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Interesting, so probably the plan to handcuff Nika is from Coach Hill? Then i have to add that bitch to the list too :devilish:

It makes sense that in a way to keep the team united and concentrated, Coach Hill gave them the handcuffs , but this is a brave movement for her part. She doesn´t know how can react Nika so is an all or nothing bet, because if Nika react bad then she could has lost a player , but well, that didn´t happen so (y)

But then we have the foot of Zara, i don´t think that part was an idea from Coach Hill too, and it seems this action of Zara was more a sporadic action, because she is leaving but then she returns an put her foot in his mouth , is this action what upset me more, is like a direct threat to Nika, and i´m pretty sure anyone will let slide if someone put a foot in our mouth, without consent ;):sneaky:

About the favors i think Nadia is one of the most important girls to have in debt, she is popular, has a reputation to be undateable and she is friend with Bella´s group and Zara, good connections.

Edit, i forget to mention the idea of use Nami for take Nika to the locker room : It can be possible that is just the idea who had Robin for call Nika´s attention? Or maybe is something more?

Zara and Nadia said that they didn´t know even what to do when Nika was handcuffed so i suppose it wasn´t their idea. But they said they were harsh with Robin, how hard? Now i want to know what debt Robin had with Zara for do that...
If you haven't done a non Bella path, it is worth doing to see all the different perspectives. Even things like not going to the gym with Jeff adds new information that you don't get. I think the simplest way to see it is you can't get all the same dialogues depending on who you take to the gym, so you have to reload to see them all, the whole game is like that. Although the choices seem small, later on, they often have revealed something in context. So if you do a non Bella path don't go on the heist so she breaks you balls, you visit Claire, find out more about Coach Hill. Then don't say you make a good team with Bella, and you don't kiss her (the options probably not there if you don't go on the heist), you'll get the alternate scene where Marla rescues you instead of Bella, it's hilarious, but you learn a lot about the coach, and Nadia and Zara owe you.
 

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Interesting, so probably the plan to handcuff Nika is from Coach Hill? Then i have to add that bitch to the list too :devilish:

It makes sense that in a way to keep the team united and concentrated, Coach Hill gave them the handcuffs , but this is a brave movement for her part. She doesn´t know how can react Nika so is an all or nothing bet, because if Nika react bad then she could has lost a player , but well, that didn´t happen so (y)

But then we have the foot of Zara, i don´t think that part was an idea from Coach Hill too, and it seems this action of Zara was more a sporadic action, because she is leaving but then she returns an put her foot in his mouth , is this action what upset me more, is like a direct threat to Nika, and i´m pretty sure anyone will let slide if someone put a foot in our mouth, without consent ;):sneaky:

About the favors i think Nadia is one of the most important girls to have in debt, she is popular, has a reputation to be undateable and she is friend with Bella´s group and Zara, good connections.

Edit, i forget to mention the idea of use Nami for take Nika to the locker room : It can be possible that is just the idea who had Robin for call Nika´s attention? Or maybe is something more?

Zara and Nadia said that they didn´t know even what to do when Nika was handcuffed so i suppose it wasn´t their idea. But they said they were harsh with Robin, how hard? Now i want to know what debt Robin had with Zara for do that...
I would have licked between her toe and said I saw you looking I know you liked what you saw. LI created.
 
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If you haven't done a non Bella path, it is worth doing to see all the different perspectives. Even things like not going to the gym with Jeff adds new information that you don't get. I think the simplest way to see it is you can't get all the same dialogues depending on who you take to the gym, so you have to reload to see them all, the whole game is like that. Although the choices seem small, later on, they often have revealed something in context. So if you do a non Bella path don't go on the heist so she breaks you balls, you visit Claire, find out more about Coach Hill. Then don't say you make a good team with Bella, and you don't kiss her (the options probably not there if you don't go on the heist), you'll get the alternate scene where Marla rescues you instead of Bella, it's hilarious, but you learn a lot about the coach, and Nadia and Zara owe you.
I have one non Bella path, but i went with her to the heist because i wanted to stole that Mario bitch, it seems that if you go to the heist Bella and Nika get closer, i didn´t want that just use Bella for stole Mario.

