Aksy

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Nosy said that going forward we would have to balance both Richard and Sam helping out, sometime refusing one to ask the other instead to avoid "bad things"

So this is definitivly on the card.

What it also imply is that the path is going to get incredibly narrow as time went on.
Tbh, igf I understood correctly, 0.22 will be the path where Lovers route won't allow any mistakes anymore. I might even begin to think that even 1 error will be the end of it. And only ever 1 set/path/answers from the begining to the end will lead on Pure Lovers.
 
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wolfund

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Tbh, igf I understood correctly, 0.22 will be the path where Lovers route won't allow any mistakes anymore. I might even begin to think that even 1 error will be the end of it. And only ever 1 set/path/answers from the begining to the end will lead on Pure Lovers.
To be fair there had been many update where one mistake boot you out of lover. But it's probable that from this point on the number of possible mistake you can make PER update instead of one, mayyyybe two, is going to grow exponentially.

and yeah probably only one very specific path to pure lovers by the end.
 
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Aksy

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To be fair there had been many update where one mistake boot you out of lover. But it's probable that from this point on the number of possible mistake you can make PER update instead of one, mayyyybe two, is going to grow exponentially.

and yeah probably only one very specific path to pure lovers by the end.
What I meant is by that, you're on lover route but maybe if you only had sex with her the fewest time might equal being thrown out of lovers path in 0.22 no matter your choices
 
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2024wildboyz

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You can technically see what path on your save file when you save. Issue is tho, if you save and notice you got your path changed since last save, you dont know how, when, or undo lol. Mainly the reason I have like 30 saves.
I don't wanna sound exagg but I have about 5-10 saves per path. And they are not just the 3 main paths:

NTR
NTRS
Happy
Happy NTRS
Lover (pure Liz companion)
Lover (conservative)
Lover (declined invites to let Liz be with Sam instead)

So I probably have 50+ saves in total, lol.
 
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Lashrack

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I don't wanna sound exagg but I have about 5-10 saves per path. And they are not just the 3 main paths:

NTR
NTRS
Happy
Happy NTRS
Lover (pure Liz companion)
Lover (conservative)
Lover (declined invites to let Liz be with Sam instead)

So I probably have 50+ saves in total, lol.
NTR high and low will
happy with sam angry and happy with MC
Lovers with Sam happy and angry with MC
 
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2024wildboyz

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What I meant is by that, you're on lover route but maybe if you only had sex with her the fewest time might equal being thrown out of lovers path in 0.22 no matter your choices
As of the current version, there are options to decline the sex option, like "don't have sex with Liz" or "only fool around with Liz". But this can still make you stay in the Lovers path. However, there are other options that are critical. Those moments when Liz wants to spend time with you overall (regardless whether with sex or not). In one of the beginning conversation when Liz ask to spend time or spend the night but you declined or chose work, or those moments when you ignore Sam's warning and decided not to go to Liz, that definitely kicks you out of the Lovers path.

However, the latter part of 0.20 has become a Lover-safe haven regardless of what option you choose. Be it good or bad option, you remain in the Lover path. This is the part when Matt decided to do "soft approach" with Liz. From there, no matter what you choose, even if you select the bad option to make Liz blowjob Matt in the club bathroom or deep throat him in the office, you are still in Lovers path, as long as it is after the "Matt's soft approach".
 

ryg88

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Not the GF...her friend
So it's actually 4 routes then?

1. happy route with sam angry at MC
2. happy route with sam happy with MC
3. lovers route with sam angry at MC
4. lovers route with sam happy with MC

Or is it more of a mix of sam being happy and angry at the MC in both routes?
 
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Mrzero174

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Ok, so to summarise all the path

1. NTR LOW WILL
2. NTR HIGH WILL
3. NTR NTS
4. HAPPY
5. HAPPY NTS
6. HAPPY SAM ANGRY
7. HAPPY SAM HAPPY
8. HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY
9 . HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
10. LOVERS WITH LUST
11. LOVERS WITH LOW LUST
12. LOVERS SAM ANGRY
13. LOVERS SAM HAPPY

AND SO THIS IS THE CORRENT SAVE FILE YOU'LL HAVE TO GET ? I ADDED THE HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY AND HAPPY SINCE THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT BUT TIME WILL TELL.
 
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Jiroah

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Ok, so to summarise all the path

1. NTR LOW WILL
2. NTR HIGH WILL
3. NTR NTS
4. HAPPY
5. HAPPY NTS
6. HAPPY SAM ANGRY
7. HAPPY SAM HAPPY
8. HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY
9 . HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
10. LOVERS WITH LUST
11. LOVERS WITH LOW LUST
12. LOVERS SAM ANGRY
13. LOVERS SAM HAPPY

AND SO THIS IS THE CORRENT SAVE FILE YOU'LL HAVE TO GET ? I ADDED THE HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY AND HAPPY SINCE THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT BUT TIME WILL TELL.
I notice some mistakes the mood of Sam for now only matter in NTS scenarios so 6,7,12,13 don't exist.

Another thing Lust don't matter for now in Lovers, but Lewdness probably will.
 
