it's sad to see fewer ntr games coming out these days. there was a time when we used to get at least 3 new ntr games daily, but now even finding one is tough. is the ntr industry facing a recession, or is something big on the horizon? i really hope these tough times pass soon...
why does it feel like ntr games are slowly fading away?
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Not really? There's still aplenty, there's even more uploaders now too, If you're peeved for more games, request them in the request thread.
Not really? There's still aplenty, there's even more uploaders now too, If you're peeved for more games, request them in the request thread.
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It's almost as if the thing you love and cherish is being taken away from you isn't it?
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There are still a decent number of them coming out, especially if you count all the AI-generated CG ones as well.
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The data does not support your claim.
All games listed on F95 - introduced or most recently updated in the last:
| All-time | 365 days | 180 days | 90 days | 30 days | 14 days | |
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| All Games: | 20,027 | 6,704 | 4,422 | 3,045 | 1,445 | 730 |
| Netorare Games: | 1,776 | 786 | 555 | 406 | 208 | 103 |
% "ntr" | 8.9% | 11.7% | 12.6% | 13.3% | 14.4% | 14.1% |
| New Games: | 20,027 | 3,851 | 1,891 | 1,152 | 409 | 224 |
New Netorare Games: | 1,776 | 396 | 192 | 104 | 36 | 17 |
% "ntr" | 8.9% | 10.3% | 10.2% | 9.0% | 8.8% | 7.6% |
First two rows of data are from the Latest Updates page. The fourth and fifth rows are from doing an advanced search.
While there are fluctuations in each - there isn't statistically significant difference in the percentage of games either updated or introduced on this site.
Also, 745 netorare games were introduced on this site in the past year. That's about 2 per day, on average. Over the course of the previous 7 years and 5 months the site before last December 22 - 1,031 netorare games were introduced on this site, about 1 every 2.7 days.
There are more netorare games coming to this site daily, than ever, in the history of this site.
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Bro last month it was they asking why there are some many ntr games...
I'm literally making one right now lmao.
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I think a big thing could be that gamers of these adult games become far to connected and tend to play the games from a roleplay perspective, so the idea of seeing someone fuck a character in the game who they have allowed themselves to become attached to is what is causing a lack of your NTR games to appear.
The other problem is how gamers get certain kinks or roles wrong, or just have way too many mixed opinions on what the definition of something should actually be. People to this day still debate on what actual 'Role Play' in RPG games should mean for crying out loud.
But for me, the biggest problem is that the devs have started allowing the audience to dictate the outcome of games. Yes we all have ideas on what we would like to see, but that doesn't mean we're right and should always give the dev creative control. If we like it, great, If not, so be it.
The other problem is how gamers get certain kinks or roles wrong, or just have way too many mixed opinions on what the definition of something should actually be. People to this day still debate on what actual 'Role Play' in RPG games should mean for crying out loud.
But for me, the biggest problem is that the devs have started allowing the audience to dictate the outcome of games. Yes we all have ideas on what we would like to see, but that doesn't mean we're right and should always give the dev creative control. If we like it, great, If not, so be it.
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Ahh, perception bias. What a funny little thing, that can even affect the best of us, once in a while.
On one day, it's a post about "why there's too much of a certain tag recently". Then on the very next day, it's a different post about "why there too little of the same tag recently". And the world goes round and round.
On one day, it's a post about "why there's too much of a certain tag recently". Then on the very next day, it's a different post about "why there too little of the same tag recently". And the world goes round and round.
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I feel like NTR game are still comming out as they've always been.
the issue is, the game that are comming out are for the most part the same games we've been playing since always.
the same plots, the same archetype, the same art.
I can't say how many time i've spend looking for night time events in rpgm or how many weightless choices I've clicked on Ren'py.
you can only eat the best meal a certain amount of time until it start tasting like shit.
I'll keep eating slop until the glorious day a hero or a madman takes Artificial Academy 2 and Custom Order Maid 3D2 and create Artificial Maid Order Academy 3D.
Man, what a beautiful day that will be.
the issue is, the game that are comming out are for the most part the same games we've been playing since always.
the same plots, the same archetype, the same art.
I can't say how many time i've spend looking for night time events in rpgm or how many weightless choices I've clicked on Ren'py.
you can only eat the best meal a certain amount of time until it start tasting like shit.
I'll keep eating slop until the glorious day a hero or a madman takes Artificial Academy 2 and Custom Order Maid 3D2 and create Artificial Maid Order Academy 3D.