I´m going to try a Non Bella path without going to the heist . I want to find out if Bella and Nika get closer because Ocean want it or if is just because the heist is united by force with get closer to Bella.

Do you know how many saves we can do for season 2? I don´t know if is just one or if there are several "slots".
 

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So 2 have been done one the list. Nutshot and bella Nika fighting in class
'Might be a much, much more serious fight on the cards...

On the Bella path it's possible to play the field behind her back yet still tell her you want a relationship. On that path you can snog with Vic, Mila, Nami, and get touchy with Nia. We know Bella isn't two-faced and she talked to Nika about her fear of betrayal. (Bella: "If trust gets broken once... That's pretty much it... I can't forgive."). I can see this all ending badly if Nika continues to play the field behind Bella's back (this aside from Ayua beating Nika to a pulp).

And I'm seeing Mila in a slightly different light. I haven't done the appropriate path yet on a fresh Season 1 playthrough, but I recall Mila pulls back from pursuing Nika if she knows Nika is going on a date with Vic.

On the Bella path, Mila still aggressively pursues Nika given the chance (and if Nika let's her), even when she knows there's something between him and Bella. This, despite Nika saying earlier that his date with Mila would only be as friends now because of Bella. I'm starting to wonder if Mila would use Nika to get one up on Bella. (Nika: "Since you heard about me and Bella... Your body language towards me has changed. It's in some way aggressive." Mila: "Oh- uh... I didn't mean to come across like that." Nika: "But you did." Mila: "Is it so bad to not always be the one left empty handed? The one that always watches from the sidelines?!").
 

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I have one non Bella path, but i went with her to the heist because i wanted to stole that Mario bitch, it seems that if you go to the heist Bella and Nika get closer, i didn´t want that just use Bella for stole Mario.

I´m going to try a Non Bella path without going to the heist . I want to find out if Bella and Nika get closer because Ocean want it or if is just because the heist is united by force with get closer to Bella.

Do you know how many saves we can do for season 2? I don´t know if is just one or if there are several "slots".
You can do more than one, I don't know how many though. You get to name the save when you do it, so there really should be the potential for as many as your hard drive can fit.

I am just doing the one save for now,because I'll likely want to remind myself of all the different things as some of the choices start having consequences.

'Might be a much, much more serious fight on the cards...

On the Bella path it's possible to play the field behind her back yet still tell her you want a relationship. On that path you can snog with Vic, Mila, Nami, and get touchy with Nia. We know Bella isn't two-faced and she talked to Nika about her fear of betrayal. (Bella: "If trust gets broken once... That's pretty much it... I can't forgive."). I can see this all ending badly if Nika continues to play the field behind Bella's back (this aside from Ayua beating Nika to a pulp).

And I'm seeing Mila in a slightly different light. I haven't done the appropriate path yet on a fresh Season 1 playthrough, but I recall Mila pulls back from pursuing Nika if she knows Nika is going on a date with Vic.

On the Bella path, Mila still aggressively pursues Nika given the chance (and if Nika let's her), even when she knows there's something between him and Bella. This, despite Nika saying earlier that his date with Mila would only be as friends now because of Bella. I'm starting to wonder if Mila would use Nika to get one up on Bella. (Nika: "Since you heard about me and Bella... Your body language towards me has changed. It's in some way aggressive." Mila: "Oh- uh... I didn't mean to come across like that." Nika: "But you did." Mila: "Is it so bad to not always be the one left empty handed? The one that always watches from the sidelines?!").
I think the throuple paths are going to be quite intense. Bella pretty much doesn't care if you've kissed Vic, but is grossed out if you've kissed Mila, mainly because Mila broke Bella trust. And it's possible to get both Mila and Vic dates, you have to refuse Vic first, then ask Mila, then take Vic for a walk. It does feel like everyone knows almost instantly if you've been messing around.
 

