Ren'Py Big Brother: Another Story Rebuild [v0.04.02] [Aleksey90]

[victor659]

The dev is probably a fun of the original game and although he will change a few things the main concept will be similar to the original game. As he already said the first 4-5 weeks will be almost the same. I don't understand what people who didn't like the original do here.

Anyway the game is not actually playable yet. The dev has a lot of work to do. I will mention some problems that I have notices as I played for the first 10 days and probably there are more. I recommend the dev to fix the problems first and after continue with the story and opportunities because otherwise the game will become a mess.

- Missing images
- A lot of exception errors (probably by missing images)
- Punishment system is not implemented
- You can't give the swimsuit and books to Lisa and Alice
- You can't help Lisa with her lessons
- Actually you can't progress with any opportunity.
- Images of Lisa with 'red bikini' and 'sleeping without pants' and some other images that shouldn't be from the start of the game
- You can't raise the mood of the girls over 'not bad' because the mood drop 2 times per day (If I remember correctly in the original game drops only 1 per day)
- Russian text and not so good translation at some points

In other words wait for next updates.

 

[Scorpead]

man this game sucks its full with buggs i will wait a few updates and bug fixes to play again

 

[DawnCry]

Exactly this. I remember some people absolutely losing their shit when you passed the persuasion check and Eric overrode it so Ann believed him anyway. But to me, it was like, Ah - a worthy adversary...

Overall I wrote quite a bit about how the game would have been more interesting and consistent a few examples are:

-Anne and Eric relationship having 3 levels (girlfriend, submissive, slave), each of them having effects over how easily Anne believes Eric, how much power and influence he has on the house and how openly will he woo the girls. At girlfriend level she would cut Eric when doing something improper around her children and remain with most of the house's authority, at submissive she would start to listen more to him and let him do his advances unless they are too over the top, while at the slave level you can't count on Anne trying to stop Eric at anything. The point was that each level Anne falls can't be recovered but! you can take actions to make the fall slower or even block if for a time (like drugging Eric).

-Eric taking actions and generating opportunities to stop him, for example buying a gift for the girls (stealing the gift), interacting with them alone (suddenly appearing too) or plainly seducing them (don't let him). Even more the girls reacting based on your relationship with them and their relationship with Eric.

-More details rather than simply going to war or staying at peace, rather Eric gets pissed off each time you directly interrumpt his advances or know that you are the one that are limiting them, if you piss him off enough after he gets the girls you are going to the boot camp, however if you didn't piss him off and he gets the girl you can remain in the house and still try to get other secondary girls. Being able to make a deal to protect a girl based on blackmail or equivalent exchange (for example being able to protect Lisa while promising to not stop his advances with Alice or viceversa, breaking your word gives quite a penalty).

If you don't interrumpt him too much your relationship with him will increase and he will even give you money or give you seduction tips to help improve your skills.

-Having a point of no return (like for example getting a girl pregnant) but before he arrives there you can recover any girl if you work hard enough (except Anne that requires you to defeat Eric).

-Being careful of opportunities backfiring and introduce relationship effects on opportunities (for example a girl that has a good relationship with you may just call you a pervert in a friendly manner if you spy on her and she catches you, or if for example Eric catches you spying on a girl and you have a good relationship with him he won't punish you, of course on the contrary if people are mad at you they will try to get as much as they can out of you).

As it may be noticed, I didn't like the idea of Eric being the ultimate idiot but rather a bit more normal.

 

[hakulaku97]

Overall I wrote quite a bit about how the game would have been more interesting and consistent a few examples are:

-Anne and Eric relationship having 3 levels (girlfriend, submissive, slave), each of them having effects over how easily Anne believes Eric, how much power and influence he has on the house and how openly will he woo the girls. At girlfriend level she would cut Eric when doing something improper around her children and remain with most of the house's authority, at submissive she would start to listen more to him and let him do his advances unless they are too over the top, while at the slave level you can't count on Anne trying to stop Eric at anything. The point was that each level Anne falls can't be recovered but! you can take actions to make the fall slower or even block if for a time (like drugging Eric).

-Eric taking actions and generating opportunities to stop him, for example buying a gift for the girls (stealing the gift), interacting with them alone (suddenly appearing too) or plainly seducing them (don't let him). Even more the girls reacting based on your relationship with them and their relationship with Eric.

