Why do so many games insist on calling people who are clearly supposed to be your sister/mother your roommate/landlady?
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- Jul 27, 2017
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If you decide to make a censored incest game for Patreon but don't put out an uncensor patch yourself, you kind of suck though. You can also just let the user change the variables themselves, many games do that and Patreon seems to be cool with that.
It is just a matter of respecting a platform's rules, I am not into incest or other things they have banned, so it is fairly easy for me to follow those rules.
If I were to make an incest game, I'd pick SS or at least have a SS account as backup... Those things you have mentioned did get other devs in trouble in the past, except the uncensor patch (as far as I know).
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There are also games with uncensored incest, even popular games, and they have always flown under their radar. So I guess it's all about the player's reports at the end.
- Jul 27, 2017
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The only ways I've seen devs get in trouble for incest were a) directly sharing links to the uncensor patch on Patreon like a complete retard and b) straight up not censoring at all. Patreon really doesn't give a shit as long as there is the faint layer of plausible deniability.
I have also heard of devs getting in trouble for using variables, but that's surely due to angry players' reports since I doubt Patreon would go that far as to check every single game.
Never heard of uncensor patches giving troubles, but linking it within Patreon is... quite smooth brain for sure
- Jul 27, 2017
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But how could that be against the rules if the default choice is "stepdaughter" or whatever? Giving users a text input that enables them to turn a wholesome stepdaughter romance into depraved incest is a step too far? A bunch of successful and 3+ year old games are doing it this way and I assumed it was Patreon approved.
Then again, Long Live The Princess had straight up uncensored incest for years and then everybody was *surprised pikachu* when it got suddenly banned one day.
No, it is not allowed. But yeah, considering that some big games have uncensored incest and have always flown under their radar (they are completed), I believe it's all about whether your players will report the game or not.
I could see them making an issue of variables if you did something like making the variable names mom, sis, etc for characters where the in game text said "landlady, roommate, etc". That would clearly show your original intent to have the game include incest even if playing the game wouldn't reveal that intent.
It wouldn't be very hard to fix but I wouldn't risk it personally. Much better to just use their name and then have some kind of relationship or nickname file that you or anyone else can just replace with different relationship status. I doubt Patreon looks at the code though unless someone specifically reports the game with snippets of the code in the complaint.
- Jun 10, 2017
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One thing that have to be kept in mind is that technically "incest" have a really lax definition for Patreon.
It's based on the group structure and not on the blood. A step family will be incest, as well as the parent friends who take care of you since years, because your parents died, works oversea since years, or whatever excuse you'll come with.
You are living with what looks like your family, therefore it will be something that looks like incest.
There isn't such thing as "Patreon approval". They don't moderate beforehand, but only on report. If a game have content that isn't supposed to be on Patreon, or that is borderline, it's more surely because Patreon never heard about it, than because Patreon agreed with this content.
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If that was true every incest game ever would be getting banned even if it is censored. That's clearly not happening, so it can't be how they operate. Even if you go by the "well, maybe it was never reported" logic, Summertime Saga has been making 50k a month or whatever for years, you can't tell me nobody ever reported that game.
- Jun 10, 2017
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Most games don't have such setting for their story. The characters live together, but there's near to no reference to the past, what make it pass. A 20yo MC living with a landlady and having roommate(s) isn't infrequent in the USA. Plus, the moderation will not necessarily play the game, therefore it depend what the report is saying.
If it's a generic report saying, "hey, it's an incest game", the result will be different than if the report say that "if you reach this part of the game, you'll see the landlady explain how MC was cute when he was still a baby, and she liked to give him a bath, what is clearly impossible if she wasn't his mother in disguise".
And also:
Sure that they don't spit on the money, Mr.Dots have a free pass for Dating my Daughter as long as he never talk about it on his Patreon page ; he was in the top 3 at that time. But I guess it's more on Jack Conte (Patreon co-founder) words that come the truth. He explained the ban by saying that it was a sacrifice to make in order to permit to as many people as possible to still live from their passion. If you add to this the fact that they don't moderate beforehand, you end with a ban as lax as their definition of what is banned ; at least when it come to games.But that would also take this sweet sweet fee money from Patreon.
As long as there's no report, or they find nothing when following what the report say, you're safe. But if they find something, they'll look at the whole content and strike even for the smallest issue, because last time they discarded such report, they ended with the payment processors on their back.
They do operate like that. And Summertime Saga had to remove incest in like 2018.
It's the reason lots of pieces of media are more boring and terrible than they should be: because the loud whiny few get catered to much more than the quiet, mildly dissatisfied masses. So what if (making up numbers) 98% of the audience either doesn't care one way or the other about incest or actively likes it or just tolerates it but doesn't make a fuss? The pearl-clutching 2% get to have their way, because they scream and moan and cry like the tiniest of babies, and the Internet doesn't have a good way to tell those people to go away, grow the fuck up, and decide to play different porn games in their off-time.
It also doesn't help that most game devs will apparently do anything to keep developing games for pay, even completely compromising their artistic vision, even to make less than $1 an hour at this 'job;' rather than making whatever the fuck they want to as a hobby and releasing it for free while just working a different job.
It also doesn't help that most game devs will apparently do anything to keep developing games for pay, even completely compromising their artistic vision, even to make less than $1 an hour at this 'job;' rather than making whatever the fuck they want to as a hobby and releasing it for free while just working a different job.
- Jun 16, 2021
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98% inbreeder? common man. And the crying babys are mostly the incest fans who demand their shit in every fuckin game that gets released. you're not as "legion" as you think. i really baffles me that you guys cannot even imagine that others may be disgusted by your fetish. and as for the "silent majority"... here on the forum is kinkshaming forbidden. thats what got me my infractionpoint and that's why most people don't care. I am a bestiality fan; but i am fully aware that this kink is very niche and it grosses most people out. Imagine us few bestialityfans behaving like incest fans.... asking for dogs or horses in every fuckin thread... not a pleasant thought, right? Just chill, man
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Not only that, they also removed a lot of content inside the game, sleep sex is one I remember
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Yup. In addition, as you know but I doubt others do, the version of Summertime Saga that is out there today is allowed on Patreon because the developer is following whatever they agreed to on content to a "T" in order to be there.
step-incest and adopted-incest is against Patreon TOU, too.
- May 30, 2021
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I dont have any problem with incest, but if in Pornhub and another sites always spoke about "stepsister" and "stepmother" it´s for something.
Maybe put in variable that quotes and change is a solution.