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TheFamilyDog

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The sales game hasn't really changed that much since the early days when I started playing. Look far enough back in this thread and you will see me complaining about it. But once I learned the rules and figured-out a system, I had characters with over $25K in no time. Later versions of the game, lowered the commissions somewhat and give one a lot more stuff to waste their money on. Yet its still not hard to build up a fortune, now it just takes a little longer and you need to budget your expensive.

So choosing not to do pill demonstration is a choice, and I doubt Aphrodite do anything since she has a vision to what the game is about. So I would suggest talking to one of the mod-folks and see if one could convince them or just recode the game yourself. Its downloadable and open source, so it shouldn't be that hard to fix your issues and maybe even create your own mod for folks that have the same problem with the game.

Win, win as they say...
 
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DavDR

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The sales game hasn't really changed that much since the early days when I started playing. Look far enough back in this thread and you will see me complaining about it. But once I learned the rules and figured-out a system, I had characters with over $25K in no time. Later versions of the game, lowered the commissions somewhat and give one a lot more stuff to waste their money on. Yet its still not hard to build up a fortune, now it just takes a little longer and you need to budget your expensive.

So choosing not to do pill demonstration is a choice, and I doubt Aphrodite do anything since she has a vision to what the game is about. So I would suggest talking to one of the mod-folks and see if one could convince them or just recode the game yourself. Its downloadable and open source, so it shouldn't be that hard to fix your issues and maybe even create your own mod for folks that have the same problem with the game.

Win, win as they say...
Or, I can go on deciding for myself what I like and don't like and all of you white knights can just mind your own business.
 

miyuki25

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No, because in that scenario I can make a choice of rather to do the demo or not. Remember that doing a demo will use up a workday. It cost you money to take an entire day away from the office to demonstrate a product so of course any reasonable person is going to calculate if that time is worth it or not.
Well, so what about a person who spends two work days on the Secretary job in order to upgrade their lead to a High-Volume Qualified one, only for it to roll fairly low on pillable employees (let's say ~24), followed by a low roll on the purchase quantity when it comes to the phone sale (bringing us to ~12). Do you take issue with this too for being arbitrary?
 
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scannatore

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Well, so what about a person who spends two work days on the Secretary job in order to upgrade their lead to a High-Volume Qualified one, only for it to roll fairly low on pillable employees (let's say ~24), followed by a low roll on the purchase quantity when it comes to the phone sale (bringing us to ~12). Do you take issue with this too for being arbitrary?
You can always reroll. Low customers? Reload the page.
Bad phone sale? Reload the page.
It's easy. It's fast.
You want to make 2 perfect sales? Save after the first one, and reload until you get what you want.
 
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Does reloading the page to reroll things work fine for you? I'd be very worried about this being a fast track to corrupting your save.

(Also, IMO work is currently on the easy side. It's pretty straightforward, just buy decent leads (ideally high-volume) and avoid demos; the best pill to sell money-wise is almost always H&R or GG Petite.)
 

tooldev

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Not being a sales person, I just a slight idea about how it works. So, I meant that, in my case, I just take the in-game sales job as an action to support the rest pf the story, the big picture. Never cared too much on how realistic it is and actually, I really don't know how many of all players could be able to detect that kind of "distortion" as well. Same way I can't tell a 20 yo good whiskey from a not so bad one, just lack the knowledge and taste to do that. Anyway, for the sake of accuracy the more accurate is always, the best.
I gave that example to clarify the reasoning against just dilly dallying with this stuff. Some play the game very casual, others keep an eye on the management features and others just randomly go through the entire thing. Nobody denies this part. But when something uses quite a bit of effort in a process and the result is not what is expected it is fair to raise that point. Immersion is different for different persons and the original poster of the problem obviously shares the same issue with the immersion breaking part as others here.

If the idea was to force you as the player into the female submission part whatever your choice, then that should be made clear. Since the player is given choices, these should be handled properly.
 
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TheFamilyDog

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Or, I can go on deciding for myself what I like and don't like and all of you white knights can just mind your own business.
Not to be Mr. Obvious here, but often I had the same opinion as above but I just don't post it. Cus when you post something on this forum, you kinda imply the desire for conversation. And if you keep posting, this whole "I'm going to take my football and go home" vibe just falls apart. Get in, explain your viewpoint and get out and I think most folks would be fine with it.

Play the game however you wish, hack the game code into whatever witches brew you want. We're cool with it, as I'm sure Aphrodite is as well (as she's said in previous posts in this thread), but X-Change Life will never become "Breaking Bad" the non-porn pill slinging game. Now I think about it, even in Breaking Bad there was at times a "alteration" previously agreed to prices. That's because a t.v show or game be pretty boring if you only had a single choice in any situation. In fact, for some time I've been thinking of playing a session of XCL where I don't get a office job at all. Make my money with rich boytoys and gambling. Afternoons at the mall or beach, nights at home watching movies or at the bar breaking hearts.
 