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'Might be a much, much more serious fight on the cards...

On the Bella path it's possible to play the field behind her back yet still tell her you want a relationship. On that path you can snog with Vic, Mila, Nami, and get touchy with Nia. We know Bella isn't two-faced and she talked to Nika about her fear of betrayal. (Bella: "If trust gets broken once... That's pretty much it... I can't forgive."). I can see this all ending badly if Nika continues to play the field behind Bella's back (this aside from Ayua beating Nika to a pulp).

And I'm seeing Mila in a slightly different light. I haven't done the appropriate path yet on a fresh Season 1 playthrough, but I recall Mila pulls back from pursuing Nika if she knows Nika is going on a date with Vic.

On the Bella path, Mila still aggressively pursues Nika given the chance (and if Nika let's her), even when she knows there's something between him and Bella. This, despite Nika saying earlier that his date with Mila would only be as friends now because of Bella. I'm starting to wonder if Mila would use Nika to get one up on Bella. (Nika: "Since you heard about me and Bella... Your body language towards me has changed. It's in some way aggressive." Mila: "Oh- uh... I didn't mean to come across like that." Nika: "But you did." Mila: "Is it so bad to not always be the one left empty handed? The one that always watches from the sidelines?!").
Fuck that´s true, i want since i discover this game a girl who try to seduce Nika even if he is in a relationship and maybe this girl is Mila , what i don´t know is if she is going to try it only when Nika and Bella are just like fuck-buddies (but without the "fuck" for now) or if she is going to try to be with Nika even if he and Bella start a real relationship.

In my Bella path i´m more interested in Bella but my Nikas was in Nia´s house and they were touchy and he has a pending date with Mila so i will let them fight for Nika, yes, my main interest is Bella but:
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If I'm not mistaken, even if you don't go with Bella on the heist, it's still possible to have her way
 

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Okay, now I'm seriously intrigued. Who's that enchanting figure? She keeps popping up in the background, sometimes at the most perfect moments. Any theories?
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You know, it's kind of amusing how frequently her silhouette appears in the background. I mean, sure, she might be Sasha's bodyguard, but it feels like she's popping up more often than your average background security detail:

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Okay, now I'm seriously intrigued. Who's that enchanting figure? She keeps popping up in the background, sometimes at the most perfect moments. Any theories?
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You know, it's kind of amusing how frequently her silhouette appears in the background. I mean, sure, she might be Sasha's bodyguard, but it feels like she's popping up more often than your average background security detail:

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We're all very curious. Sasha's bodyguard is clearly known in Ch5, and we see her in Ch1 in the mensa.

Ocean also did a treat of her in the wallpapers (Treat_RedWhiteHairedBibi) of her at the farm. She dyes her hair after the first time we see her - in Ch1 you see her in a blue dress walking with Sasha and only red hair. So she's part of the dyed hair group that Ayua is part of (some sort of wager or bet lost to Sasha? I don't think a body guard would be involved). I suspect she's a student, but I also suspect she trains with Sasha - it almost appears that Sasha and she appear to break up the fight with Sai.
 

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I think the throuple paths are going to be quite intense. Bella pretty much doesn't care if you've kissed Vic, but is grossed out if you've kissed Mila, mainly because Mila broke Bella trust. And it's possible to get both Mila and Vic dates, you have to refuse Vic first, then ask Mila, then take Vic for a walk. It does feel like everyone knows almost instantly if you've been messing around.
There are many go-no go points throughout the game, but by the end of Ch 5, it's still possible to play around behind Bella's back without telling her anything or her knowing anything.
 

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About the healing theme in the game.

