why shouldn't it be .... the last update is not that long ago , just a little bit over 2 month
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Is there an estimated launch date for the next version?
Reason I ask is because I've got a modded & lightly debugged 0.24ac I'm thinking of uploading (if it's OK by Ninoss) but if there's another version about to drop I'll wait and apply the changes to that.
I'm kind of assuming Ninoss is OK with user mods or he wouldn't have included the source files.
Reason I ask is because I've got a modded & lightly debugged 0.24ac I'm thinking of uploading (if it's OK by Ninoss) but if there's another version about to drop I'll wait and apply the changes to that.
I'm kind of assuming Ninoss is OK with user mods or he wouldn't have included the source files.
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(tip: download as zip)Ninoss Not sure if you are interested; forgot if my other vids were for Examination day or for WTM. Anyways: enjoy.
Next ver should come early May I think. Many things have changed in to code and I fiwed some bugs here and there too.
You can sent me what was the issues if you want
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But hasn't early May come and gone? You made me double check my calendar.Next ver should come early May I think. Many things have changed in to code and I fiwed some bugs here and there too.
You can sent me what was the issues if you want
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I'm new to the forum and aren't sure which bugs I fixed were already reported but most of what I've done isn't bug swatting but trying to give players more control over game balance and playing style.
You've encouraged fans to add data but the problem is extra data tends to break the game (e.g. by the time there's a dozen or so sponsors the money is pouring in and becomes irrelevant to gameplay), so I've redone the 'Settings' screen with bars for several new player settable multipliers and changed the scripts accordingly. I've also added more steps to some PTA meeting rules (maxGirls8, maxGirls11, maxGirls15, photoClubNudity, photoClubPorn, photoClubHardcore). Apart from that I've added some screen info, changed some aesthetics and tweaked some calculations (e.g. added relative weight to 't4', 't5' and 't6' tags in calculating 'kinky').
I've also added a fair amount of data and tweaked some of the data from Ninoss, Jordan and GDiggers, mostly to make it more integrated and playable.
If you're interested I can post more details about the changes along with some screenshots later.
For me this has mostly been an exercise in familiarizing myself with ren'py scripting, so I'm not fussed as to whether anyone else uses my mods. I'm just grateful to Ninoss for making his source available for newbie scripters like me to mess with. Later this year I expect to start developing my own game with the lessons I've learned from fiddling with WTM Academy.
Try anonfiles or torrent, you might have better luck. I don't know why your mod would even get deleted, it's not breaking any TOS of file upload sites afaik.
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Why not?
You've just gotta code your calendar in ren'py so you can roll it back.
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So I figure Ninoss meant the next version is expected in early June, so I'm planning to wait for that and apply my changes to the new version before uploading it. If there's still no new version by mid-June I'll probably just upload what I've got.
But as far as I'm concerned Ninoss retains implicit copyright on WTM, so if he doesn't want divergent versions in the public domain he's just gotta say so and I won't upload it. It's not like I'm making a long term commitment to maintaining and updating it anyway.
Here's a shot of the current Settings screen that more or less says where I'm going with this. It's mostly about making the game more adaptable to different preferences, playing styles and quality/quantity of additional data.
But as far as I'm concerned Ninoss retains implicit copyright on WTM, so if he doesn't want divergent versions in the public domain he's just gotta say so and I won't upload it. It's not like I'm making a long term commitment to maintaining and updating it anyway.
Here's a shot of the current Settings screen that more or less says where I'm going with this. It's mostly about making the game more adaptable to different preferences, playing styles and quality/quantity of additional data.
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That looks really clean tbh !
From what I can see it's more like a cheat mod than a settings menu but you can publish it as a mod if you want
But yeah as I was saying, it's better to wait until the new ver comes out or to avoid it just crashing when the game is updated.
If they are some adjustments in the base game that needs to be done to be more mod-friendly/improve compatibility and avoid you to change bits of code here and there at each update, you can contact me on the Discord
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Yeah, but as you probably noticed I'm following your lead here. A lot of it comes from the previous settings screen you had coming off the home screen. That's just DEBUG stuff now.
The sliders are about adjusting the game to different data sets, so I figure they're legitimately settings though they can also serve as cheats.
The buttons are straight up cheats.
Thanks for that, I'll probably take you up on it but for now I'll wait for the update and see how I go applying the mods.
I'd never written in ren'py or python until a month ago but I've got a professional background in debugging, maintaining and upgrading other people's code, so I'll probably manage OK.
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One thing you might be able to help a ren'py newbie like me with is if you know of any way of either overwriting scripts or functions within them with updated versions during the game load.
I noticed you have a scripts_mods directory and initially assumed ren'py would load from 'scripts' then overwrite the initial loads from 'scripts_mods', as this would allow excellent control over user defined mods (i.e. to revert to a vanilla version you'd just have to delete the contents of 'scripts_mods'). But I soon learned that redefining ren'py functions, labels, screens, etc during loading just generates fatal loading errors.
If you know of any way around that I'd sure appreciate a tip.
So, thoughts after playing this for awhile on the most recent update:
1. The user interface has improved significantly since I last played, which is a major plus. I'm sure this was a lot of little changes adding up, but still, hats off to the developer.
2. I finally came to grips with the whole sponsor system! And... it's fine. It feels weirdly complicated given the origins of this game, however, I've gotten to the point where I understand it enough for it to get out of my way, essentially. It helps that sponsors can be pleased now without photoshoots, which helps earn money before the photo club gets unlocked, and prevents a death spiral that can emerge from the player lacking access to photos I encountered several versions ago. With that said, I don't get a lot out of these mechanics, and it's frustrating, because Ninoss had to do a lot of work for a set of mechanics that are okay, but I feel can cause a lot of frustration to this day.
