FakeTemplar

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Then why give any choose at all?
And different endings
When you make a game in the same universe as another one, the most efficient way is to choose one of the endings and make it the canon one. Before Eternum (the avn) launched, people could play OIAL and consider the ending they wanted as their "ending" to the story because there wasn't anything contradicting it. That said, Caribdis probably said that the harem ending is the canon one even before releasing Eternum, but I dunno.
 

Dorfnutter

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Then why give any choose at all?
And different endings
Because Cari tells his stories the same way old-school Japanese eroge devs approach theirs: in that despite the choices there is only one true route and that said route has a bigger chance of being carried to the next game. And that's because it's much easier to write around it instead of taking into account multiple permutations that won't even matter in the long run because at the end of the day these are visual novels with set stories and not large-ass RPGs where decisions affect worldbuilding and major story events. It's for that same reason that AVNs with branching paths never get a sequel of sorts unless they choose a canon ending or simply carry over superficial consequences that ultimately wouldn't matter.

That said, Eternum will likely be the same: it will have multiple endings, sure. But there is likely only one true ending that will essentially shape the events and conditions for the next game (provided said game takes place in the same universe as this one and OIAL, anyway).
 

PayneToTheMax

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Because Cari tells his stories the same way old-school Japanese eroge devs approach theirs: in that despite the choices there is only one true route and that said route has a bigger chance of being carried to the next game. And that's because it's much easier to write around it instead of taking into account multiple permutations that won't even matter in the long run because at the end of the day these are visual novels with set stories and not large-ass RPGs where decisions affect worldbuilding and major story events. It's for that same reason that AVNs with branching paths never get a sequel of sorts unless they choose a canon ending or simply carry over superficial consequences that ultimately wouldn't matter in the next game.

That said, Eternum will likely be the same: it will have multiple endings, sure. But there is likely only one true ending that will essentially shape the events and conditions for the next game (provided said game takes place in the same universe as this one and OIAL, anyway).
Unless you're Type Moon and you get away with saying 'each route is a parallel universe from one another and thus canon' and then proceed to make alternate universes an essential part of the setting.
 

Bisachi

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fellas is the lore connected to OIAL is any way? I got too invested in the lore, and if that's the case I'll go around playing that as well. If the only thing liking them is that they are both set up in caribdis-verse (fate ref) I'd rather skip out on OIAL.
 

PayneToTheMax

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fellas is the lore connected to OIAL is any way? I got too invested in the lore, and if that's the case I'll go around playing that as well. If the only thing liking them is that they are both set up in caribdis-verse (fate ref) I'd rather skip out on OIAL.
Stabby Mike gets referenced. Which is nice, because the entire setting already got supernatural shit going on, so all the weird stuff with Eternum makes absolute sense.
 
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Bisachi

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Stabby Mike gets referenced. Which is nice, because the entire setting already got supernatural shit going on, so all the weird stuff with Eternum makes absolute sense.
wait so is eternum set before or after oial? because eternum refers to him as former president so gotta be after right? Man it would have been cool if eternum ended at a point where oial could start
 

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wait so is eternum set before or after oial? because eternum refers to him as former president so gotta be after right? Man it would have been cool if eternum ended at a point where oial could start
If you read back a page all your questions would be answered.
 

Dorfnutter

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wait so is eternum set before or after oial? because eternum refers to him as former president so gotta be after right? Man it would have been cool if eternum ended at a point where oial could start
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That "several years" have long since been retconned to 12-14 years after (or over a decade as mentioned by Orion in the revised 0.1 monologue)...

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This also lines up with the timeline made by one of Cari's patrons, which the man himself later vetted and pinned on his official Discord...

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Sons of Azaroth too -- but only in passing.
Astaroth, not Azaroth. The latter sounds more like a pending copyright lawsuit than a demonic name, really.
 

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That "several years" have long since been retconned to 12-14 years after (or over a decade as mentioned by Orion in the revised 0.1 monologue)...

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This also lines up with the timeline made by one of Cari's patrons, which the man himself later vetted and pinned on his official Discord...

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Astaroth, not Azaroth. The latter sounds more like a pending copyright lawsuit than a demonic name, really.

Sweeeeet, I gather judie is a character from oail, didn't know there was a reference to eternum directly in oail as well. That makes it extra nice. Thanks a lot!
 

muhu1

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The dialogue effects in question play more with the MILF/Sugar Mommy kink more than any sort of Forbidden Incest kink, really (which Patreon will probably murder Cari for should they ever catch him going for the latter route).
It's all on Gertrude because she keeps mixing us up with Dalia
 
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