-More details rather than simply going to war or staying at peace, rather Eric gets pissed off each time you directly interrumpt his advances or know that you are the one that are limiting them, if you piss him off enough after he gets the girls you are going to the boot camp, however if you didn't piss him off and he gets the girl you can remain in the house and still try to get other secondary girls. Being able to make a deal to protect a girl based on blackmail or equivalent exchange (for example being able to protect Lisa while promising to not stop his advances with Alice or viceversa, breaking your word gives quite a penalty).

If you don't interrumpt him too much your relationship with him will increase and he will even give you money or give you seduction tips to help improve your skills.

-Having a point of no return (like for example getting a girl pregnant) but before he arrives there you can recover any girl if you work hard enough (except Anne that requires you to defeat Eric).

-Being careful of opportunities backfiring and introduce relationship effects on opportunities (for example a girl that has a good relationship with you may just call you a pervert in a friendly manner if you spy on her and she catches you, or if for example Eric catches you spying on a girl and you have a good relationship with him he won't punish you, of course on the contrary if people are mad at you they will try to get as much as they can out of you).

As it may be noticed, I didn't like the idea of Eric being the ultimate idiot but rather a bit more normal.

that just sounds like "Just because you think it's not possible doesn't mean that it isn't possible".
but if ther is a way to get rid of eric and let the girls be minem i am in for a treat but easy ways are always an option too DEV

 

[DawnCry]

that just sounds like "Just because you think it's not possible doesn't mean that it isn't possible".
but if ther is a way to get rid of eric and let the girls be minem i am in for a treat but easy ways are always an option too DEV

Haha a bit, overall the point would be in what I wrote to manage to control Eric or kick him out of the house before it's too late, overall making useful having a good relationship with Eric too. But well I just took Eric as the main antagonist and wanted for it to be quite an interesting conflict.

Overall in the original game there were other characters that could become antagonistic, like Alice, she started to be really dominant on the sex relationships between the MC and the girls in the house.

 

[hakulaku97]

Haha a bit, overall the point would be in what I wrote to manage to control Eric or kick him out of the house before it's too late, overall making useful having a good relationship with Eric too. But well I just took Eric as the main antagonist and wanted for it to be quite an interesting conflict.

Overall in the original game there were other characters that could become antagonistic, like Alice, she started to be really dominant on the sex relationships between the MC and the girls in the house.

i see a strategist, sounds like a plan so basically we never will be in a save harbor with our harem or what? if it is just like the original

 

[Pantisocrat]

so then how can you defeat eric in theory? when he can make what he want, ther must be a way to stop him, if not it is just another ntr game which would suck

I always compared it to the start of a JRPG. A powerful evil has taken over the entire kingdom, and you're some schmuck with like a wooden sword. So you have to progress and level up and defeat mini-bosses (protect and conquer Lisa and Alice) so eventually you're powerful enough for the final boss (defeating Eric and conquering Anne).

 

[hakulaku97]

I always compared it to the start of a JRPG. A powerful evil has taken over the entire kingdom, and you're some schmuck with like a wooden sword. So you have to progress and level up and defeat mini-bosses (protect and conquer Lisa and Alice) so eventually you're powerful enough for the final boss (defeating Eric and conquering Anne).

when you put it like that, it will really be grat satisfaction to get anne, love it

 

[DawnCry]

i see a strategist, sounds like a plan so basically we never will be in a save harbor with our harem or what? if it is just like the original

Well after you defeat Eric the harem is yours , giving you freedom to fully seduce Anne and enjoying quite a few developments, if I was the developer I would even enter the dominant/submissive part of the relationship and perhaps even lesbianism, Alice has the potential to be an antagonist if you don't make her submit, perhaps with her trying to seize control and get what she wants from you or even advancing her lesbianism tendencies?.

Overall I would have liked something like that yeah, Eric -> defeated -> Alice -> make her submit -> enjoy the harem and have fun.

 

[hakulaku97]

Well after you defeat Eric the harem is yours , giving you freedom to fully seduce Anne and enjoying quite a few developments, if I was the developer I would even enter the dominant/submissive part of the relationship and perhaps even lesbianism, Alice has the potential to be an antagonist if you don't make her submit, perhaps with her trying to seize control and get what she wants from you or even advancing her lesbianism tendencies?.

