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BobTheDuck

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On the subject of Elsa, I am interested to find out if Sasha knew Elsa and Summer back in the day (meaning she may know what went down). We already know Summer had friends or acquaintances that Nika wasn't aware of (i.e. Nia). Ocean chose to show that Sasha follows Elsa's social media page for whatever reason.
I think there's a very good chance:

If WiaB's old version of Elena stays true, then Elena was the prosecutor for the evil group, and the eventual plan was for Willi to seduce her away. If we take that as a basis:

- Elena would have been in court cases, and Sasha might have known about them.
- Sasha would already know about the eventual ZPR families accord - two former antagonists P and R allying themselves with the Zane's against their bosses.
- The Cyrus's might have been witnesses that Elena used to bring down her bosses, and she'd know why they'd need protection/new identities when the prison terms were up for the bosses.

Or in other ways:
- Sasha was frriends with Summer just like Nia, and Sasha also lost a close friend, but she holds more resentment than Nia (the 'Maybe he deserved it' comment when Zara and Nadia handcuff him seems deeper than the circumstance).

Regardless, Elsa's reaction to Nika next time they interact and Elena's when she meets Nika will probably tell us a lot. If Elena was involved as a lawyer still, there's quite a high chance Inessa knows some of what is going on as well, and Inessa is there to protect Sasha from being targeted by the defendants who lost their cases to her mother. I assume she's retired in SG in any case, can't imagine her running a golf club while doing court cases, very opposite jobs.
 

Don Sucio

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Who is Elsa :KEK:
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Damn, I need to replay SG. I can’t follow you guys :BootyTime:
I´m like you too :LOL:, i don´t remember most of the characters our buddies are mentioning here, but well, is good because i can´t be spoiled if i don´t know about what are they talking :WeSmart:
 

Doomyk

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On the subject of Elsa, I am interested to find out if Sasha knew Elsa and Summer back in the day (meaning she may know what went down). We already know Summer had friends or acquaintances that Nika wasn't aware of (i.e. Nia). Ocean chose to show that Sasha follows Elsa's social media page for whatever reason.
Especially considering that it is on Bella’s path, if you kiss her, Sasha will say in the event with handcuffs that he may have deserved punishment. Considering the possibility that Summer may be alive, wait for the opportunity to see Nika, then in the eyes of Sasha, who is completely such for eternal love, romantic books and so on, Nika committed a mortal sin for not waiting. True, this contrasts somewhat with the fact that Sasha herself is a love interest.
MC to Amber during therapy:
"After the thing with Su-m..." *you inhale deeply.* "After Summer's disappearance... Nami and I got very close.."
Honestly, the darkest part of the story. There are some inconsistencies. He tells Amber that after Summer’s disappearance, Nami warmed up and they became closer, but in a conversation with Niya there is the opposite information. In general, there are some inaccuracies between Amber’s story, conversations with Nami and Niya.
I still wonder if the cabin incident was the straw that broke the camel's back. Then again, maybe it was something that involved Nami as well...
Nami is generally a dark horse. At Victoria's house, he practically says that Nami is completely to blame for his condition, stopping in time and saying *partially*. But I am tormented by vague doubts about Summer herself. On the one hand, a lot indicates that Summer is a completely different person. This is why Nia’s flashback was so important, despite people’s protests, that such information should not be on separate paths. It was Nya who fully established that Summer at least lived and was a separate person, and not an alter ego or anything else. However, I am still tormented by vague doubts about some unclear dialogues in the scene on the lake (Chapter 4), which may be greatly rethought with the new chapters and Nami’s words in chapter 5, on her path, when she says that if everything goes to dust, Raven Nika and Phoenix Nami are gone.
The important thing is there's no sense of antagonism or wariness from her, just caution to not mentione the thing directly. She seems happy (even if shocked) to reconnect.
And also a great way to show the difference between her and Holgerson. Elsa, who has not seen Nika for eons and clearly has something to ask and tell, greets rather tactfully and then takes her leave. And an old dick who interferes like a donkey, without manners or decency.
 

Don Sucio

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When the MCs life is great and stable Summer will either bump into the MC or she will show up on a feed in his social media.
Indeed, Summer reappearance will be a completely chaos for Nika life... Is she returns, i´m not sure yet she is going to return (knowing that i didn´t play the last update,maybe there happen something new and big for the plot)
 
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RNasc4444

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You should google impotence, Nika is not impotent. Either you didn't really pay attention or you lie to stir up shit again.
To be fair, while you are correct, the MC's "condition" is/has been all over the fucking place from the start. Either Ocean wants ambiguity on the subject or he sucks at conveying exactly what's wrong.

In early iterations his interest in sex was almost non-existent as if he was asexual. Then it morphed into his hung up on Summer being so bad he could not envision anyone but her as a potential sex partner. Now we know he has no "hardware" issues as he states he can get boners and Nami is even able to stimulate him enough to get one in the jacuzzi. But just as you think you got his issues figured out, the scene with Bella in bed pops up and you're left scrambling to figure out just wtf is wrong with that moron. He clearly has a strong enough emotional bond to "date" or consider dating Bella. He clearly likes her body as per his own thoughts. Yet dude acts like a robot while cuddling her in bed as if he was asexual. And suddenly his character got so much development it went right back to the starting point. :LOL:

It's kinda hard to understand. So if someone calls him impotent, I don't bother correcting them because none of us actually have a clear picture of what the fuck he is. Hopefully the next session with Amber will offer some clarification.
 

