thealucid

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Well, yes and no. DC is among the top 5 creators on patreon and there are quite a few people out there by now who don't really like him. So he's quite a bit more in the spotlight compared to other devs and there's certainly a risk that "too many" people will tell patreon that he's basically circumventing their rules. It's a bet and he doesn't want to take it.

Next to that, I'm not really a fan of those odd replacements. At least in my opinion they made some games quite a bit worse in the past and basically forced users to use a patch.


This one should be it:

I have to say, that I didn't play it myself though.
Thanks for linking the patch! I'll see how it runs, I have to admit though a cursory glance at the .rpy files is a little depressing. Looks like he really ripped out anything related to incest in the game.

Guess it helps secure the cashflow though. :p
 

sir_legend

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I am so excited for this update jenny is the best girl in the game and i like her boobs they are the best after rox
 

Snugglepuff

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not feeling it to be honest, her head looks weird. a little alien like. her tits also look a little weird. hope it's still WIP but i liked the old art more.
I'd say that overall she looks younger than she should in that image, compared to both current and the upcoming refined/redesigned look. It's kind of freaky and creepy at the same time.
 

Gutsandguts

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DC posted a picture from the shower scene with the "new" Jenny on his Discord:
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Why does she look like a 13 year old with massive boobs?

What is the point in changing the art? It wasn't the best art ever but it was fine, I would have settled for characters having more distinctive faces.

I know it's a big joke that this game will never be completed but with all these pointless changes it does feel like they keep adding on to the pile, I wonder if things will coincidentally start going faster if people start removing their donations later down the line.
 
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diras2010

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well, you guys can argue whatever you want, and can start astroturfing at leisure, at the end of the day... ALL WE HERE are interested in this game and how it would be as a finished product

you can check Patreon Statistics of the Top Patreon Creators, and DarkCookie is in 5th place OVERALL

you can check only NSFW Patreon games creators, where DC and Co. are 1st place overall

interestingly enough, the average per backer is just $2.90, for the Summertime Saga project / game; In context the 2nd place, who has more time as a Patreon creator and have an average of $5.14 per backer has around 6K followers, while DC has 16K

you can see that this game talks by itself, as Dogeek have stated, the rework of the codebase is long and extensive, the idea is to make the game less prone to crashes and more flexible for upcoming updates and content

and the rework of the art is focused in flexibility, streamlining of the game and lightweighting the final product, because visuals are always the heavy hitters on any game, and the old way of doing all the poses instead of creating separated parts that can be arranged / swapped at will was making the game bloated and slow

remember that DC is a human, like all of us here, has a real life, a job, debts, kids, and so on. so is logical that things doesn't go as planned from time to time, and watching you guys trash-talking about a real life stuff is frankly dissapointing
 

Porn_Jesus

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I wonder if there will be single day where no one in this thread will talk about the money DC makes and that he works extra slow to get the most of it. Are some of you people corrupted by printed paper or just jealous beyond repair? -__-
 

Ungawa

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I wonder if there will be single day where no one in this thread will talk about the money DC makes and that he works extra slow to get the most of it. Are some of you people corrupted by printed paper or just jealous beyond repair? -__-
Proper story's supposed to start at the beginnin...

Ain't so simple with this one...
 
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Blitzen

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well, you guys can argue whatever you want, and can start astroturfing at leisure, at the end of the day... ALL WE HERE are interested in this game and how it would be as a finished product

you can check Patreon Statistics of the Top Patreon Creators, and DarkCookie is in 5th place OVERALL

you can check only NSFW Patreon games creators, where DC and Co. are 1st place overall

interestingly enough, the average per backer is just $2.90, for the Summertime Saga project / game; In context the 2nd place, who has more time as a Patreon creator and have an average of $5.14 per backer has around 6K followers, while DC has 16K

you can see that this game talks by itself, as Dogeek have stated, the rework of the codebase is long and extensive, the idea is to make the game less prone to crashes and more flexible for upcoming updates and content

and the rework of the art is focused in flexibility, streamlining of the game and lightweighting the final product, because visuals are always the heavy hitters on any game, and the old way of doing all the poses instead of creating separated parts that can be arranged / swapped at will was making the game bloated and slow

remember that DC is a human, like all of us here, has a real life, a job, debts, kids, and so on. so is logical that things doesn't go as planned from time to time, and watching you guys trash-talking about a real life stuff is frankly dissapointing
All good and shit but for that kind of money here you need to move big game coke or horse. He earns like what minimum 32k (its alot more that that but for reference) thats why people are trash talking because its insane amounts of money. High end CGI artists are paid that kind of money.
 
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j4yj4m

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All good and shit but for that kind of money here you need to move big game coke or horse. He earns like what minimum 32k (its alot more that that but for reference) thats why people are trash talking because its insane amounts of money. High end CGI artists are paid that kind of money.
That's not how art works though. Just because actors, musicians, etc. earn insane amounts of money doesn't mean that one would expect them to double, tripple, quadruple their output. If your favourite band releases an LP every year, it doesn't matter if they earn 1, 2 or 100 million bucks from it, the next album won't come any faster. The same is true here as long as DC draws every bit of art himself and wants to assure his standards. Just because he earns twice the money doesn't mean, that he can actually, physically work twice as much. After all we aren't talking about DAZ or honey select renders where money actually matters and which you can hand over to anybody with a bit of skill to produce as many of them as you want, as long as the models are ready and as long as you've got potent hardware.

Art is the big bottleneck of this game and as long as DC doesn't find an artist who fulfills everything he needs/wants, the speed won't change, no matter the money. And people are of course free to apply, if they think they can do it - DC said it several times on stream.
 
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This is an outright lie he has hired coder, writer, and poser. You this because Dogeek posted on the forum.
What part of more is misunderstood?

Hey, it's almost like you've ignored his comments about the situation over and over. He tried out at least one person for art, it didn't work out. And he hired multiple other people to help on the project.

Please go troll elsewhere, you really add nothing to this thread.
It's almost as if I don't believe them because you see it in nearly every other medium....and it's not like the person needs to do all the work, they just need to help lighten the load, in terms of the art. I don't buy that no one else on the planet is capable of doing that. If people quit looking for help because one person they looked at didn't work out then nothing would ever get done.
 

BoykaBoykov

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With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.


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It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.
 

atlas114

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wow boyka really like your rendition of Jenny!

to be honest i haven’t played since 0.13 and was waiting for the Jenny update to be released. but the new rework is kinda turning me off and i might just swear off the game entirely if he is spending half the year redoing art instead of moving the story forward. but my opinion is just that as i’m not a patron.
 

secretsonny

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With his budget he should be able to hire someone to work with him. Here, this took me like... 15 minutes, tops.


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It's not even close to perfect but it at least doesn't have her tits growing out of her sternum. His art has some serious flaws and is unacceptable quality for the amount of money that's put into it.
Your torso is either too long or not wide enough. I understand why you did the jawline but in all truth the original was fine. The breasts are too high and too small (maybe). Extending the length of the neck was unnecessary. I didn't think of it before but addition of a spine line and shoulder blade is a good idea.

Decent attempt.

All DC had to do was slightly decrease the size of the head and slightly lift the torso up a bit.
 
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