Overall I would have liked something like that yeah, Eric -> defeated -> Alice -> make her submit -> enjoy the harem and have fun.

man we should make our own BB game lads but i like that idea alot

 

[armion82]

Well, hope they actually develop the ntr in this one. The original seemed interesting at first but, became so boring and generic later before the author dipped out. I dunno if it was cause everyone kept whining about ntr that the dev shifted focus away from the ntr half or if that was his original plan. What I do know is it felt very frustrating to never see that side developed.

I have the suspicions that idea from the start was to make as much money as possible.And he dont have the intention to finish the game.Otherwise during all the months before the Patreon crusade,he can make an incest patch or something like all otthers have done.Some even half year before that.

The thing is that the original was developing a story, but because of the overwhelming amount of comments similar to the one you made, DS made the decision to move away from NTR entirely and the storyline ended half baked with no clear direction afterward. He lost alot of the NTR fans, while the fans that were left were endlessly bitching about the game with every update. I hope that by "different" you mean that this dev will not pander to either side of the argument and makes the game the way he intends.

Actualy he didn't lost that much patrons because he left NTR out.He even get much more patrons.He almost have reached 3000 patrons.Just before he have abandoned the game.

I have no insight into DS' motives etc, but this really doesn't make sense. He can hardly have wanted both to make the most money possible and always planned to abandon the game. He was pulling in I don't even remember how much, but north of $20K a month for sure. He always maintained that Patreon told him it was just not a chance, no way, no how, no Landlady shit or anything.

As I see it, he was already working in a genre he didn't care for himself (incest, which was just surging at the time), he'd been harried and henpecked into completely re-working the game so it wasn't even the idea he'd had and then the Patreon purges started. Even if he's exaggerating the Patreon angle (and there has never been any actual evidence of that)... I kinda don't blame him and I don't much care, either. The game went downhill fast after Eric was removed.

The idea was to get much more money from the incest game and then start his real sandbox games/his WoW,LoL,CS that will give him steady amount of money for less efforts.

 

[Pantisocrat]

I have the suspicions that idea from the start was to make as much money as possible.And he dont have the intention to finish the game.Otherwise during all the months before the Patreon crusade,he can make an incest patch or something like all otthers have done.Some even half year before that.

I have no insight into DS' motives etc, but this really doesn't make sense. He can hardly have wanted both to make the most money possible and always planned to abandon the game. He was pulling in I don't even remember how much, but north of $20K a month for sure. He always maintained that Patreon told him it was just not a chance, no way, no how, no Landlady shit or anything.

As I see it, he was already working in a genre he didn't care for himself (incest, which was just surging at the time), he'd been harried and henpecked into completely re-working the game so it wasn't even the idea he'd had and then the Patreon purges started. Even if he's exaggerating the Patreon angle (and there has never been any actual evidence of that)... I kinda don't blame him and I don't much care, either. The game went downhill fast after Eric was removed.

 

[Pantisocrat]

The idea was to get much more money from the incest game and then start his real sandbox games/his WoW,LoL,CS that will give him steady amount of money for less efforts.

Everyone's got their opinion, but that just doesn't make sense to me. I don't believe that's a plan someone would rationally form and execute.

 

[DawnCry]

man we should make our own BB game lads but i like that idea alot

Personally rather than BB I did create many game concepts and developed the ideas, even tried to learn coding to make it real, however the level of coding that it requires to follow any of the concepts I made was far out of my reach. A few ideas I made were:

-Adventurer's life: Overall in this game it was based on exploring dungeons and obtaining items and gifts for girls, however the bad thing is that the item may be cursed and have an effect on the girl that receives it, making her submissive or dominant, slutty or a prude, get her certain fetishes... it was quite centered on the main girls and there were 2 other adventurers that could give gifts and seduce the girls (one of them being male and the other a lesbian girl), overall it was a slice of life with main events to spice it up a bit.

-University life: This game I had two concepts over it, the common part was that we were at 3rd year on our university life and it was time for your little sister to go to university too, being accepted in the same one your parents decided that you two live together so that the cost isn't too great. The main part of the concept differed on the little sister. In one of them it was mostly based on her respect of you and her love, while the other she was a futanari that lusted for her brother but never did any advance because she considered her really weird. Overall in the university being quite a few main characters too, one being a female bully that she likes to mess with you.

-Rural life: In this one we were part of a village however we had to deal with strange cults and gods that wanted to take over the village, overall it was based on the effects that the different cults/gods have over the village and having to deal with them before they gain a lot of influence.