I'll probably touch on this topic in more detail after I replay the game, but for now I just want to briefly say that one of the main factors in what I'll think about the Holgersons' storyline and Bella specifically, will be what consequences Bella and Nika face. You can make any excuse you want, say how bad the Holgersons are, how evil Vanessa is and that they just wanted to help Mila and so on, but that doesn't change Nika and Bella's behavior. There was nothing smart about the heist and the attempt to use Vanessa. That was dumb. And then there's also the moral issue and the fact that they brought trouble on Mila. The moral side is especially about Bella. Look at what she did to the woman in the restaurant. To start her theme of healing, simple remorse is not enough. There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. Otherwise, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.
 
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Okay, now I'm seriously intrigued. Who's that enchanting figure? She keeps popping up in the background, sometimes at the most perfect moments. Any theories?
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The moment she and Sasha appear in the fight againts Sai is suspicious for me, the class finished and all of them leave, except Sai, the other guy and Nika, i think the girls listened the fight and decided to interrupt them , why? I don´t know.

Or maybe they forgot something, their bag or some books.

About the healing theme in the game.

I'll probably touch on this topic in more detail after I replay the game, but for now I just want to briefly say that one of the main factors in what I'll think about the Holgersons' storyline and Bella specifically, will be how they affect Nika and Bella. You can make any excuse you want, say how bad the Holgersons are, how evil Vanessa is and that they just wanted to help Mila and so on, but that doesn't change Nika and Bella's behavior. There was nothing smart about the heist and the attempt to use Vanessa. That was dumb. And then there's also the moral issue and the fact that they brought trouble on Mila. The moral side is especially about Bella. Look at what she did to the woman in the restaurant. To start her theme of healing, simple remorse is not enough. There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. If there are no consequences, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.
Yeah, as Nika would say: Actions have consequences.

But is part of their behaviour, Nika is a problematic guy and Bella too, i´m pretty sure will be more and worse problems caused by them...
 

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The jacuzzi scene is the next scene that needs to be uncensored. All the titties that have been shown that shouldn't be a problem. Plus for some odd reason I liked when Vanessa stuck her finger in Nami mouth. UNCENSOR JACUZZI.
 

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About the healing theme in the game.

I'll probably touch on this topic in more detail after I replay the game, but for now I just want to briefly say that one of the main factors in what I'll think about the Holgersons' storyline and Bella specifically, will be what consequences Bella and Nika face. You can make any excuse you want, say how bad the Holgersons are, how evil Vanessa is and that they just wanted to help Mila and so on, but that doesn't change Nika and Bella's behavior. There was nothing smart about the heist and the attempt to use Vanessa. That was dumb. And then there's also the moral issue and the fact that they brought trouble on Mila. The moral side is especially about Bella. Look at what she did to the woman in the restaurant. To start her theme of healing, simple remorse is not enough. There should be consequences for their actions and these consequences should hit them as hard as possible. If there are no consequences, all these themes of healing and redemption are worth nothing.
I have no likes left, but yes I agree, there needs to be some sort of recognition in the story that they are not heroes, that there are no excuses for that behaviour. Nika excalated hard against Mario simply because he was calling Mila names - the whole plan everything there is purely based on Nika's inability to let it slide. He then triggers Bella, and can't back down, which leads to the heist, which leads to the need to do something against Stefan indirectly, and on it goes. We thing find out Mila's history with Mario in Ch4.5 and what he was like back then, which further weakens any sense of justification.

The only reason I can see that Ocean will let them off the hook is a close shave. Stefan decides to go cloak and dagger, and not do things legally, everyone plays morally ambigious roles, we find out the levels of corruption mean there will never be justice. In such a scenario, there might not be any sense in justice, other than walking away. Some things cant be fixed through an eye for an eye.

But for that to work, Ocean really will have to work hard to make the reasons for grace very compelling.

