VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[seaoflove]

So the rules of law do not apply to all humans equally, !

Someone getting killed and someone getting molested are different why you keep comparing different bits and use murders as example to justify it?

As for the nun and pornstar, I would simply say this. Law doesn't give punishment "Oh you were a pornstar so you getting molested is not as big issue as that nun over their". What kind of bullshit argument is this? You don't feel nothing about pornstar getting molested but you feel for nun, guess what? Law doesn't give a fuck who is getting molested. Every molester has same punishment whether they molest a nun, pornstar or anything other.

What is your basis of even argument here. Law doesn't care about if you feel for the victim or not. The same case of molestation is registered against the molester whether the victim is nurse/stripper/pornstar, etc. There is no law "Oh you are pornstar, sorry, we don't file cases for pornstars getting molested but we do for nuns". Like wtf?

I would drop this conversation here and won't reply to any of this topic anymore. We can discuss something else.

Peace!

My entire argument is Karma.

I don't feel so bad for people that do foolish things that lead to negative consequences for themself.

If you climb in to the lion cage being a fool, it is your own fault. 0 sympathy.

If you are at the zoo and a lion escapes from its cage and attacks you it is not your fault. Much sympathy.

You can say "The law doesn't care if you feel for the victim or not." However, in practice it absolutely does.

A lot of people get a jury nullification based on the circumstances or the case just thrown out altogether.

If you are a stripper giving lap-dances. Expect someone to grab a titty every so often. Even if there is a "No touching rule". You are dancing naked or half naked on a drunk mans lap. Expect it to happen!

If you are a waitress working at a diner, then no, you shouldn't expect anyone to grab your titty. That's much different. You are not sticking your ass in the customers face, and they are not drunk.

Suppose this happened to two women. A waitress and a stripper. I don't see the stripper winning that in any courtroom. No way in hell... The waitress maybe. In all reality neither would see a courtroom and the fella probably just get thrown out or banned.

You don't get to do "Risky Behavior" then complain when something bad happens.

When the man that juggles chainsaws for a living accidentally cuts off his arm... He deserved it!

 

[Rustynutone]

My entire argument is Karma.

I don't feel so bad for people that do foolish things that lead to negative consequences for themself.

If you climb in to the lion cage being a fool, it is your own fault. 0 sympathy.

If you are at the zoo and a lion escapes from its cage and attacks you it is not your fault. Much sympathy.

You can say "The law doesn't care if you feel for the victim or not." However, in practice it absolutely does.

A lot of people get a jury nullification based on the circumstances or the case just thrown out altogether.

If you are a stripper giving lap-dances. Expect someone to grab a titty every so often. Even if there is a "No touching rule". You are dancing naked or half naked on a drunk mans lap. Expect it to happen!

If you are a waitress working at a diner, then no, you shouldn't expect anyone to grab your titty. That's much different. You are not sticking your ass in the customers face, and they are not drunk.

Suppose this happened to two women. A waitress and a stripper. I don't see the stripper winning that in any courtroom. No way in hell... The waitress maybe. In all reality neither would see a courtroom and the fella probably just get thrown out or banned.

You don't get to do "Risky Behavior" then complain when something bad happens.

When the man that juggles chainsaws for a living accidentally cuts off his arm... He deserved it!

Wow what a victim blaming mentality. Working as a stripper is a decent honest job, not "risky behavior", and going against the rules and touching them without permission is still wrong and the person doesn't "deserve it." What a horrible way to think about people. People like you who say that the strippers should just expect unwanted touching are excusing the molestation happening. There are clear rules in most strip club for a reason and they shouldn't have to deal with getting molested just as much as a waitress or any other person.
Now the gangbanger or any other people actually doing illegal things do deserve whatever pain they get, but by your thought process a firefighter who dies in a fire should get no sympathy because "that's the life they chose." Running into fires is pretty "risky behavior" after all.

 

[seaoflove]

Working as a stripper is a decent honest job, not "risky behavior"

I worked at a strip club as a bouncer for 8 years. I have spent a ton of time in a strip club. I'm going to tell you right now that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Your statement is False. It is the sex positive bullshit that your gender studies professor who never set foot in a strip club will fill young minds with. It is all theory and no practice.

