Why does "Femdom" usually involve explicit cruelty while "Maledom" mostly just means the man isn't always spineless?

[kek555]

I've been wondering this for a few years now.

If you sort by "Male domination", you'll mostly find games where a clueless, spineless guy is thrust into a situation where scantily clad women demand cuddles and make-out sessions before ordering him to take off his pants so they can give him the blowjob they want to give for their own enjoyment. The harshest/darkest that most get is that the protagonist might turn women into slutty prostitutes who fuck other men and give him the money.

But if you sort by "female domination" you'll mostly find games where the men in them are abused verbally and physically abused, legally classified as inferior, forced to drink piss, become livestock, smell grotesque body odor, be shaven bald, have their genitals crushed.

There are basically no "Femdom" games that just involve a woman-led relationship featuring lots of pussy-licking, facesitting, and cowgirl sex.

One similarity between the two fetishes is that they both almost always involve the dominant having multiple partners, but even there they diverge with maledom being lighter and femdom being crueler.

In Maledom, the dominant having multiple partners is usually just a casual harem where all the girls range from friendly and encouraging of each other to begrudgingly tolerant of each other. Any status disparity between girls is brushed over, and they're all reassured to be equal in importance, value, and worth to the protagonist.

In Femdom, the dominant having multiple partners nearly always takes the form of cuckoldry and humiliation. One of the woman's partners (usually the player) is explicitly inferior in status, with explicit competition being drawn between partners for the sake humiliation one of them. Usually, it somehow manages to be racist towards both white and black men at the same time by depicting the former as strictly inferior while depicting the latter as crude, aggressive meatheads.

Sometimes it feels like "Light Femdom" is tagged vanilla, "Vanilla" is tagged "Male Domination", "Harsh Femdom" is tagged as "Light femdom", and "Harsh Maledom" just stopped existing sometime in 2014~2016 when patreon got involved with porn games.

 

[crnisl]

1. Cultural influences: Societal norms and expectations often shape the way we perceive power dynamics and relationships. Historically, maledom has been more accepted and prevalent in society, leading to a wider range of portrayals in adult games that cater to this preference. On the other hand, femdom may be seen as a more niche or countercultural interest, which could explain the prevalence of more extreme and taboo themes within the genre.

2. Market demand: The creators of adult games may be responding to the perceived demand for certain types of content. It is possible that the players seeking femdom content are more drawn to the extreme and taboo themes, leading to a higher concentration of games featuring harsh femdom. On the other hand, players interested in maledom may prefer more light-hearted or casual content.

3. Creator preferences: The creators of adult games are influenced by their own interests and preferences, which can shape the types of content they produce. If a majority of creators have a preference for harsh femdom or light maledom, it is likely that their games will reflect those preferences.

 

[Geigi]

It's not easy to write femdom content. Many think that female domination is only sadism, humiliation and degradation which is absurd. That's why I play otome games or games that are written by women, it's just they rarely write femdom too. Also, when there's a femdom in the game, male protag is considered to be a beta Eric, cause God forbid that alpha Tyrone have a dominant woman with him in life and/or bedroom.

 

[Cosy Creator]

I think it's because most of this content is targeted at a male audience. So you're describing the ways maledom and femdom manifest in male fantasies - many submissive men truly want to be abused, while not many dominant men want to be truly abusive to their women. I suspect if you swapped the target demographic and aimed these games at women, you would get the mirror image: gentle femdom and abusive maledom.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

I don't know about femdom, but I know various games where the maledom is borderline (or beyond) abusive. Blackmail, slapping, rough sex, passing the partner around, etc. Maybe this doesn't come up much in that niche of male-MC 3D Daz/Blender VNs, but those aren't the only WEGs.

 

[Duke Greene]

If you play a lot of otome games, visual novels made by women for women, you'll tend to see what Cosy Creator pointed out: very abusive borderline rapists (and sometimes not borderline) as legitimate male love interests. Otome protagonists are typically "everygirls" (they can be either wet blankets or spunky though) but the few dominant ones tend more towards spoiled himedere behavior: selfish, haughty, annoying, but rarely cruel.

Basically your observations are the result of what male players fantasize about.

 

[Rafster]

It also depends on the creator, and what's he/she's into. In my case, for example, it's natural for me write scenes from the sub point of view, since I'm a sub guy, but it's a real struggle when I have to switch to the dom side.

 

[baneini]

Male domination fits the cultural norms, guy is aggressive but is eventually tamed by a woman and they build a lasting relationship and a home for raising children. Its easy to operate in those parameters for writing fantasy.

Female domination is inherently anti-biological norms and is essentially impossible to reconcile with raising children and such. You have masochistic men who aren't behaving in societally useful manner and women don't even want to deal with that since that doesn't help their end goal. Asking women to dominate men is kinda like asking them to marry a guy whos shorter than them. They'd just be annoyed with you. Tiny minority of women have a more masculine personality tho.

Since femdom isn't about womens natural instincts, elevating their societal status, furthering their goals or desires and is more about men asking to be treated in a bizarre manner the fetishization of it in games immediately goes into weird directions. Like it's not surprising to see games where the WHOLE world is about pandering masochistic men, it gets silly.

 

[Meaning Less]

I feel like this is a biased observation coming from someone that doesn't like femdom, when you don't like something you notice it more often.

Altough I do agree that maledom tends to be an optional kink in games, meanwhile femdom developers tend to focus on it harder and make entire games revolving around the kink.