Man, what a beautiful day that will be.
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thanks for the stats, they’re solid, but they don’t tell the full story. just because there’s technically more ntr games doesn’t mean it feels the same. for one, a lot of the newer ones are low-effort or samey, so even if the numbers are steady, the quality or creativity isn’t what it used to be. back when ntr was booming, it felt like devs were putting out stuff that really hit hard emotionally or had unique twists. now, a lot of it feels rushed or formulaic
also, visibility matters. sure, the percentages are holding, but ntr doesn’t seem to get the same spotlight anymore. other genres are getting more attention, and unless you’re actively digging, it’s easy to miss new ntr titles. so yeah, the data looks fine, but the experience of finding and enjoying decent ntr games has changed
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That was not your argument. Your argument was clearly defined as:
Now you are moving the goalposts.
You know the data does not support this either.
Your personal opinion on the quality of netorare games is fine, but don't confuse your opinion with factual information.
Back when netorare was newer to you, you weren't aware of the similar plot devices, tropes, and contrivances. It was all new enough to you that the games seemed more magical and explosive. As you became more familiar with more and more games, you started seeing all the similarities and in order to get the same thrill yearn for something "greater" than there ever was there. The problem isn't the developers.
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fair enough, but i don’t think i’m moving goalposts here. just adding more nuance to my original argument
the main thing i was saying is that it feels like there are fewer ntr games worth paying attention to now, whether that's due to visibility, quality, or just how saturated the market is with other stuff. sure, the stats show a steady flow of games, but if most of them don’t stand out or get enough attention, it creates the impression of a decline
on the "it's just you" argument, but i don’t think it’s just nostalgia or overexposure. when i said ntr used to feel “bigger,” i wasn’t talking about me being newer to it; i’m talking about the community buzz and the consistent hits that made an impact. it wasn’t just about tropes feeling fresh, it was about devs taking risks and delivering stuff that got people talking. the stats don’t lie, but they also don’t tell the whole story
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While I agree that your initial argument was about quantity of games coming out, which was disproven, I also agree with your assessment of the genre in general.
I believe there is a drop in NTR quality because the market got saturated; every dollar-chasing pervert saw the shift to NTR and chased the trend. The result? Artists who are dispassionate about the fetish are writing story and making renders for a fetish that doesn't get their dicks hard. So the end product is inauthentic and inert.
Then there's the up-and-comer NTR artists and developers who do care about the fetish, but who fail to understand it--and themselves--on an intimate level. They believe that the NTR is in showing the cliché situations instead of the build-up and betrayal leading up to those moments. And so these artists go through their checklist ("Show her having sex while holding a phone, "include the ahegao missionary press") but also end up with an inferior product. They don't understand the craft.
So the genre altogether diminishes in quality, which is odd to the eyes of an outside observer who sees a man standing in a pond but dying of thirst. He cannot see the bacteria in the water to understand that the man is surrounded by liquid but it's undrinkable.
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Statement 1: There are less games
Statement 2: numbers are steady. quality isn't what it used to be.
Firstly, the second statement contradicts the first, ending the original argument. Admitting there are NOT less games.
Secondly, moving from quantity to quality is moving the goalposts because they are two separate things. You are in fact creating a new argument.
i.e. There are only 500 games
No there are 1500 games
Ok, there are 1500 games but only 500 are worth playing....
This is your personal opinion and it is not supported by the facts. One, there is a steady flow of games. Two, there is a steady flow of pirating these games. This means that they are not only visible on the few buying sites but now also visible on the many pirating sites.
The mistake you made and many others make is you made a generalized blanket statement instead of keeping it personal.
If you had said, "There are a lot fewer ntr games for me to play because many/most don't suite my tastes." your point would have had merit. Instead you made a factually incorrect blanket statement.
No it doesn't, going off you what you described it would / should create two different impressions, one, that there are fewer GOOD games and two, that there are more BAD games. You are actively ignoring the bad games and focusing on the good ones, fewer good games then becomes fewer games, which is factually incorrect because the bad games exists even if you don't want them too.
It clearly is nostalgia and overexposure, given that you would include in your statement, "community buzz and the consistent hits that made an impact." There is only a handful that made an impact, like scars of summer which spawned a large number of copy cats. Claiming that this was consistent is just factually wrong.
They do tell the whole story for everyone because they involve the numbers from everyone, not just you. Again this is the problem when making blanket statements instead of personal ones.