kidderyao

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The 2 hours to beach thing also doesn't work as in not advancing time 2 hours when moving there despite the bar showing +2h. Or what is it supposed to do?

(some other dates, Cherrie visits come to mind esp, also do not advance time)

(Palla's movie date is also borken, triggering on any girl's 'invite to a date' icon while she is present, very confusing)

If you guys need some coding help I'll be happy to lend a hand. I've spent enough time in the renpy console fixing random stuff.
preg
 

Zero201

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So played the game and loved it despite the grind although I seem to be stuck with Kylie she is currently at 50 love points and one yandere point yet she seems to have stopped reacting to anything I do with other girls I tried kissing, complimenting, spanking, petting, and tickling bree in front of her and she still did not give a reaction not even an increase in her yandere score it is still stuck at 1 so I can't trigger the event where she gets mad for flirting with another girl does anyone else have this problem if so how do I fix it?
 

ThunderRob

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first..you dont want yandere Kylie :D she cut's off Bree's head and hands it to you as a present in a box and then slashes you to bits..game over :p
 

CurtisBlaydes

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Pressing menu on android doesn't actually show the menu but the save screen instead, having no option to load saves either unless you delete reload file.
 

Zero201

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first..you dont want yandere Kylie :D she cut's off Bree's head and hands it to you as a present in a box and then slashes you to bits..game over :p
Oh well regardless I still cannot progress her event it seems I may have stumbled upon a bug that prevents Kylie from reacting to anything
 

rockd

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This game has so much potential. I wish the devs would rather focus on existing girls rather than constantly introducing new ones. Also I'd rather prefer some kind of story instead of an hour long mindless grind. Does anyone actually enjoy grinding stats instead of actual conversions with the characters? All that grinding for really short sex scenes... Imo other games like FET or Summertime Saga do a far better job when it comes to designing enjoyable character interactions.
 
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Andrealphus

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This game has so much potential. I wish the devs would rather focus on existing girls rather than constantly introducing new ones. Also I'd rather prefer some kind of story instead of an hour long mindless grind. Does anyone actually enjoy grinding stats instead of actual conversions with the characters? All that grinding for really short sex scenes... Imo other games like FET or Summertime Saga do a far better job when it comes to designing enjoyable character interactions.
Then go play them
 

Andrealphus

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I will even without you telling me. Great how you are so open to criticism. Now I wish I had not supported you on Patreon before.
I am open to constructive critics not just shitting on something I have been working on for three years without any argument.
Each piece of story is separated by at most 10 minutes of actual game not stupid useless minigames. That's not mindless grinding.
I am sorry you are butt hurt by my answer, really.
 
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rockd

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I wasn't shitting on anything and compared to you, I was being rather polite. It's not like I am the only person being critical of the grindy "gameplay" mechanics. Maybe you should start to reflect on some of the low star reviews, instead of spending another three years on making a game that isn't all that enjoyable to play. (--> then don't play it --> Yeah, I won't)
 
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Cartageno

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Yeah, of course the reviews for this game are below average for this kind of game, which obviously means some people don't like it as much while they like others, of a similar type (the examples you mentioned: 2d graphic sandbox), more. And that can be reason for concern if Andrealphus wanted to compete with them.

But for one point it would be absolutely annoying if all devs would go for the way that gets them a maximum rating because that would mean most games would be virtually the same. And while many people would enjoy that (hence the good ratings), others not as much, so if you find your niche then you can ignore part of the rating issue. That there's always some players not liking games is unavoidable, you may just not fit their taste (and since I heard complaints about "my mother is not a virgin but had sex with other people" I think everything is possible). So games being different is a good thing for the whole genre, even if it means some people will enjoy less games.

And I think this is especially true with the whole "grindy" question. Some players, myself included, prefer a slow story progression, prefer working a bit for their reward. Others want to have every girl jumping at them in the first scene. Yet others are inbetween. None of them is wrong, but again, many would not like the other games.

And the second point is: a dev more or less has to do what they want to do. Listen to their players and patrons for ideas, sure. But a dev who makes a game solely for player requests will most likely make a game they themselves would not like as much, and the game will suffer for it. There's more to it than just "drop mechanic X and add kink Y and people will love your game more". They probably won't, even if they despise mechanic X and love kink Y.

As for me, of the three games compared here I prefer L&S by far and would be disappointed if it were to be closer to the others. Which admittedly is a somewhat moot point since I am not a patron (so far), and it doesn't mean that the other games are bad, just that different people have different tastes.
 

Andrealphus

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I honestly don't care about my rating on F95, the people coming to my patreon page or itch.io from here are a very little fraction of my players (thank you google analytics for the info) :)
I do think however that both my interactions with everyone so far proves that I am both civil and willing to take advices and opinions and use them in the game.
I am pretty proud of my game and what I accomplished in those three years.
 

BryEpoo

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I honestly don't care about my rating on F95, the people coming to my patreon page or itch.io from here are a very little fraction of my players (thank you google analytics for the info) :)
I do think however that both my interactions with everyone so far proves that I am both civil and willing to take advices and opinions and use them in the game.
I am pretty proud of my game and what I accomplished in those three years.
It's like walkin up to someone and saying "Hey! Your baby's ugly!" Who does that shit? Yeah that might be their opinion, but keep it to themself. There's always gotta be somebody that has to shit on a parade. A damn good parade at that. Shit I'm proud just to have this game. I think it's pretty damn cool.
 
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Vasin

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Yeah, man, I'm right there with you. I keep saying that everyone but Morgan just clogs up the game, and it's better off without them, but does anyone listen? Nooooo.
 
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This game has so much potential. I wish the devs would rather focus on existing girls rather than constantly introducing new ones. Also I'd rather prefer some kind of story instead of an hour long mindless grind. Does anyone actually enjoy grinding stats instead of actual conversions with the characters? All that grinding for really short sex scenes... Imo other games like FET or Summertime Saga do a far better job when it comes to designing enjoyable character interactions.
As one of the people who has written large sections of some of the story (Palla, Cassidy), your implication that there's no story is clearly not as polite as you believe it to be.

Andrealphus' answer was rather flip, sure, but your comment isn't even factually accurate. There's rather a lot of conversation with many of the characters.

Constructive criticism talks about problems that can be improved, points out things that can be done better. It's incredibly valuable, and I for one appreciate constructive criticism.

But for the life of me, I can't see anything in your comment that fits the word "constructive". There's nothing in that paragraph that suggests there's anything that can or should be done to improve things, it just says other games are better. As a negative review I guess that's fine.

And if you feel it's okay to write something like this about a game and are hurt by a flip answer, I guess you see the world pretty one-sided. That's fine too, I guess. Nobody has to like everything. You don't have to like this game, and Andrealphus doesn't have to like your negative review, right?
 

Featherine

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Can you get pregnant if you're playing as female MC? Is there any content for that? Walkthrough mentions everything about Male MC getting girls pregnant but not the other way around so I was wondering.
 

Ugh123

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I've heard of this wonderful thing called using search function, you might want to try it.
really? What a wonderful participant on this discussion board you are.

Other than folks having the same question, there were no answers. (I was having the issue with LP=60 (120) and KP=75) - what finally worked for me was doing the date in the afternoon on Saturday, then when it asks to continue for the evening, selecting the cinema again - then it triggered the final event that was missing for Morgan. After that, the Morgan/Kleio pub event worked as well (i.e., don't have to choose one of them)

Sorry to see folks giving the game designer a hard time - I think the game is well done. Hope there are many more updates to come!
 
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