RPGM Defenestration [v0.5b] [Fresh Mulan]
I wouldn't want to see an experiment along the lines of how much money it'd take to have a Patreon game developer driving its game into the ground.
Um yeah. I said that you brought up some valid points and that i was wrong on some BUT MY ORIGINAL OPINION STILL STANDS as per quote 7 minutes ago
can you not read?
I never implied that you have an issue with people who play for free. But you do have a problem with them having any voice and want to silence them, as per post 1094 and that's unreasonable and even more regressive because you are basically denying the developers the entirety of the feedback pool outside of Patreon. And could you possibly point out to me how criticisms in our case lead to a regressive effect? Literally every major direction decision so far has been voted by Patreons.
And your basis is invalid, anyone who plays the game can and should complain about something that they don't like. Simply supporting the game financially don't magically make one's feedback any more or less valid for good game direction, as can be seen by the poll for her face.
To give you an example with exaggeration, say tomorrow a billionaire hijacked the poll with money backed dominant voting power and make the game scat based, every single smut scene in the game will have Kira playing with doodoo, now by your stance, since it's voted in, every non-paying player in some 3rd party smut discussion forum should just keep silence?
You cannot even back your original opinion, no valid rational basis behind it, nothing at all. It never stood to begin with. You'd always be disappointed with that opinion, especially here where smut games are shared freely and most importantly where free speech isn't penalized and development decisions aren't beyond criticism for mere freeloaders. The criticisms will keep coming and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
1. tf you mean i want to silence them i just said they have their opinions and i have mine i just dont like the complaining.
2. regressive.
adjective
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becoming less advanced; returning to a former or less developed state.
Like i stated before, this entire update will take mulan at least 12 weeks of coding and artwork, all of that coding and artwork is for the new character model. If all of the complaining works and Mulan chooses to go back to the old style, it would take another 12 weeks for the additional coding, changing coding and artwork. hence why i said regressive
- Jul 2, 2017
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Time to take this personal discussion to PM, please.
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I understand that. I'm not demanding anything. I'm just stating my opinion, because I've already posted my reasons to play this game. The art and the setting were the only things that stood up to me. I loved Kira's original look from the beginning of the game. She reminds me a lot of 2B, who's a character I also really like. The appearance change in the "New Look" event looked horrible to me. It doesn't matter if I'm not a patreon, this is my opinion and it won't change. I would definitely support the developer if I loved this game like you do. But like I said, there are very few things I really like in this game and the dev just ruined the biggest one to me.
I'm not imposing anything, I'm not asking the dev to change anything either. If he thinks that's the best thing for his game, fine. But you can't simply shut everyone up because you happen to support his decisions, just like I can't simply shrug it off and start to like the new look, because that's not how things work.
aa14 Aahah... My fault.
I only tested it on the new Welcome Party update. Not the main game. I am guessing somewhere between version 0.4.3 and 0.4.4, they migrated to more heavily depend on RPG maker (or whatever else they're now using). Their code expects images in *.PNG format, but their files are in *.RPGMVP format, which is why it can't find any of them. And I don't even know where that "length error" comes from. So the game won't work in its current state without editing the source code.
I just tested it on a MacOS High Sierra VM. Welcome Party works, but version 0.4.4 has the same errors as you. As long as there aren't any errors in the game itself, the steps I outlined earlier should work, so maybe version 0.4.3 would. I haven't tested it.
gamcore check out post https://f95zone.to/threads/defenestration-v0-44-fresh-mulan.10695/post-1987388
This works with the new Welcome Party update, but version 0.4.4 with it's missing images and undefined 'length' errors are a completely issue. If someone still has version 0.4.3 they could test it and let people know.
Cheers
Aj
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the 0.44, the new art style its only in the stand alone quest
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0.44 have a error ! an closed the game XD
[0605/114755.082:ERROR:http_transport_win.cc(175)] WinHttpCrackUrl: Die URL verwendet kein bekanntes Protokoll. (0x2ee6)
[0605/130357.402:ERROR:http_transport_win.cc(175)] WinHttpCrackUrl: Die URL verwendet kein bekanntes Protokoll. (0x2ee6)
the game closes now and then without reason
i give uo make no fun wehen game many times closed
[0605/114755.082:ERROR:http_transport_win.cc(175)] WinHttpCrackUrl: Die URL verwendet kein bekanntes Protokoll. (0x2ee6)
[0605/130357.402:ERROR:http_transport_win.cc(175)] WinHttpCrackUrl: Die URL verwendet kein bekanntes Protokoll. (0x2ee6)
the game closes now and then without reason
i give uo make no fun wehen game many times closed
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After playing the Welcome Party ... the poll was totally between a Male and Female Protagonist wasn't it? The pole was split evenly so they HAD to combine them and we have the new ... Kee Ra!