Penfold Mole

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I doubt his condition has been diagnosed by any specialists so far and even doctors get their diagnoses wrong on difficult cases.
Amber is likely the first specialist making an attempt to sort it out. So the confusion about how to call his condition seems quite natural.
 

Doomyk

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I think there's a very good chance:

If WiaB's old version of Elena stays true, then Elena was the prosecutor for the evil group, and the eventual plan was for Willi to seduce her away. If we take that as a basis:

- Elena would have been in court cases, and Sasha might have known about them.
- Sasha would already know about the eventual ZPR families accord - two former antagonists P and R allying themselves with the Zane's against their bosses.
- The Cyrus's might have been witnesses that Elena used to bring down her bosses, and she'd know why they'd need protection/new identities when the prison terms were up for the bosses.

Or in other ways:
- Sasha was frriends with Summer just like Nia, and Sasha also lost a close friend, but she holds more resentment than Nia (the 'Maybe he deserved it' comment when Zara and Nadia handcuff him seems deeper than the circumstance).

Regardless, Elsa's reaction to Nika next time they interact and Elena's when she meets Nika will probably tell us a lot. If Elena was involved as a lawyer still, there's quite a high chance Inessa knows some of what is going on as well, and Inessa is there to protect Sasha from being targeted by the defendants who lost their cases to her mother. I assume she's retired in SG in any case, can't imagine her running a golf club while doing court cases, very opposite jobs.
I may be thinking a lot, but if you consider that all three clans are connected with crime, like Elena herself, could her acquaintance with Nick Benz be a hint that Nick himself is connected with crime. I know, i know, you will say that if they know each other, it doesn’t mean anything at all. But honestly, i couldn’t shake the feeling from his first appearance that he was some kind of mafioso. Especially in the last chapter. And the story with the car accident could be a lie. Yes, most likely i’m wrong , otherwise his ex-wife would not have received divorce papers, but would have been feeding the fish (not Katie).
PS: I just now realized that this is not the best idea for William from wiab to become a mafioso. One of their rules is not to look at other people’s wives. It will be hard not to break the rules on the first day after the oath:LOL:
 

BobTheDuck

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Another week begins, and no SG.

Sources say that an angry Patreon was banned, a statement from another Patreon ''I'm not worried about the delay, it can take as long as it needs.'' Ocean didn't want the interview, but his silence confirms that SG will only leave in 2050!
I saw the aftermath of ...something? There's plenty of people being impatient in discord without getting banned, so my guess is the poster broke one of the server rules.

In no way was anything confirmed. All that is happening is that the steam reviewer is taking way too long to approve the rating, even though Epic could do it more quickly and has stricter rules. So the asshole is Steam. Which we all knew. Meanwhile Ocean's working on Chapter 6 and WiaB.

I may be thinking a lot, but if you consider that all three clans are connected with crime, like Elena herself, could her acquaintance with Nick Benz be a hint that Nick himself is connected with crime. I know, i know, you will say that if they know each other, it doesn’t mean anything at all. But honestly, i couldn’t shake the feeling from his first appearance that he was some kind of mafioso. Especially in the last chapter. And the story with the car accident could be a lie. Yes, most likely i’m wrong , otherwise his ex-wife would not have received divorce papers, but would have been feeding the fish (not Katie).
PS: I just now realized that this is not the best idea for William from wiab to become a mafioso. One of their rules is not to look at other people’s wives. It will be hard not to break the rules on the first day after the oath:LOL:
I mean, Nick's connections are unknown. I doubt there are multiple exclusive rich people golf courses, so it isn't indicative. I would think that Nick's ex was the connection. I almost see that Vanessa is the one who was most affected by her, even though Zara has the trauma. If we find out who she is, that might open up some new ideas. I honestly think that Ocean will have a few decent role model characters that Nika can go to for help, like Jeff, Nick and Aziz ...after all there's no way Dwight will be wholesome :sneaky: Wollust won't be the village of the damned where everyone is on the take. Remember how Bella and Nika were looking for dirt on Brenda and all they found were wholesome, normal photos? I kinda feel there will be more of that kind of thing - some of Nika's healing will be letting go of his plans and schemes that are the product of his isolated perspective.

Standard porn logic is every male is an antagonist if they're not the MC and every woman is an LI or and antagonist or both - why render a woman who keeps their clothes on? All that effort wasted! :sneaky: I really like characters like Sven in WiaB, who exist just to let us know there are normal people being boring and ordinary. I think it'd be too cheesy if everyone was in on a conspiracy centered around Nika, much to much like a tv soap.

:whistle::whistle::whistle:
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This I find far more plausible than a lot of other Summer theories, simply because she's defined and spends too much time in the rear vision mirror. But she could just be a plot device sleeper that Ocean hasn't yet triggered. I would still think it'd be a let down if Summer was living around the corner with a different haircut, and refused to visit Nia, and then is just all "hey remember me? Sorry got bust gaming on the bugbois and dino thingies." I'd probably rage quit
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I'm probably misremembering but did Ocean forget about that shy girl with the head thing, Sonya or something? I forget her name. I feel like she hasn't showed up since the table game chapter. I'll have to replay this soon.
 
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Elduriel

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I'm probably misremembering but did Ocean forget about that shy girl with the head thing, Sonya or something? I forget her name. I feel like she hasn't showed up since the table game chapter. I'll have to replay this soon.
game is gonna be long as fuck, we barely scratched the surface. She'll be back.
 
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