Why do so many games fail to offer a futa protag choice?

Besharia

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I get they need males for basic reasons but why not give the option to play as a futa? I see so few games do it and a lot of people don't want to play a dude because that means he's gonna be in the sex scenes? And if your gonna force us to play as a dude why not give us the option to make him transluscent so we don't have to see him as he is boning the chick? So many good games out there ruined by the choice to play as a dude only. I think a lot of people would either appreciate a futa option or at the very least the option to gray the dude out.
 

Meaning Less

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Because most games are prerendered (2DCG, 3DCG), this means that it can be a technical challenge to make ANY customization in general.
Being prerendered means that dev would have to render the same scene multiple times (one male, one futa, one transparent and so on) and that's a lot of extra work that isn't really worthwhile for most devs.

On the other hand, with rendered games (2D Game, 3D Game) it is a lot easier as you can usually get away by just switching the character model, which is why those games are more prone to have extra customization options.

So sadly the best options is looking for games already tagged with futa/trans protagonist.
 

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I don't know why there aren't a billion games about my specific niche fetish either, or why every dev doesn't spend an entire year worth of development to add that content option to every single scene of their very long game so that I and a handful of other people can also enjoy it. :unsure:
 

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Maybe there are not many devs into futas. Maybe only Icarus Media ?
Was I already on your mind Rafster? (Honestly you admit to being a 'bear' once...)

Short answer is simply supply and demand, I don't mind either futa/trans as protag or another character in game to be honest.

That said you can find some if you're not too fussed about definitions vis a vis futa vs dickgirl:

https://f95zone.to/threads/lust-city-v0-9-premium-aid.13712/ - Decent but requires the walkthrough as unlocking the events is quite linear. There is a later version but requires translation from Russian and allegedly the dev is...well...it's said she doesn't like people translating the game. That said you play as a college Councillor in office wear so I can't complain!

https://f95zone.to/threads/translat...-eventually-enjoy-it-rj343891-kagurado.95126/ - Has a machine translation you can apply, I personally loved this one. But as with most Kagurado games the premise is similiar in each: Protag has magic dick or addictive semen or just very good at lovemaking so once you do someone once they become addicted to you.

https://f95zone.to/threads/lifeplay-v4-29-vinfamy.11321/ 3d game where you can customise a lot with your character, where you live, who you live with, marriage etc etc. My character Maria Santiago is a Hispanic futa that rose to a senior position in the office firm she works for by dicking her female boss, then her husband found out and keeps calling her to ask her to come round more often!

https://f95zone.to/threads/liliths-throne-v0-4-3-9-innoxia.3564/ Text base free roamer but you can become a futa, highly customisable too, my character is a futa human with a 21cm long, 9" girth penis who dresses in office jacket, miniskirt and heels and has addictive cum so the slaves I buy like her more.

https://f95zone.to/threads/breeders-of-the-nephelym-v0-755-3a-derelicthelmsman.2483/ - Haven't played this in a long time but last I played you could be futa.

https://f95zone.to/threads/warlock-and-boobs-v0-351-0-1-boobsgames.18692/ - Character can grow boobies so...depending on your definitions it might work.

https://f95zone.to/threads/the-company-v4-3-complete-westane.4153/ - HTML game you can play as one working in an office setting.

https://f95zone.to/threads/trixies-holiday-build-4-0-blacksheep-ovca.104055/ - Look at me recommending Blacksheep OVCA, it's cool though we get on and have no beef, when the news started I asked if he was alright and he said it was fine he'd been somehow unaffected, although I couldn't find his pornhub account anymore so...But anyway this one you play as one, it's short so far as he only recently started to get into game making.

https://f95zone.to/threads/hentai-high-school-v1-10-0-public-beta-sp1-sp4-hhs.1016/ - Really old but still worth playing, be a principal of a school (for over 18's only) and you can make them love you, use hypnosis or use chemical warfare on unsuspecting students, townsfolk and perhaps more deserving: The PTA.

https://f95zone.to/threads/futa-paradise-v0-12-kenningsly.66601/ - Haven't played in a while but it was good.

https://f95zone.to/threads/futa-fix-dick-dine-and-dash-v12282020-cyberframe-studios.69433/ - Nice short linear story with high quality 2d graphics, I like the scene in the shop.

https://f95zone.to/threads/heroine-rumble-v1-011-enlit3d.1880/ - Be female wrestler that eventually grows cock and when you face opponents you can bang them in the ring. In more ways than 1!

https://f95zone.to/threads/inner-growth-v1-3-morally-purple.43165/ I have to put this here or Avaron1974 will beat me.

https://f95zone.to/threads/building-our-futature-v0-69-4-infidelisoft.44841/ - Be futa, bang bored repressed housewife while you work for her husbands office business.

There are others as well still in Japanese or machine translated and some won't be on this site because of content rules.

Okay now I'm bored, they're there if anyone wants some futa/trans protag games.

I think that honestly outside of the fandom and our own little corner of the internet we're not really a 'mainstream' fetish. As with that other thread shared we can also at times be divisive, you have people outside the fandom denouncing it as 'gay shit' and then inside it we argue and debate about whether it counts if she has balls or a fanny. Then you get the out there theories like it's a psy-op to turn everyone gay or the guys that start going into a discussion of transexuals, when all we really want to do is enjoy a (hopefully) wonderfully crafted artistic story. But really who'd want to step into all that? Especially new devs?