3. The new public use legislation premise feels unnecessary compared to the original premise of a school sabotaging its students to stay afloat. Both are divorced from reality(as they should be given the flavors of this game), however, the new one is just... more complicated than it needs to be. I guess the idea is it helps justify the sponsorship system, but still.
4. The future looks bright, given the update coming up in June allows the player to corrupt mothers, and something I saw suggest we might be seeing a hint of the sex addict feature from Examination Day making a comeback. Most of my excitement for this stuff is it gets us away from the focus on the sponsorship system, which I really do not think can take any additional complexity, and re-focuses the game on being a corruption centric porn game.
Otherwise, I'd be interested to see people try to re-create Examination Day through a mod, or perhaps multiple mods. What I mean by this is a mod that cuts out the photo club and sponsorship stuff, somehow adds the sex addict mechanic, and otherwise re-embraces the kind of elegant simplicity Examination Day had. I wouldn't want the main game to go in this direction at this point, but I'm curious how WTM's updated mechanics would play with Examination Day's premise. Also because that game has been abandoned for awhile now, and I want people to be able to enjoy the original concept that inspired WTM Academy without having to worry about say, the download links for said title expiring or something.
1. The user interface has improved significantly since I last played, which is a major plus. I'm sure this was a lot of little changes adding up, but still, hats off to the developer.
2. I finally came to grips with the whole sponsor system! And... it's fine. It feels weirdly complicated given the origins of this game, however, I've gotten to the point where I understand it enough for it to get out of my way, essentially. It helps that sponsors can be pleased now without photoshoots, which helps earn money before the photo club gets unlocked, and prevents a death spiral that can emerge from the player lacking access to photos I encountered several versions ago. With that said, I don't get a lot out of these mechanics, and it's frustrating, because Ninoss had to do a lot of work for a set of mechanics that are okay, but I feel can cause a lot of frustration to this day.
3. The new public use legislation premise feels unnecessary compared to the original premise of a school sabotaging its students to stay afloat. Both are divorced from reality(as they should be given the flavors of this game), however, the new one is just... more complicated than it needs to be. I guess the idea is it helps justify the sponsorship system, but still.
4. The future looks bright, given the update coming up in June allows the player to corrupt mothers, and something I saw suggest we might be seeing a hint of the sex addict feature from Examination Day making a comeback. Most of my excitement for this stuff is it gets us away from the focus on the sponsorship system, which I really do not think can take any additional complexity, and re-focuses the game on being a corruption centric porn game.
Otherwise, I'd be interested to see people try to re-create Examination Day through a mod, or perhaps multiple mods. What I mean by this is a mod that cuts out the photo club and sponsorship stuff, somehow adds the sex addict mechanic, and otherwise re-embraces the kind of elegant simplicity Examination Day had. I wouldn't want the main game to go in this direction at this point, but I'm curious how WTM's updated mechanics would play with Examination Day's premise. Also because that game has been abandoned for awhile now, and I want people to be able to enjoy the original concept that inspired WTM Academy without having to worry about say, the download links for said title expiring or something.
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I guess that depends on how much you want a story and how much you just want to do tasks to see porn. No matter how good the back story is it's gonna be irrelevant and tedious after a few playthroughs, but a good one can draw first time players in enough to make them want to work through the grind to unlock further plot elements.
I agree the premise could do with some work, but see a couple of different possible directions.
A minimalist version would have the school charging no fees and instead funding itself from commissions on the work it finds for students with local businesses (sponsors), so instead of graduating with a crippling student loan debt the students end up with both work experience and savings.
A more elaborate version with more potential for a bit of humour, politics and story development would have the free use laws as a backlash against an earlier regime of Swedish style consent laws and #MeToo inspired legislative overreach that had filled the prisons with people who hadn't had a comprehensive legal document drafted and signed before having sex, telling dirty jokes or allowing their hands or eyes to stray.
In either case I think the game and its story would benefit from more interaction between the Academy and wider community, including legal authorities, 'moral majority' protesters and politicians with dodgy agendas. Once I get my current mods bedded down into the upcoming version I'll probably start coding a bit of that sort of thing myself.
To have a premise I'd like(but probably wouldn't work for various reasons), maybe a backlash against a religious regime, like the one in Sisterly Lust? (If you haven't played that game, it depicts America becoming a scary Christian theocracy type place in the background, although I think there are routes that prevent it). I say this because I actually really like the idea of a premise about breaking religious indoctrination, as it would more directly deal with the game's corruption themes. This is probably best for a mod, but hopefully interesting food for thought.
Other ideas would be your school is actually being used to conduct various experiments, social and otherwise, by the government, but that's just a way for me to get stuff like breast expansion in the game which is WAY outside the creator's scope. This would be a setting that makes fun itself a lot through like, a ridiculous mad scientist character you're interacting with, and stuff like that, as this would otherwise get a bit dark.
With all that said, I feel like more elaborate premises are maybe best saved for mods, while the base game has a simple excuse plot, as WTM Academy feels like it should be a blank slate people add their own ideas to. I say this because while the base game can be good, the most fun I've had with it so far has been a Japan themed mod from... a lot of updates ago at this point that showed how flexible the core game actually was.
For interaction with the wider community, I think corrupting the moms is a good first step towards that, which is coming in the next update, so I think Ninoss has the same idea in that regard.