Why is netori as rare as it is?

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Agree from a technical stand point, but the writing is different, the slant is different. No self insertion required to be able to pick up on the difference between netorare writing and netori writing. One is aimed at destruction of the MCs self esteem, the other is aimed at being a power fantasy for the MC. Perspective in writing is important.
Another thing I noticed is that not many netori games(male protagonist games in general) don't have ugly bastard for a protagonist, but they are present in NTR. Male players obviously prefer to see MC's girlfriend/wife be taken by ugly bastards instead to be. :unsure:
 

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This may be a bit off-topic. Can Stockholm syndrome only be found in girls?
 

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I'll never understand that particular trope. And the fact that the larger percentage of ugly bastard netorare involves coercion or rape of some kind. Bleh.
What I understood is that they like old and ugly with young and beautiful tainted...I prefer realistic scenario, a corruption and NTR works better if a guy is attractive young or old because it'd much more tempting and difficult to resist to be bad. Coercion/blackmail/non con is giving power trip but it's not interesting like slow burn corruption. Anyway, the only NTR game that's actually good is Seeds of Chaos.
 

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What I understood is that they like old and ugly with young and beautiful tainted...I prefer realistic scenario, a corruption and NTR works better if a guy is attractive young or old because it'd much more tempting and difficult to resist to be bad. Coercion/blackmail/non con is giving power trip but it's not interesting like slow burn corruption. Anyway, the only NTR game which is actually good is Seeds of Chaos.
Our Red String is good too...though the netorare in that is pretty tame. It's just a good story.
 
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Damn, now I can't stop thinking about gladiator protagonist seducing Emperor's-his dominus wife, sister/or daughter. :unsure:
 
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I was wondering the same thing. When I play as a FMC, I'm interested in her being pursued by guys and if there's some amount of NTR, I prefer to see FMC get stolen. If there's Netori, I won't mind if FMC is a bad girl stealing other female characters' men. I'm not interested in the classic type of NTR from a male type of view, nor I don't see the appeal of it. It's just fucked up. I wouldn't want to see FMC in that role, I mean what's the appeal in watching another character steal your MC's loved one? I'm playing FMC game to my character be in the center of attention, so male characters fight over for her. NTR invokes some form of masochistic tendencies. It's funny that those players who say they hate NTR in male protagonist games don't hate NTR in FMC(cheating). I guess Netori equals a dominant male protagonist(villain) but the majority of male Devs don't know how to write one which is peculiar. I think that every kink have psychological explanation.
You might like my game... good chunk of the story is told from FMC POV.
 

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I think Netori is best when it is a parody of Netorare with humorous aspect (EG: NTR Legend and their clones with Persona style Calendar, idk why they always have to animate that tbh) or when it is wholesome (Saving Mrs Hinako)

The heavier side of it puts people off. I think in general people like to play as the "good" guy.
 

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I think Netori is best when it is a parody of Netorare with humorous aspect (EG: NTR Legend and their clones with Persona style Calendar, idk why they always have to animate that tbh) or when it is wholesome (Saving Mrs Hinako)

The heavier side of it puts people off. I think in general people like to play as the "good" guy.
Every version of ntr's heavy side puts people off accept for the most extreme of the enjoyers, but you'll always find a market.
 

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I always get confused by these, but I feel like there is a good number of male main character games/comics/stories about stealing the married girl.

Usually in these though they don't go much into the life of the lady/ladies he is stealing and sexing up, and it is just kind of a "random office milf" kind of thing, or she's married to the boss or something and you hijack her away.

I see a lot of these in literotica too it's a pretty common thing I think.

But the whole neto* thing always confuses me on who is doing the what to a who.

Just somewhere in the story there better damn well be a phone. :ROFLMAO:
 
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  • Netorare: Unwilling cuck [mood click]
  • Netorase: Willing cuck [never click]
  • Netori: MC does the cucking [always click]
The issue is that in all three scenarios the women is also involved with someone else, so in all three scenarios you are being cucked as the the 'side piece'.

i.e. if you change the narrative slightly - a game focuses on a female, she goes and seduced a married man. That man is still married and banging his wife. You are still the side piece.