Working as a stripper can indeed involve significant risks and challenges that may not align with the notion of a "decent, honest job" for several reasons:

Social Stigma: Despite efforts to de-stigmatize the profession, society often attaches negative stereotypes to strippers and the adult entertainment industry as a whole. This stigma can lead to discrimination, judgment, and social isolation for individuals working in this field.

Impact on Personal Safety: Stripping often involves interacting with intoxicated or aggressive clientele in dimly lit environments, which can pose significant safety risks for performers. Instances of harassment, assault, and violence are not uncommon in this line of work, further highlighting the dangers associated with the profession.

Impact on Relationships: Working as a stripper can strain personal relationships due to societal judgment, jealousy, and communication challenges. Partners and family members may struggle to understand or accept the profession, leading to conflict and emotional distress.

Exploitative Work Environment: In many cases, strippers may face exploitative working conditions, including low pay, lack of job security, and pressure to engage in activities that they may not be comfortable with, such as providing sexual services or enduring harassment from clients.

Physical and Emotional Risks: Stripping can expose individuals to physical dangers, including assault, harassment, and substance abuse. Moreover, the emotional toll of objectification and the pressure to maintain a certain appearance can contribute to mental health issues such as anxiety, depression, and low self-esteem.

Difficulty Leaving the Industry: Exiting the stripping profession can be challenging due to limited transferable skills, ongoing stigma, and barriers to alternative employment opportunities. This can trap individuals in a cycle of dependency on the industry, making it difficult to pursue other career paths or educational opportunities.

Legal and Regulatory Challenges: Depending on the jurisdiction, stripping may involve navigating complex legal frameworks and regulations, including licensing requirements, zoning restrictions, and potential criminalization of certain activities. This legal ambiguity can create uncertainty and vulnerability for individuals working in the industry.

Limited Career Advancement: While some individuals may choose stripping as a temporary or supplemental source of income, the lack of opportunities for career advancement within the industry can hinder long-term financial stability and professional growth.

by your thought process a firefighter who dies in a fire should get no sympathy because "that's the life they chose." Running into fires is pretty "risky behavior" after all.

Heroics are measured by a different bar of conduct than foolishness, greed, or attention seeking.

If my kid is getting attacked by a bear, I'm going to have to step in and put myself between the bear and my kid. I would definitely be sympathetic to anyone in such a situation.

That is not the same thing as me going off the grid, and going to Alaska and trying to be one with the bears like

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. As for Timothy Treadwell getting my sympathy? Not so much!

 

[Xupuzulla]

Stan needs to fuck Holly and be done with it already,two nerds one stone or rather one penis.

 

[BlandChili]

Stan needs to fuck Holly and be done with it already,two nerds one stone or rather one penis.

For how much you bash Holly you seem to care deeply about her sexual activity, she's not that hard to ignore.

The only character that's in need of a fuck is Eli and Lena's gonna be the one to do her.

 

[Xupuzulla]

For how much you bash Holly you seem to care deeply about her sexual activity, she's not that hard to ignore.

I mean the only realistic sexual partners Stan could possibly have in the near future are Lena and Holly,what you want me to say?
I would love to see Stan-Louise as a hate fucking thing but i doubt EK is going to go that route...

 

[BlandChili]

I would love to see Stan-Louise as a hate fucking thing but i doubt EK is going to go that route...

Since she removed Louise from the story for the time being, presumably to lighten her work-load, I would be surprised to see her return for any content that isn't just with Lena. I suppose Lena might direct Louise to fuck with certain individuals other than Ian, but Eva already did something similar in GGGB with Eva/Jess/Ash.

 

[Leongen43]

Stan needs to fuck Holly and be done with it already,two nerds one stone or rather one penis.

I guess it's not a crazy option because he tries to approach her at the bar and it wouldn't be surprising if he passed by, Stan would also be the best option for blonde bimbo Allison since he won't get bored of her old vagina, right?

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[GokutheG]

Since she removed Louise from the story for the time being, presumably to lighten her work-load, I would be surprised to see her return for any content that isn't just with Lena. I suppose Lena might direct Louise to fuck with certain individuals other than Ian, but Eva already did something similar in GGGB with Eva/Jess/Ash.

