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Gunsmoke Games

Something Unlimited
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Sep 5, 2018
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Haven't played this game in a update or two now, but it's always been one of my favorites.
Mainly because of the amazing art-style.

Reading through the last couple pages, it seems that people are thinking that "why not put that BoB development time for SU as well"

I obviously can't look into your team's mind
But I can understand that after years and years drawing the same stuff, that you just need something different for once.
To keep motivation high and most important to recharge the batteries.

But I think that people are just really scared at the moment, scared that this game might be dying.
Lots of abandonment issues on F95(for good reason)

But you guys still have my trust.
The last 18 months(give or take).
You guys have been producing a lot of content, been open with the fans about the plan and going of things.
And most importantly for me, you guys have been transparent about things that go well, but also about the fuck-ups.

Keep doing what you guys have been doing, and I hope to see much more amazing SU content in 2020.
(Would hope to see some more Stargirl personally :) )
Abandon????? You boys are crazy! SR7 wants to keep doing SU forever. Even when we eventually add more projects (OC and such) SU will still see regular updates.
 

Kylar Stern

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Abandon????? You boys are crazy! SR7 wants to keep doing SU forever. Even when we eventually add more projects (OC and such) SU will still see regular updates.
SU being completed in 2050 confirmed!!! :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL: jk, but in all seriousness, you guys keep doing your thing. You will always have my support!
 

destroyerofassholes

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Oct 23, 2019
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the sheer scale of this game is crazy lmao. i wonder what the rebuild will be like. i'm glad they ditched the early trash animations, stills are better tbh.

(bendorbreak2>su, fite me)
 

Carcosa_

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May 14, 2019
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There is re-use of sprites with different arm positions, or facial expressions. Your question insinuated we just swapped heads on all characters . Each character has a different palate/colour scheme. But sex scenes, or costumes in those scenes really multiply the work. It's the fact we let the player choose the costume that really multiplies workload.
Sure, but changing the palate/color scheme is still reusing the same asset.

Have you thought about just not adding so many costumes and focusing more on adding new scenes instead? SR7 complains about how monotonous his job is, but he's the one that decided to add so many costumes for every girl and to basically introduce the same sex progression in the cells.

SR7 wants to keep doing SU forever.
I don't think that's something you should be admitting.
 

Kojj4

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Nov 7, 2018
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Well, maybe you should take a moment to add new characters and work on existing ones. For example, if each update one character is complete and one is added, why not make two characters complete? what do you think?
or maybe one complete and another incomplete that in the next update just complete and make another incomplete and so on.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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Sep 5, 2018
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Sure, but changing the palate/color scheme is still reusing the same asset.

Have you thought about just not adding so many costumes and focusing more on adding new scenes instead? SR7 complains about how monotonous his job is, but he's the one that decided to add so many costumes for every girl and to basically introduce the same sex progression in the cells.


I don't think that's something you should be admitting.
It's not using the same asset at all! There has been a guy around for the last 4 years. Internally we reference him as "same body, different head guy". I know you're not him as you sound reasonable . Artists are a strange bunch, they have processes and beliefs. I'm sure there is easier or faster methods. These typically come at a cost of quality, something SR7 firmly will not use. It's 4.5 years in we have explored every single idea regarding saving time.

As for the costumes, it was set as a precedent early on. You must remember this game was started in 2015, we have had to learn in front of the public eye. Not an easy task! There is many things currently in SU that we would overhaul, or outright never do in future projects. As for costumes, there is a real emphasis on workload multiplication when making the decision to add them.

As for SU continuing on forever. Our Patreon is Gunsmoke Games, it's to support whatever we do. We will not stop SU, cause if we did, someone else would continue it. We are not ready to pass the torch yet. SU will live on forever, either in our hands or someone else.
 
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Krugger

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Funny you would say that and put a dead project as example.
You're right. But I didn't say the game will live forever or if it's abandoned someone else would do the same. If someone designed it, something is wrong. Yet another identical game (copied) and placed on a Ren'py engine. By no means did I want to set examples or attack someone, I just said that if the game is abandoned someone would try to do it, but I think the person who tries to make an equal should do something different. I just say that people delude themselves easily.
 

Carcosa_

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It's not using the same asset at all! There has been a guy around for the last 4 years. Internally we reference him as "same body, different head guy". I know you're not him as you sound reasonable . Artists are a strange bunch, they have processes and beliefs. I'm sure there is easier or faster methods. These typically come at a cost of quality, something SR7 firmly will not use. It's 4.5 years in we have explored every single idea regarding saving time.

As for the costumes, it was set as a precedent early on. You must remember this game was started in 2015, we have had to learn in front of the public eye. Not an easy task! There is many things currently in SU that we would overhaul, or outright never do in future projects. As for costumes, there is a real emphasis on workload multiplication when making the decision to add them.

