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The points do impact relationships and how far some scenes may go.
From what i remember they actually don't -- the only real use they have is a check at the very end whether the player can get the epilogue with the given girl(s). But they aren't used for anything in the game proper.

There is some scenes where the player has to pick "right" answers to continue on the girl's path, but these are unrelated to the relationship points, and don't check them.

I've been trying to balance everyone out but the whole thing with the help 'SHORTCAKE' (from the donut list) first or 2nd vs go to the church 1st vs 2nd threw me for a loop and then the Kiki or Ashely/Trisha as well....aaargh. Seems that even if you lose points you can make them back pretty soon after but I'm not sure if there are certain levels that affect if you can get further with a person (would like more interaction with Kiki but now low on points with her)
From personal experience, if you try to balance sister/Ashley points, especially with others, you can very well end up with not enough points to get either of their epilogues. Check the walkthrough for Ch.3 for details.

That said, Chapter 3 is pretty short and allows you to manually enter any amount of points you want instead of import. So the worst case scenario you can just enter high enough amounts there without having to replay the whole thing.
 
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From what i remember they actually don't -- the only real use they have is a check at the very end whether the player can get the epilogue with the given girl(s). But they aren't used for anything in the game proper.

There is some scenes where the player has to pick "right" answers to continue on the girl's path, but these are unrelated to the relationship points, and don't check them.
well players get enuf points to fuck every girl/woman when it's time but right that not ending necessarily.
 

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well on dmd's thread has had many reasons why some stopped playing dmd.



well ideally you play each girls/women path separately (make saves for each) to maximize their points and get each ending at end of ch3. but that'd take very long time even with skipping.

you get plenty of points chances later for church girl so go with sc 1st, ashley and trisha are on their own paths (separate saves) or choose whichever pleases you more (they eat each other's points sorta).

when you reach end of ch3 and can't get your fav girl's ending then it's easily resolved w/o need to replay whole game.
Or just start at Ch3 and put the numbers for ones you want way up...
 
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OK, it's question time. I'm at the point in the Doughnut list where I should get Yuki donuts 1 to 5, but if I'm reading the notes right then it only comes up if you had called Yuki after doing the thing with Kristina and the church when you went for the toolbox (?)
If that's right then it's a long way back but I don't know then if I have to skip through to after the cousin comes for the reception job (as that's the last doughnut before Yuki's come up).
I did go back to a save and push to after the reception job but then it goes to something with Kristina...so do Kiki's ones come after that (I stopped and saved at that point).
 

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OK, it's question time. I'm at the point in the Doughnut list where I should get Yuki donuts 1 to 5, but if I'm reading the notes right then it only comes up if you had called Yuki after doing the thing with Kristina and the church when you went for the toolbox (?)
If that's right then it's a long way back but I don't know then if I have to skip through to after the cousin comes for the reception job (as that's the last doughnut before Yuki's come up).
I did go back to a save and push to after the reception job but then it goes to something with Kristina...so do Kiki's ones come after that (I stopped and saved at that point).
There are some where you have to do three or so different variations of a scene to get them all - the one where you have to play the game to get the records for Trisha is one of those, as I recall. Where you have two ways/orderings to play different scenes, to get all of the donuts and the sneaky peeks naturally, you usually have to play through all of them - it's the Dev's incentive to get you to play as many paths as possible to see all of their work and all of the variations they produced.
 

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There are some where you have to do three or so different variations of a scene to get them all - the one where you have to play the game to get the records for Trisha is one of those, as I recall. Where you have two ways/orderings to play different scenes, to get all of the donuts and the sneaky peeks naturally, you usually have to play through all of them - it's the Dev's incentive to get you to play as many paths as possible to see all of their work and all of the variations they produced.
yeah, I understand the concept.
I still don't know where those donuts of Yuki's come in though....do you know?
 
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yeah, I understand the concept.
I still don't know where those donuts of Kiki's come in though....do you know?
Who is Kiki? Do you mean Yuki?

She had some in unusual places - the walkthroughs usually gave you good instructions on them. I remember one when they took a walk along docks or something - might have been talking about her going to flight school.
 

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Who is Kiki? Do you mean Yuki?

She had some in unusual places - the walkthroughs usually gave you good instructions on them. I remember one when they took a walk along docks or something - might have been talking about her going to flight school.
sorry, yes Yuki (I have another ongoing game with a Kiki in it).
So, I found donuts 1,3,4,5 (after the visit from Kristina), but number 2 is baffling me. I assumed it would be on that same bit, but in the WT it just says "Requires you to chose 'You can't stay' ". I did not see that anywhere and I did the flying part already. No Idea where in the dialogue that comes up....do I have to do the church/dog bits in the other order?

OK, never mind, I found it it's "I can't stay" in the text not 'You', so the WT is wrong and my eyes just skipped over the part DOH!!
 
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well if is completionist then needs to play the game multiple times, if not then cheat and unlock those.
 

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ok, I must be going stupid (or maybe I'm just too old).
What does 'CQ' stand for? This is in relation to the breakup or open arrangement with Nicole.
Is this to do with seeing scenes of her having sex with other men? If so, I'm fine with not seeing that.
Just not 100% sure if it's better to have a clean break (it would be to me, especially as she seems to be not that invested in the relationship any more)
 

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ok, I must be going stupid (or maybe I'm just too old).
What does 'CQ' stand for? This is in relation to the breakup or open arrangement with Nicole.
Is this to do with seeing scenes of her having sex with other men? If so, I'm fine with not seeing that.
Just not 100% sure if it's better to have a clean break (it would be to me, especially as she seems to be not that invested in the relationship any more)
CQ = Cuck Queen = female who likes to watch when her beloved is fucking someone else and get's fun and/or satisfaction out of it
 
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ok, I must be going stupid (or maybe I'm just too old).
What does 'CQ' stand for? This is in relation to the breakup or open arrangement with Nicole.
Cuckqueen is the same as cuckold, on the part of a woman who loves to watch her boyfriend or husband fuck other women, and she watches it.
 

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CQ = Cuck Queen = female who likes to watch when her beloved is fucking someone else and get's fun and/or satisfaction out of it
ok, fair enough, I think I'll stick with the 'broken up' option....unless there is some issue with that further down the line.
 

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ok, fair enough, I think I'll stick with the 'broken up' option....unless there is some issue with that further down the line.
well - you miss all endings involving her - but remember that you can always toogle her relationship in portrait menu.
Yes, it might be cheating, but you don't have to play the whole game twice at least ;)
 

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You get two sets of epilogue options depending on whether MC is still with Nicole, and the set where she is present and gets involved is quite smaller, so i'd say it's far from most.
 

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mmmm, I'd like to vote the donut #23 image of the half sister as my favourite...so far anyway, though I wish I'd had something similar from Vicki
 
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