Do you know how long Louise is supposed to be out of the game?

 

[BlandChili]

Do you know how long Louise is supposed to be out of the game?

No, I suppose it depends on how fast Eva lets summer progress, I think Louise said she went home to her dad's to save on rent.

 

[Leongen43]

No, I suppose it depends on how fast Eva lets summer progress, I think Louise said she went home to her dad's to save on rent.

Let's be honest, it is possible that EK has temporarily removed her from the story because she is the least liked character in ORS, surely without her there will be more room for stories with Holly/Lena and Jeremy/Lena later on, right?

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[BlandChili]

Let's be honest, it is possible that EK has temporarily removed her from the story because she is the least liked character in ORS, surely without her there will be more room for stories with Holly/Lena and Jeremy/Lena later on, right?

Or any other pairings, Cherry is gone for a bit too though.
I'd sacrifice Louise if it meant other lesbian content (Cindy, hint, hint) for Lena, although I would miss the use of the collar and leash. Lena needs to use her toys with more of her sexual options.

 

[Anthers]

Louise is annoying even if Lena is friendly or mistress. I like to make Lena tell her "stop being child" to see if she really goes away and give the room to Holly.

 

[Leongen43]

Or any other pairings, Cherry is gone for a bit too though.
I'd sacrifice Louise if it meant other lesbian content (Cindy, hint, hint) for Lena, although I would miss the use of the collar and leash. Lena needs to use her toys with more of her sexual options.

That's where Emma could come in and be a more interesting character for threesomes and lesbian scenes with Lena, what do you think of the idea?

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[BlandChili]

That's where Emma could come in and be a more interesting character for threesomes and lesbian scenes with Lena, what do you think of the idea?

I feel fine enough about it i suppose, any lesbian content is nice and Emma seems to be the most obvious candidate. My investment into her as an option would depend on what kind of material Emma would have with Lena. I'm not particularly into anal, which has mostly been Emma's speciality with Ian and Jeremy so far.

I'd find lesbian content between Emma and Ivy interesting though, even if just a phone pic or something, given Emma's reaction to when they met.

I'm interested in Eli because she's less defined than many of the other girls. Her and Lena's content could be quite interesting especially because their interest doesn't have that tender veneer to it that so defines Lena's attitude with Holly.

 

[Anthers]

I can foresee: Ian getting stoned and drunk with Perry and Wade while Lena and Emma teach Holly some things.

 

[BlandChili]

I can foresee: Ian getting stoned and drunk with Perry and Wade while Lena and Emma teach Holly some things.

Yeah, the beach house weekend would seem a given chance for that development. I wouldn't expect it when the player isn't controlling Lena though.

I think we might be able to stumble upon a Lena/Holly scene as Ian and choose to peep, possibly Emma will tell Ian about Lena groping her and ask him his opinion, letting Ian choose to encourage Emma to try something lesbian later on.

 

[Krysis_here]

Do you know how long Louise is supposed to be out of the game?

Louise vs Stan, Simple

I feel fine enough about it i suppose, any lesbian content is nice and Emma seems to be the most obvious candidate. My investment into her as an option would depend on what kind of material Emma would have with Lena. I'm not particularly into anal, which has mostly been Emma's speciality with Ian and Jeremy so far.

I'd find lesbian content between Emma and Ivy interesting though, even if just a phone pic or something, given Emma's reaction to when they met.

I'm interested in Eli because she's less defined than many of the other girls. Her and Lena's content could be quite interesting especially because their interest doesn't have that tender veneer to it that so defines Lena's attitude with Holly.

But Lena said She loves to Play with Emma's Ass I would not be surprised if they bought Some Butt Plugs and a Double Sided Dildo to have sex , I am sure it will be amazing

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[BlandChili]

But Lena said She loves to Play with Emma's Ass I would not be surprised if they bought Some Butt Plugs and a Double Sided Dildo to have sex , I am sure it will be amazing

Presumably that's where it'd go. Not my thing, but good for people who like it.

 

[dolfe67]

No, I suppose it depends on how fast Eva lets summer progress, I think Louise said she went home to her dad's to save on rent.

She said something like that but that's not how rent works. Someone will have to pay her share of the rent. A new roommate, or Lena and/or Stan