As for SU continuing on forever. Our Patreon is Gunsmoke Games, it's to support whatever we do. We will not stop SU, cause if we did, someone else would continue it. We are not ready to pass the torch yet. SU will live on forever, either in our hands or someone else.
So it's not the same asset, but using the same body type saves time? So he redraws generally the same body from scratch? Is this what you're saying?

And saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. I don't blame you because the patreon model supports longer development times, but most devs at least pretend that's not the case. It's weird to see someone admit it.
 

LordPalpatine

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So it's not the same asset, but using the same body type saves time? So he redraws generally the same body from scratch? Is this what you're saying?

And saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. I don't blame you because the patreon model supports longer development times, but most devs at least pretend that's not the case. It's weird to see someone admit it.
" saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. "Pffff dude get lost because most people will always want to see new content introduced into SU
 

Carcosa_

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May 14, 2019
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" saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. "Pffff dude get lost because most people will always want to see new content introduced into SU
I think most people would be happier with a proper release cycle that will eventually end with the game's completion rather than the game giving you crumbs until SR7 dies of old age.
 

xMendoza

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So what should we be focusing on?
Well hello , so what I think about the direction of the game: hmmm so far the game is in a good direction
My suggestions and opinions:
- Well I wold like to see more interaction between Lex and Supergirl,Vixen,etc (like the dialogs between Raven x Jinx or Wonder Woman x Circe). And I really mean only some simple dialogs, I think this way the game will become more alive.By the way I love those 2 scenes (Jinx x Raven and WW x Circe) good job.
-Next about new girls in the game (Maxima,Sazu,etc): maybe I will be alone with this but I don't have any problems with the fact that you guys are adding new girls in game ,what the heck, even contrary I hope that you guys will add as many girls as possible.But I really hope that you will give to Sazu (Strip and Dance options because right now her scenes are too rushed) the same for Talia ( her strip option and the fact that you can have sex with her immediately)
-As for buggs well I hope that when the rebuilt will be ready this problem will be solved
-And I also saw someone that was complained about the costumes from this game, I love the costumes from this game. SU is maybe the only game where the costumes really mean something.
As for SU continuing on forever. Our Patreon is Gunsmoke Games, it's to support whatever we do. We will not stop SU, cause if we did, someone else would continue it. We are not ready to pass the torch yet. SU will live on forever, either in our hands or someone else.
And I want to make a correction on this statement that you just made because many person will interpret that you guys do not want to ever finish the game.When Gunsmoke said that this game will never be truly finished, he meant that there will always be something that can be added to the game like a new character or a new event .
 

Gunsmoke Games

Something Unlimited
Game Developer
Sep 5, 2018
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So it's not the same asset, but using the same body type saves time? So he redraws generally the same body from scratch? Is this what you're saying?
More or less. If you watch the shows many of the characters have similar body types. Game is 4.5 years old precedent was set long ago my friend.


Well hello , so what I think about the direction of the game: hmmm so far the game is in a good direction
My suggestions and opinions:
- Well I wold like to see more interaction between Lex and Supergirl,Vixen,etc (like the dialogs between Raven x Jinx or Wonder Woman x Circe). And I really mean only some simple dialogs, I think this way the game will become more alive.By the way I love those 2 scenes (Jinx x Raven and WW x Circe) good job.
-Next about new girls in the game (Maxima,Sazu,etc): maybe I will be alone with this but I don't have any problems with the fact that you guys are adding new girls in game ,what the heck, even contrary I hope that you guys will add as many girls as possible.But I really hope that you will give to Sazu (Strip and Dance options because right now her scenes are too rushed) the same for Talia ( her strip option and the fact that you can have sex with her immediately)
-As for buggs well I hope that when the rebuilt will be ready this problem will be solved
-And I also saw someone that was complained about the costumes from this game, I love the costumes from this game. SU is maybe the only game where the costumes really mean something.

And I want to make a correction on this statement that you just made because many person will interpret that you guys do not want to ever finish the game.When Gunsmoke said that this game will never be truly finished, he meant that there will always be something that can be added to the game like a new character or a new event .
As always Mendoza you're a class act. Yes the game is set-up to continuously add more content to it. Finish to us is when we stop adding to it. But then someone else will just come along and add to it themselves (look at witch trainer, it's still being added to by groups).
 
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Ninro

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Dec 2, 2018
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the art is a masterclass, the story is enjoyable, lot of content, can't wait to play more, one of the best games in f95
 
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armion82

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Gunsmoke Games can we have more content for wonder woman or black canary please ?
At least one of them will get an update this year.I realy doubt they will ignore both.After all we have only 7 superheroines to be completed.I hope we get 4 more done this year+2 or 3 new superheroines.
I personally wanted to see Stargirl in game? Its very long from her release and no cocntent for her
Maybe the upcoming TV series will give them the push to finish her.
And maybe to add Batwoman too.
 

Ninro

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At least one of them will get an update this year.I realy doubt they will ignore both.After all we have only 7 superheroines to be completed.I hope we get 4 more done this year+2 or 3 new superheroines.
More catwoman content will also be amazing..
 
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