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What pride have to do there exactly ?this will not stand, this wanton ignorance of Amerikas proud cultural heritage will not stand man.
Listen to your elders, brat!All your porn are belong to us.
Ok Boomer.Listen to your elders, brat!
This thread is like a history lesson for you, Futa lovers!
Futadom. Futadom never changes...All your porn are belong to us.
nah the chicks with dicks aka princk idea was pioneered in the us sub/counter culture by artists like stanton and was the main influence on jap stuff in the 80s. then that was reintroduced to the west as anime hentai manga bullshit.What pride have to do there exactly ?
Stanton brought back, to the eyes of the ignorant masses, what existed and was popular culture during centuries, when not millennium. It's all what he does, what is there to be proud of in this ?
"Hey, look, a guy almost everyone forgot about, did something that existed before his birth." Yeah, what a pride...
The first futanari in the pop culture come either (there's debate) from Hinduism/Buddhism or from the Japanese culture, both centuries ago. The first domme to become a pop icon was Ishtar, a Mesopotamian goddess, both lover and warrior. This while the first known femDom pop story, it's the folklore tale Phyllis and Aristotle, wrote in the 13th century ; and Phyllis come from the Greek mythology. It's not because, seen from modern eyes, this is now elitist content, that it wasn't the pop culture of those times.
Were there really a culture more popular than the Vedas in old India, or that religion in Mesopotamia ? Ishtar is so deep in the popular culture, that she's, with Baal, the only Mesopotamian deity to have survived through the times ; passing from a pop culture to another during more than five millennium.
Phyllis and Aristotle was told by minstrels traveling from town to town. Same, but in a different form, for Japanese tales and stories. It was, at those times, how the people entertained itself at a lesser cost, and therefore the pulp magazines of the pre-Guntenberg era.
As for the first mix of the twos, to my knowledge it goes back to Sade. Since his stories were wrote as real piece of life, the girls weren't effectively futa, but among the few dominant girls in his stories, some were wearing a strap-on time to time.
Now, all this being said, Stanton's first publication was named Phyllis...
Hmm, where have I seen this name in the last few minutes ? Oh, yeah, I remember now. Looks like Stanton took his inspiration in the Greek mythological figure that also inspired the first known femDom story. What a strange coincidence, isn't it ?
Except that it's not a question of art here.saying that stanton brought back what existed before is like saying picasso brought back styles that existed before.
Man, you should open some books time to time. What the fuck Romans Bacchanalia are doing as answer to a post talking about Mesopotamia, Hinduism, Buddhism, old Japan, and middle age Europe ? The only thing not too far is the secondary reference to the Greek Mythological figure that is Philly.point is if u think a 50s brooklyn artist coming up with the idea of "50s american female archetypes but with huge dicks and dominant" is the same as roman bacchanalia ur clearly reading too much wikipedia.
i literally said in the next sentence thats not true but he prob was one of the first to put it in the comic/pulp genre. which is modern pop culture not ancient religion. also a vertically gender-split hindu deity is not a chick with a dick. ppl who fap to chicks to dicks usually dont worship shiva. is hermaphroditism itself, or oedipal fantasy itself, a modern invention. nope, never said it was. but they are different in modernity than they were in antiquity because obviously. to conclude: stanton and/or his contemporaries did invent these concepts in the form we know and use them.You pretended that he invented "chick with dicks", and incidentally claim that he's one of the first to have depicted domme female characters. Not that he was the first artist to put one or the other into his art. And the fact is that anyway both claims are false.
While the common representations, both written, painted and sculpted, of Ardhanarishvara (the representation of Parvati being a full part of Shiva) is to split both vertically, there's also some rare (at least in regard of what survived through history) representation that are a "chick with a dick". There's also some Dosojin, among probably other minor Japaneses deities, that are depicted with both boobs and a dick. And those are only two examples that can be found in Human history. As for femDom, as I said the first known story is now near to be 900 years old, and is probably to count among Stanton's inspiration sources.
bc those mysteries and associated rituals dealt with many of the same concepts that a swingers club or davos afterparty might but the historical, socio-economic etc context is very different. which is likely to profoundly affect how those concepts are interpreted and realised. you think a billionaire chopping wood in 2023 is doing so for the same reason, with the same motivation etc. as an algonquin chopping wood in 1650?Man, you should open some books time to time. What the fuck Romans Bacchanalia are doing as answer to a post talking about Mesopotamia, Hinduism, Buddhism, old Japan, and middle age Europe ? The only thing not too far is the secondary reference to the Greek Mythological figure that is Philly.
It really looks like you'll die if not everyone agree on this, so let's say that I agree...to conclude: stanton and/or his contemporaries did invent these concepts in the form we know and use them.