So as the primary focus of a game its not really that popular (people into that jump into NTR wholesale), however within games it is an extremely common occurrence and there are many many games where it exists. However its incidental, i.e. 'meet character A, would you like to romance character A. Character B is the sister of Character A, and is married. Would you like to romance character B. Or would you like to romance A & B.'

basically its everywhere in games just not the primary focus of games.

Another thing I noticed is that not many netori games(male protagonist games in general) don't have ugly bastard for a protagonist, but they are present in NTR. Male players obviously prefer to see MC's girlfriend/wife be taken by ugly bastards instead to be. :unsure:
I think its more that games with a 'good looking' MC are more of the power fantasy game where you are the bestest most handsome most charismatic on earth and cannot be resisted. Ugly can be either the 'other' power fantasy where ugly= bad person, or It might just be 'i cant be bothered to put work into this character because im wanting to look at the other things'. Rarely are the ugly characters drawn/modelled extremely well, they are usually minimalist.
 
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The issue is that in all three scenarios the women is also involved with someone else, so in all three scenarios you are being cucked as the the 'side piece'.

i.e. if you change the narrative slightly - a game focuses on a female, she goes and seduced a married man. That man is still married and banging his wife. You are still the side piece.

So as the primary focus of a game its not really that popular (people into that jump into NTR wholesale), however within games it is an extremely common occurrence and there are many many games where it exists. However its incidental, i.e. 'meet character A, would you like to romance character A. Character B is the sister of Character A, and is married. Would you like to romance character B. Or would you like to romance A & B.'

basically its everywhere in games just not the primary focus of games.
Agree from a technical stand point, but the writing is different, the slant is different. No self insertion required to be able to pick up on the difference between netorare writing and netori writing. One is aimed at destruction of the MCs self esteem, the other is aimed at being a power fantasy for the MC. Perspective in writing is important.
What the above means is that yeah, a wife seduced in a netorare game will sleep with someone else and she will prefer to be with that person instead of the MC. In a netori game a wife may sleep with their husband, but if they do, they'd much prefer to be with the MC and that's the power fantasy. If this still bothers you I can't help you with your own insecurity.
 
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tanstaafl

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I am insecure for objectively explaining? Are you just trying to start internet arguments to stroke your ego?
Objectively explaining the incredibly obvious is it's own indicator, especially if you explain it as a negative. It's also incorrect reasoning about why netori is rare, since netorare and netorase, which have much more of what you were trying to "objectively" warn about and are "objectively" pretty damn popular.
 
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Objectively explaining the incredibly obvious is it's own indicator, especially if you explain it as a negative. It's also incorrect reasoning about why netori is rare, since netorare and netorase, which have much more of what you were trying to "objectively" warn about and are "objectively" pretty damn popular.
You asked 'why is netori is as rare as it is'.
The issue is that in all three scenarios the women is also involved with someone else, so in all three scenarios you are being cucked as the the 'side piece'
'oh but as shes doing her husband she is thinking of you' is a very fine line to draw
...So as the primary focus of a game its not really that popular (people into that jump into NTR wholesale)
That is just the answer - it is a niche subcategory that is either overshadowed by its more popular cousin or de-prioritized and incidental to other other aspects of a game.

Some people love NTR, others do not. If you read that as a negative then you are projecting your own insecurities onto what is an emotionless statement.
 
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I read none of what you cherry picked from what you said as negative, because they weren't negative..which is why you cherry picked them.

That man is still married and banging his wife. You are still the side piece.
The above is what I read as negative and the source of your insecurity, because it is negative and the source of your insecurity. It is also objectively incorrect since the very point of netori is that you turn the husband (or wife if FMC) into the side piece.