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shasteracki

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Or, I can go on deciding for myself what I like and don't like and all of you white knights can just mind your own business.
Fine with that. You RP how you like.


Just FWIW, this phenomenon can cut both ways. I had a sale for 20 pills, did the demo, and it revised to 42. massively more profitable even before the commission bump.

I looked at the code as well. The code has no issues in it that indicate this being a bug. Whether it's intended behavior is up to Aphrodite.
 
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DavDR

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Not to be Mr. Obvious here, but often I had the same opinion as above but I just don't post it. Cus when you post something on this forum, you kinda imply the desire for conversation. And if you keep posting, this whole "I'm going to take my football and go home" vibe just falls apart. Get in, explain your viewpoint and get out and I think most folks would be fine with it.

Play the game however you wish, hack the game code into whatever witches brew you want. We're cool with it, as I'm sure Aphrodite is as well (as she's said in previous posts in this thread), but X-Change Life will never become "Breaking Bad" the non-porn pill slinging game. Now I think about it, even in Breaking Bad there was at times a "alteration" previously agreed to prices. That's because a t.v show or game be pretty boring if you only had a single choice in any situation. In fact, for some time I've been thinking of playing a session of XCL where I don't get a office job at all. Make my money with rich boytoys and gambling. Afternoons at the mall or beach, nights at home watching movies or at the bar breaking hearts.
I've already explained my preference's, repeatedly. Nothing obliges me to respond to endless nitpicking about my opinions.

I like a game with choices, and I want those choices to matter.
 

TheFamilyDog

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I am so confused now... because if you add in spending time as a secretary (and buying up leads or no demo) and all those choices during the sale process. Its what, something like over a dozen choices to get to the final roll with making the sale. And even if one does everything correct you still can fail (RNG games, got to love them!).

And now i think about it, also what to wear and in what gender (+2 Baby!), where you're stats are (shower, gym, coffee) also are choices in the sale game. It won't be hard to make a cheat sheet with the best choices to get the highest cash payout but you're still at the mercy of the RNG gods.

Still it be a interesting experiment, and easy enough since I can knock-off the Secretary side with easy. Those bonus with the pricey pills with a big order and no demo, should net one enough after a few tries. Gold watches for us all!
 

shasteracki

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In jade's unique gym scene (got via NewU if it matters)

Code:
You can only access position strings/numbers ('4th', 'last', '2ndlast', (2), etc.), slices ('1stTo2ndlast', '3rdTo5th'), 'length', 'some', 'any', 'all', 'start', 'end', and 'random' of the string "jade stylin slutty sweater dress", not "panties under".
I tried to access a value in a string/array/datamap, but I couldn't find it.
 

cpius

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I personally think it would make more sense for a successful sales demo to generally increase the amount sold or else keep it the same. An unexplained big drop in the amount seems odd. It would maybe be okay if there would be some explanation, but without an explanation it seems like a bug to me.

Reading the code, it does not seem like it is a random roll, at least not to me. It looks like it basically toggles between the products "minimum sale" and the company's eligible employees. Usually you'll want it to be the latter, but on your first sale it will be the former.

There are two toggles though, one for office sales and one for demo sales. So you can have the following unfortunate scenario:

- Office sale (low amount)
- Office sale (high amount), converted to demo =>
- Demo sale (low amount)

It would maybe make sense for the toggle to be shared between the two somehow. Or maybe it could simply carry over the amount.

Anyway, this all assumes I can read and understand twine, which is certainly not a given .

Here is the code for anyone interested:




You can just search for something like "considering your commission rate of".
 
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Anyway, this all assumes I can read and understand twine, which is certainly not a given .
You're basically right, yeah - there is randomness but only a bit of it (there are at most 12 different outcomes for a sale), and when a demo is finished a duplicate of the same code (which probably shouldn't exist at all, tbh, better to merge them into one passage) is called instead of reusing the variables generated by the first run.
 

miyuki25

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Has anyone done this achievemet? I just have no idea.

Find a way to be impregnated despite only being on an X-Change Basic
I'm not sure if there are other ways too, but one way is to be playing as Jade (listed as "a busty Asian goddess?" on the New-U selection menu), buy her "Athletic Swimsuit" gym outfit, and visit the gym (if this is your first time visiting the gym with that outfit I believe it can trigger on any day of the week, otherwise you need to visit on a Tuesday when it's not raining). During the subsequent pool scene your pregnancy chance increases temporarily for each orgasm, due to the application of a special oil, and this can raise Basic's chance above 0%.
 
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