 

[russianbot]

Because Patreon banned anything rapey and women can't be rapists.

 

[woody554]

I haven't really run into these non-cruel maledom stories, although I don't really pay attention to that specific tag (pair). what I've encountered has been unusually cruel abuse, rape and murder. like one comic had a bunch of old men hanging women and jerking off to it. so maybe its more about how you search for games/comics/stories? like maybe filtering out 'rape' or something else that removes the despicable cruelty, I don't know.

 

[HarveyD]

I think it's because most of this content is targeted at a male audience. So you're describing the ways maledom and femdom manifest in male fantasies - many submissive men truly want to be abused, while not many dominant men want to be truly abusive to their women. I suspect if you swapped the target demographic and aimed these games at women, you would get the mirror image: gentle femdom and abusive maledom.

This. There are exceptions of course, but it's all down to the target audience.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I don't know about femdom, but I know various games where the maledom is borderline (or beyond) abusive. Blackmail, slapping, rough sex, passing the partner around, etc.

Most maledom games rely on aggressiveness, and potentially abuse, more than on effective domination. And in those games male characters consider the girls like their entire property, even outside of any sexual context.
It's the interesting part about OP statement, he don't see it. But he don't miss it when it come to femdom while, proportionally speaking, there isn't really more of them.

But in the end, does this really matters ? If those games exist, and if there's many of them, doesn't it mean that there's a public for them ?

 

[Banality]

somehow strange that maledom is supposed to be lovey dovey and femdom is hell on earth.
maybe i should look into that topic ^^

 

[saddlface]

Male domination fits the cultural norms, guy is aggressive but is eventually tamed by a woman and they build a lasting relationship and a home for raising children. Its easy to operate in those parameters for writing fantasy.

Female domination is inherently anti-biological norms and is essentially impossible to reconcile with raising children and such. You have masochistic men who aren't behaving in societally useful manner and women don't even want to deal with that since that doesn't help their end goal. Asking women to dominate men is kinda like asking them to marry a guy whos shorter than them. They'd just be annoyed with you. Tiny minority of women have a more masculine personality tho.

Since femdom isn't about womens natural instincts, elevating their societal status, furthering their goals or desires and is more about men asking to be treated in a bizarre manner the fetishization of it in games immediately goes into weird directions. Like it's not surprising to see games where the WHOLE world is about pandering masochistic men, it gets silly.

How about a nice big helping of misogyny to go with your bullshit. "Anti-biological"? What nonsense. You seem to be an expert on "women's natural instincts" amazing.

 

[Deleted member 5410619]

From my point of view:
Maledom: Male dominating female.
Femdom: A disease that causes men to lose the spine and let woman walk all over them.

This is the problem when writting femdom.
In order to get femdom instead of the girl being a slut or easy you need to have her dominate.
And to make it believeable a woman dominate's a man he must be humilitated.

As any kind of muteal enjoyed sex woudnt be consider maledom or femdom.
As the entire point of the domination fetish is that one take control.
And female being eager to fuck is considered sluty not dominate.

 

[baloneysammich]

I don't know anything about femdom except the occasional representation in pop culture of extremely powerful men being drawn to it as a means to escape the burdens of power & responsibility.

I'm anything but an extremely powerful man, but it seems plausible at least.

 

[yeetbender]

I've been wondering this for a few years now.

If you sort by "Male domination", you'll mostly find games where a clueless, spineless guy is thrust into a situation where scantily clad women demand cuddles and make-out sessions before ordering him to take off his pants so they can give him the blowjob they want to give for their own enjoyment. The harshest/darkest that most get is that the protagonist might turn women into slutty prostitutes who fuck other men and give him the money.

But if you sort by "female domination" you'll mostly find games where the men in them are abused verbally and physically abused, legally classified as inferior, forced to drink piss, become livestock, smell grotesque body odor, be shaven bald, have their genitals crushed.

There are basically no "Femdom" games that just involve a woman-led relationship featuring lots of pussy-licking, facesitting, and cowgirl sex.

One similarity between the two fetishes is that they both almost always involve the dominant having multiple partners, but even there they diverge with maledom being lighter and femdom being crueler.

In Maledom, the dominant having multiple partners is usually just a casual harem where all the girls range from friendly and encouraging of each other to begrudgingly tolerant of each other. Any status disparity between girls is brushed over, and they're all reassured to be equal in importance, value, and worth to the protagonist.

In Femdom, the dominant having multiple partners nearly always takes the form of cuckoldry and humiliation. One of the woman's partners (usually the player) is explicitly inferior in status, with explicit competition being drawn between partners for the sake humiliation one of them. Usually, it somehow manages to be racist towards both white and black men at the same time by depicting the former as strictly inferior while depicting the latter as crude, aggressive meatheads.

Sometimes it feels like "Light Femdom" is tagged vanilla, "Vanilla" is tagged "Male Domination", "Harsh Femdom" is tagged as "Light femdom", and "Harsh Maledom" just stopped existing sometime in 2014~2016 when patreon got involved with porn games.

female nature

 

[endless1m]

shift in society

 

[DuniX]

For "maledom" there are other tags to go into more specifics of different content with things like corruption and whatnot. That's also the stereotypical and natural gender role without going into gay stuff.
For "femdom" on the other hand that is a specific fetish for male players to have the experience of a submissive role which is why it has connotations with BDSM.