Not to mention having it not as a main but as an option requires much more work, each scene has to be re-done to account for the futa character, so if a game has 120 sex scenes in a male playthrough, then adds a female one and then adds a futa that's a total of 360 that has to be done, and I suspect anyone looking at that number will turn that many degrees and walk away.
 

Crimson Delight Games

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I get they need males for basic reasons but why not give the option to play as a futa?
Because it would double the workload... maybe even triple it, depending on the game.

Our own project has a male MC - we want to add a female one as well, but it's just not possible without doubling the development budget and time needed to produce the lewds. Now imagine adding futa to that... we'd need at least +1 more full-time artist, and they'd still struggle to keep up with the 'regular' content.

It's simply not doable, unless you have either a ton of money to burn, or you're fine with taking 10 years to develop a single game.

And if your gonna force us to play as a dude why not give us the option to make him transluscent so we don't have to see him as he is boning the chick?
Can't speak for other devs, but we decided to show our MC in sex scenes because it looked weird otherwise. That, and both our artists are females, so they like painting buff hunks. :ROFLMAO:
 

Carrera

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Probably because the vast majority of players aren't into futa. Just like the vast majority of players are straight and aren't into gay stuff.

No matter what people try to slip into your kool-aid.
 
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Money money money ...
I'm pretty sure by now, that my game would have been a lot more popular with only one dick. Although we have lots of male mc games already.
I tried something new, didn't attract a huge crowd, will of course finish my game anyway, but don't know if I will continue on this path once I'm done.
 
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For games who use real porn I feel like it comes down to how rare true hermaphrodites are in real life, and how it's even harder to find individuals who want to be porn actors and possess the right characteristics for the job (appearance, skills, etc).

Beyond that, it all comes down to a myriad of reasons. Many indie porn games don't have the budget and resources to invest in unique 3D models, thus many being limited to stock models already available. Also it's a niche market, though it feels strange to say this as someone who somewhat enjoys Fenoxo's games... being around such communities gives you the impression it's a lot more popular than it actually is.
 
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Meaning Less

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Money money money ...
I'm pretty sure by now, that my game would have been a lot more popular with only one dick.
Yeah sure... It has nothing to do with everything else right?

This argument that people don't pay for niche fetishes is always dumb, in fact usually they get paid more because people converge into the same creators for that stuff.

The more unique and high quality the thing you do is the more people are willing to pay for it, simple as that.
The error many devs commit is to try and please others instead of themselves first and foremost. You might think you understand kinks other people are into but the moment you try to create something you don't personally enjoy it will most likely just turn into something generic and unnapealing for most people.
 

Jaike

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Yeah sure... It has nothing to do with everything else right?

This argument that people don't pay for niche fetishes is always dumb, in fact usually they get paid more because people converge into the same creators for that stuff.

The more unique and high quality the thing you do is the more people are willing to pay for it, simple as that.
The error many devs commit is to try and please others instead of themselves first and foremost. You might think you understand kinks other people are into but the moment you try to create something you don't personally enjoy it will most likely just turn into something generic and unnapealing for most people.
Your example is a Patreon page that goes back to 2017. Doesn't seem like the best comparison, even if it proves you can hit a big following with that set of fetishes.

Inner Growth may not be your thing, but it is not obvious what's bad or generic about it, looks like a competent implementation of its fetishes to me. What's obviously unappealing to the majority of the market is the futa and the multiple dicks.
 

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Inner Growth may not be your thing, but it is not obvious what's bad or generic about it, looks like a competent implementation of its fetishes to me.
Haven't played the game you mentioned therefore I can't compare, all I'm saying is that the thing you find MOST are games without more dicks, and a huge chunk of those games don't get paid either...

There are many more factors that will dictate what becomes popular and gets paid more, for instance incest was surefire to gather a lot of support a few years back, then people oversaturated that market with many similar and generic games to the point that now people don't even care about new incest games as much unless they have something different...
 

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Haven't played the game you mentioned therefore I can't compare,
Well, your post was directly in response to the dev of Inner Growth and gave additional factors for why success could've been limited, so it was reasonable to read it as criticism of some kind about the game.

all I'm saying is that the thing you find MOST are games without more dicks, and a huge chunk of those games don't get paid either...

There are many more factors that will dictate what becomes popular and gets paid more, for instance incest was surefire to gather a lot of support a few years back, then people oversaturated that market with many similar and generic games to the point that now people don't even care about new incest games as much unless they have something different...
Sure, no disagreement with any of that. Of course it's not just about supply, it's also about demand and I'm sure demand's still large for incest games even if it's very difficult to make a living of it.
 

Meaning Less

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Well, your post was directly in response to the dev of Inner Growth and gave additional factors for why success could've been limited, so it was reasonable to read it as criticism of some kind about the game.
I see, but it was more a direct response to the naive viewpoint of "I'll just add/remove something, and that will fix everything", nothing is that simple, if it was every dev would be making bank...