But honestly? If this is her new "Base" form i can only imagine how bad the bimbo and other version is going to be. Ah well, only time will tell.
But honestly? If this is her new "Base" form i can only imagine how bad the bimbo and other version is going to be. Ah well, only time will tell.
I prefer Bimbo Slut for Kira after mission New You. Or the same without pink hire if whe choise the Slut path.
Normal? No, just the change whe made in new you after speak to Lenin, whe make the choise and in base the choie the final result be the perfect mix betwen them.
I usually just lurk around but I'll share my opinion in this one as well, the prologue might not be super interesting but bear with me as I doubt I'm the only one.
There's too many projects I like in patreon and other platforms and with my budget I have to make choices, as such I tend to spread out my donations after a period of observation and use my gut feeling.
This is honestly a game that was on my radar for support but just missed the ship. I really liked the art and the story was good (i mean, it was no novel but for a standard of a parody game it was way up there).
For a game I discovered about two versions ago this climbed my list pretty fast.
I saw some complaints about the art using other people's work but it's mostly about giving credit.
Personally I think the author should have stuck to either, commission or enlist authors of previous work (if possible) or find an artist with a close enough style to keep going as unaffected as possible (again, i get that this is probably harder to do than it seems).
The current art-style looks off, and I personally dislike it. As a major point in why i liked the game, this effectively extends my suspension of support. (This is why creators have to know how to balance patron and public opinion, A patron is a source of income, the public might become one, and admittedly this is not an easy thing to do)
Ultimately, this is FreshMulan's project and I will not dole out judgement on their decisions as I think artists should follow their inspiration and whomever likes it will ultimately support it. (additionally I'm not self centered enough to think the creator owes me anything, I'll only go as far as share my feedback)
If the project keeps on this direction it'll probably drop off from my list, but I'll still wish them good luck.
If anything, I think the criticism that is happening on this ultimately comes from a good place. They are people who enjoyed the game and are frustrated to see it change in a direction that'll take that enjoyment away.
This is just the 2 cents from a random dumbfuck on the internet [which would be me for anyone who might actually wonder.]
There's too many projects I like in patreon and other platforms and with my budget I have to make choices, as such I tend to spread out my donations after a period of observation and use my gut feeling.
This is honestly a game that was on my radar for support but just missed the ship. I really liked the art and the story was good (i mean, it was no novel but for a standard of a parody game it was way up there).
For a game I discovered about two versions ago this climbed my list pretty fast.
I saw some complaints about the art using other people's work but it's mostly about giving credit.
Personally I think the author should have stuck to either, commission or enlist authors of previous work (if possible) or find an artist with a close enough style to keep going as unaffected as possible (again, i get that this is probably harder to do than it seems).
The current art-style looks off, and I personally dislike it. As a major point in why i liked the game, this effectively extends my suspension of support. (This is why creators have to know how to balance patron and public opinion, A patron is a source of income, the public might become one, and admittedly this is not an easy thing to do)
Ultimately, this is FreshMulan's project and I will not dole out judgement on their decisions as I think artists should follow their inspiration and whomever likes it will ultimately support it. (additionally I'm not self centered enough to think the creator owes me anything, I'll only go as far as share my feedback)
If the project keeps on this direction it'll probably drop off from my list, but I'll still wish them good luck.
If anything, I think the criticism that is happening on this ultimately comes from a good place. They are people who enjoyed the game and are frustrated to see it change in a direction that'll take that enjoyment away.
This is just the 2 cents from a random dumbfuck on the internet [which would be me for anyone who might actually wonder.]
It is just to big change how she looked before and now. It is like turning normal person to retired silicon pornostar in a seconds. Maybe new art look more favourable for new kira in larger cg's but I just lost all wiill to play after seeing her for first time. Dose she look like secret agent to you?