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ryg88

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...the mood of Sam for now only matter in NTS scenarios...
If this is indeed the case, then we'll probably get the ff:

For NTR route:
- NTR HIGH WILL
- NTR LOW WILL
- NTR NTS
- NTR NTS SAM HAPPY
- NTR NTS SAM ANGRY

For the HAPPY route:
- HAPPY
- HAPPY NTS
- HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
- HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY

For the LOVERS route:
- LOVERS HIGH LUST
- LOVERS LOW LUST

edit:
the NTR NTS SAM routes are removed since the Sam's mood plays no role in the NTR route (H/T Jiroah):

https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-mobile-v0-20-5-nosyfellow.238597/post-17619929
 
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Jiroah

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If this is indeed the case, then we'll probably get the ff:

For NTR route:
- NTR HIGH WILL
- NTR LOW WILL
- NTR NTS
- NTR NTS SAM HAPPY
- NTR NTS SAM ANGRY

For the HAPPY route:
- HAPPY
- HAPPY NTS
- HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
- HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY

For the LOVERS route:
- LOVERS HIGH LUST
- LOVERS LOW LUST
You should remove :
NTR NTS SAM HAPPY
NTR NTS SAM ANGRY

As for now there is no way to influence Sam mood in the NTR path, you can only do that on happy nts
 
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Mrzero174

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I notice some mistakes the mood of Sam for now only matter in NTS scenarios so 6,7,12,13 don't exist.

Another thing Lust don't matter for now in Lovers, but Lewdness probably will.
SORRY I ACTUALLY MIXED LEWD WITH LUST BUT THANKS FOR TELLING AND SO CORRECT IS THIS RIGHT

1. LOVERS LEWD
2. LOVERS CONSERVATIVE
3. HAPPY
4. HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
5. HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY
6. NTR HIGH WILL
7. NTR LOW WILL
8. NTR NTS SAM HAPPY
9. NTR NTS SAM ANGRY


RIGHT ?
 

Jiroah

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SORRY I ACTUALLY MIXED LEWD WITH LUST BUT THANKS FOR TELLING AND SO CORRECT IS THIS RIGHT

1. LOVERS LEWD
2. LOVERS CONSERVATIVE
3. HAPPY
4. HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
5. HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY
6. NTR HIGH WILL
7. NTR LOW WILL
8. NTR NTS SAM HAPPY
9. NTR NTS SAM ANGRY


RIGHT ?
As i said in my previous post there is no way to influence Sam mood in NTR so you just should writre NTR NTS
 
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wolfund

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If this is indeed the case, then we'll probably get the ff:

For NTR route:
- NTR HIGH WILL
- NTR LOW WILL
- NTR NTS
- NTR NTS SAM HAPPY
- NTR NTS SAM ANGRY

For the HAPPY route:
- HAPPY
- HAPPY NTS
- HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
- HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY

For the LOVERS route:
- LOVERS HIGH LUST
- LOVERS LOW LUST

edit:
the NTR NTS SAM routes are removed since the Sam's mood plays no role in the NTR route (H/T Jiroah):

https://f95zone.to/threads/ntr-mobile-v0-20-5-nosyfellow.238597/post-17619929
you also have variation for conservative and lewds for most happy/lovers path and for a few pics too on NTR I think. NTR NTS is also cut in high will / low will

Last update also imply that there will be variations depending of Richard too.

yeah, there's a lot. especially as unlike most others VN, you can move around most path at any point in the game with slightly different outcome depending of your choices.
 
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JQuillon

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Ok, so to summarise all the path

1. NTR LOW WILL
2. NTR HIGH WILL
3. NTR NTS
4. HAPPY
5. HAPPY NTS
6. HAPPY SAM ANGRY
7. HAPPY SAM HAPPY
8. HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY
9 . HAPPY NTS SAM HAPPY
10. LOVERS WITH LUST
11. LOVERS WITH LOW LUST
12. LOVERS SAM ANGRY
13. LOVERS SAM HAPPY

AND SO THIS IS THE CORRENT SAVE FILE YOU'LL HAVE TO GET ? I ADDED THE HAPPY NTS SAM ANGRY AND HAPPY SINCE THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT BUT TIME WILL TELL.
I almost never made Sam angry, so I don't have saves for those (okay, I've got one in happy NTS for the scene on the beach ;) ), and I certainly don't have a "low lust" option, lol. However, I also went for "helped Richard/didn't help Richard" variants in the last update, especially on NTR, as I think these may prove crucial down the line.
 
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Jiroah

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I almost never made Sam angry, so I don't have saves for those (okay, I've got one in happy NTS for the scene on the beach ;) ), and I certainly don't have a "low lust" option, lol. However, I also went for "helped Richard/didn't help Richard" variants in the last update, especially on NTR, as I think these may prove crucial down the line.
I loved the beach event on happy nts particulary when you let things go too far. Sam threat at the end is priceless "If it happen again i will show you what i mean by going too far". I wonder what Sam will do if you piss her enough. Will she make Liz do some erotic modelling or better porn directly...
 
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JQuillon

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I loved the beach event on happy nts particulary when you let things go too far. Sam threat at the end is priceless "If it happen again i will show you what i mean by going too far". I wonder what Sam will do if you piss her enough. Will she make Liz do some erotic modelling or better porn directly...
Same--which is exactly the reason why I have this "angry Sam" save, just in case... :LOL:
 
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