The jacuzzi scene is the next scene that needs to be uncensored. All the titties that have been shown that shouldn't be a problem. Plus for some odd reason I liked when Vanessa stuck her finger in Nami mouth. UNCENSOR JACUZZI.
Very unlikely - penises would put it in 18+ so the animation is long gone. The visual side of it, well the argument that they're actually just using a jacuzzi to relax, rather than as a lewd thing makes more sense to me - even if Vanessa is very open minded, she's known these two strange people for a couple of hours in the game. It makes it a more conversational scene, which suits the situation better, and highlights the sensuality of the strip show Vanessa gave Nika as an intimate action.

Honestly, the timeline is still a mystery. Especially after Nojiko's rework. It is not yet clear whether Nojiko immediately took the children to her or not. However, the first flashback in chronology shows us how Nami returns from the camp (the religious camp mentioned in Wiab?) with a new friend. Nika acted like a normal guy for his age. After Summer said that she liked MC, Nami made her first move - she tried to embarrass Nika. Then a series of small flashbacks show how the three of them became friends. However, Nami made her second move - she tried to copy Summer. The turning point was Amber's second flashback, when Summer kissed Nika. From that moment, their friendship with Nami began to crumble. In Nami's eyes, she became the third wheel. It is not entirely clear whether this really happened or Nami began to try to pull the blanket over herself, that even the incredibly kind Summer began to find her annoying. Next is the most mysterious flashback. Meeting Elsa. From here we learn that Aunt Summer strongly controls Elsa’s figure, considers Nik a bad influence for Summer. It’s not entirely clear, this because of the financial situation of Nika's family or possible grievances related to Summer's parents or perhaps even Nik's parents. However, it is still a big mystery where Summer lived, who her parents were. The last flashback - Summer has to leave for a couple of weeks, and she he is very afraid of something. This is where the clear things end, and the rest is left to guess.

After Summer disappeared, Nika changed a lot, became more wild. He also got closer to Nami again, switched his attention to her, began to manipulate and fight. From here I have 2 theories. 1-Nika began to take revenge on Nami for what she did. 2-Nika, consciously or subconsciously, also had feelings for Nami.
Nami's solo path, the scene by the lake shows the audience a scene of not only Nick smoking, but also Nami smoking, obviously not for the first time. Considering how Ocean likes to attach importance to such things, they were both rowdy. Towards the end of high school, there was a terrible incident. Nika was hospitalized. After that, they made a certain agreement. The details are not clear, but there are a few clues. They clearly agreed to remain silent about certain things. Nika forgave Nami. However, everything had its price. Both of them changed again. Especially Nik, of whom only a shadow remained.

There are still a couple of questions left. Who is this blonde with whom Nika ran away in the rain? The only thing I remember is SG, the very first version, meeting Victoria in the rain. After the rework, this scene changed.
Second question: If Nika and Nami didn't have any relationship in the past, does Nika understand that Nami always had feelings and not just now?
Third question: Did Summer realize that Nami had feelings?
The fourth and most important question: Were they really not in a relationship? Nojiko’s reaction is too strong for just a joke in the style of *I’ll make you eat tits*.
Really well said! A couple of minor observations - we know that Summer's parents and aunt thought Nika was trash - that Summer would end up in a trailer park drinking beer. I am not certain that the deal necessarily relates to the violent incident. It could be mutual silence over something illegal they got into, that lead to Nika being charged ...I just had the thought that Nika might have been charged with something because Nami called Laverne actually :unsure: Anyway, I think there is a very real possibility that the unspoken deal has something disturbing, related to how Nami is inside. The deal is certainly about a secret, but given the way they speak while walking, and the speech if you have a change of perception, the unspoken thing is deep. There is a lot to consider about this indeed.
 
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Ocean is crazy... imagine creating a creature as perfect as Bella and then giving us another one just like her. Between the 2 of them and Amber I dunno even what to do... Too much hotness overload in a single family.
I wonder how this guy is feeling after learning that Bella has a TWIN sister :LOL:
 
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