You were doxxed !!!

CobraPL

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If you added your non-incognito e-mail (e.g. including your real name or searchable via Google) in services like:
Patreon, Buy Me A Coffe, maybe Subscribestar, PayPal.
Game authors SEE your email. It is NOT for service's discretion.
I even saw a situation - game author sent an email to all his patrons without hiding recipients. Every one of them saw e-mail addresses of rest of them.

So, guys, for porn sites etc. have dedicated trash-email. Paypal may still show your real name!
 
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If you added your non-incognito e-mail (e.g. including your real name or searchable via Google) in services like:
Patreon, Buy Me A Coffe, maybe Subscribestar, PayPal.
Game authors SEE your email. It is NOT for service's discretion.
I even saw a situation - game author sent an email to all his patrons without hiding recipients. Every one of them saw e-mail addresses of rest of them.

So, guys, for porn sites etc. have dedicated trash-email. Paypal may still show your real name!
Don't worry. No one has time to go stalking some random people with "beebro7852XXsds@hotmail.com" emails.
If you have a salty dev, report him to Patreon and offer him to suck a dick.
And no. Patreon doesn't show any other information about a person, just a nickname and email (probably useful for contacting, sending physical pledge rewards, etc). All the extra added info like pledge level, date of joining shouldn't matter.
 
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CobraPL

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Like I said, some people may have an email with syntax like donald.trump@gmail.com, often put on Patreon before they started visiting p0rn sites. And they forgot they have real name, real birthdate in some places.
And then their name may leak.
Like I said - I suggest dedicated elusive email.
 

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Like I said, some people may have an email with syntax like donald.trump@gmail.com, often put on Patreon before they started visiting p0rn sites. And they forgot they have real name, real birthdate in some places.
And then their name may leak.
Like I said - I suggest dedicated elusive email.
I think they should worry more about their twitter, facebook accounts rather than some lonely porn dev in his basement. :HideThePain:
Obviously, using the real name as identification on the internet is not smart, but Google will probably show like 10000000 related searches.
Everyone should have separate school/business and personal unidentifiable email. The issue is not following common sense rather than some dev seeing your email. It's more risk to use your email on random sites than on Patreon, especially when forums databases leaks happen so often.
 
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If you added your non-incognito e-mail (e.g. including your real name or searchable via Google) in services like:
Patreon, Buy Me A Coffe, maybe Subscribestar, PayPal.
Game authors SEE your email. It is NOT for service's discretion.
I even saw a situation - game author sent an email to all his patrons without hiding recipients. Every one of them saw e-mail addresses of rest of them.

So, guys, for porn sites etc. have dedicated trash-email. Paypal may still show your real name!
This is true, I can see my patrons emails. However i am bound either by my own countries Data Protection laws, or that of Patreons, as well as any and all private business policies on data they have themselves as a private company.

That notwithstanding however, me revealing emails, or using them vindictively is not only highly unprofessional but logically with word of mouth and forums, there is no quicker way to tank a developers support than to do that crap. Only a fool bites the hand that feeds them.
 

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This is true, I can see my patrons emails. However i am bound either by my own countries Data Protection laws, or that of Patreons, as well as any and all private business policies on data they have themselves as a private company.

That notwithstanding however, me revealing emails, or using them vindictively is not only highly unprofessional but logically with word of mouth and forums, there is no quicker way to tank a developers support than to do that crap. Only a fool bites the hand that feeds them.
Every site which has content creator+sub mechanics shows the same info. That includes itch.io, twitch, and probably youtube, and like 99% of other similar sites. And yes, you're right. Using email in that way would firstly break platform TOS. Then as you said Data Protection laws etc.
 

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If you added your non-incognito e-mail (e.g. including your real name or searchable via Google) in services like:
Patreon, Buy Me A Coffe, maybe Subscribestar, PayPal.
Game authors SEE your email. It is NOT for service's discretion.
And you don't even thought at all the possibilities offered by this forum. The admins know your e-mail address, your IP address, the games you decided to follow, your ratings if you wrote reviews, and so on. What a marvelous analytic base they have. But what Icarus Media said regarding authors also apply here, it would hurt them really hard to use this.
Anyway, why would one believe that Internet is something else than a giant public place ? Everything should be assumed to be public by default, period. After, what information you decide to provide is up to you.

This being said, it's interesting that you fear about an e-mail address, while installing on your computer games that can have access to everything that is on your hard drive. You should worry more about the configuration of your IP filter than what e-mail address you used when registering on Patreon or whatever.
 

CobraPL

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Guys, don't focus on story about dev sharing email, since AFAIK it was a mistake on his side.
I just tell ya, that there are too many scenarios (like dev hacked, email list leaked) where real names and/or non-dedicated emails may leak.

Also, your arguments seems sophistic. Like "you should worry more about X".
Anyway, main purpose of this thread is to suggest people review their emails and other data on services like forums, Patreon, PayPal etc.