-Village chief life: In this one the concept was based on having to deal with external enemies such as goblins and at the start having to consolidate your power, overall after the death of your grandfather he named you as the next village chief, however the captain of the guard in the village (a veteran man soldier man quite lustful), and a female merchant with quite a lot of money and contacts want to fight you for the position. In this one the main girls could be captured in raids done by mobs like goblins and you had to rescue them.

Overall ignoring the names (which were concept names) I did quite a lot of development towards each idea but I failed badly when trying to make it into a game because I lacked the necessary knowledge and well, I suck too at making art. The main point in all games was to make the MC part of a world.

 

[SomeOldFart]

I may have said this before but I am REALLY hoping that this version will have a large amount of Eric and Alice progressing to having a secret affair behind Ann's back with Max spying on them in multiple situations. Like Alice is doing it to get revenge for being disciplined by Ann to start with but then they hook up more and more. Trying on outfits.... massages...... using candies..... Eric spying on Alice but eventually she gives in...... Eric and Alice doing the option of the cam show..... etc Then Max can work on Ann and steal her back away from Eric.... and get Olivia too..... The first book Alice read: Sugar Daddies....

 

[pedrohpfeu]

does anyone know the game cheats?

 

[Sethus1]

Although, I didn't like how you were practically forced to put up with Eric's bs.

That's another story When I played BB for the 1st time I was shocked how much influence on mom that guy had from the very beginning. And my opinion wasn't changed after that "domination" bs.

 

[kav33]

Thread made jan 2020? feels like I seen and played this game months ago...

 

[rf96]

Thread made jan 2020? feels like I seen and played this game months ago...

years

 

[HerrBalrog]

Aleksey90 ,the game is looking very nice! I'm really glad you decided to start this remake!

But PLEASE read my whole comment, I wrote it with all my love for Big Brother!

I hope those bugs get fixed soon, since you can't really advance the story yet... By the way, the ladder was a good idea, I loved it! Also, like people have said in comments before this one, please try to avoid the mistakes the original developer did, like bad translations and pacing!

I loved the variety of sex scenes between Mom and Eric, they seem REALLY well drawn, as opposed to that other shitty Big Brother remake. Opportunities also seem to be better explained when compared to the original.

I really wish to help and not just bash the game, so I made my list of bugs, conflicts and badly implemented features that I would be pleased if you could address/fix them:

-Money income is still quite slow, and the Advert functionality isn't properly explained (how much time until it is in effect? Can you stack those effects?)
-Stats grind (for now, stealth) is well done, but will take too long to reach a decent rank. I'd suggest you at least double the stealth acquisition rate, so we wouldn't have to spend weeks and weeks grinding stealth just to be able to access new scenes.
-Item delivery takes a long time. One really shouldn't have to wait days and days to receive the purchased items, specially since Eric can gift the same items before you get your bought items in your hand, therefore making you unable to gift them! Delivery should be always the next day at 16:00, that worked perfectly in the Original Game.
-Some opportunities show that they have been completed despite still being achievable (for example, the cameras opportunity is shown as "done", yet you can still buy cameras! Same with other opps, the game tells you what to do but doesn't allow you to! It's better to just say "more content in the next version" or something like that, rather than making the player think he skipped a step and failed to achieve the opportunity.
-Gifting: it is easier (for you, of course) to unlock the gifting of quest items AFTER the quest is fully developed. A good example is the Black Dress and Red Swimsuit: if you can't gift them, why put them in the shop?
-Still seeing a lot of Russian characters even when playing the game in English! This is not an urgent problem (I actually love the Russian language ) but it is something to keep an eye on! If you need any help with translation or proof reading, I offer my help! [ My email is herrbalrog@gmail.com ] Not only do I know a lot of English and a bit of Russian, I'm also a writer in real life so I know how to make the dialogue feel real, intimate, sexy and compelling, unlike most games who have very shallow and artificial dialogue which seems to have been written by a robot, with the sole purpose of filling space so the game would have a "story"... Also, if in the future you get interested in having the game translated to Portuguese (my native language) don't hesitate to ask me!

Overall, your remake has tremendous potential, even if it may take some time to get rid of the bugs and story inconsistencies! Big Brother is my #1 erotic game of all time, so I (and a ton of other people) really care about what happens to it! I don't have the money yet, but hopefully come March I'll have enough to become a $20 Patreon, since your effort clearly deserves it

Good work and good luck!