VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.23] [Clever name games]

[Spiderfox]

Nah, it's not going to happen. With how people reacted to the repetitive cheating scene with Shannon. Though I suppose it is theoretically possible since Lillith has a boyfriend.



She was a former love interest who cheated on the MC. The cheating tag doesn't apply and the NTR tag doesn't either but some felt that something should be noted about the scene. Personally I disliked it from a storytelling perspective, I don't need to see it more than once for it to be ingrained that she's a cheating bitch, also didn't like how he couldn't remember his horrible nightmare even though we watched it 3 times. But no it isn't NTR.

I don't like that he can't remember his dreams either but I don't mind the three dream slow build up to getting the total picture. But that could just be me.

 

[Badjourasmix]

As someone already quoted the incest tag, the NTR rules for the tag read as,
Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

I think the 3 sisters are clearly romantic interests at this point in the story, and the only reason the BF of Lilith exists right now is to make you feel jealous about it. MC has said several times now that he doesn't trust him and thinks he isn't a good person.

I think following the rules of the site, this game DOES deserve an NTR tag right now.

I don't think this game really deserves the NTR tag. I think at this point in the story the mc is more worried about the intentions of the guy, so she doesn't get hurt. I don't think is jealousy. Having the NTR tag people will assume that the girls are cheating on the mc and having sex with other guys, which doesn't happen in the game.

 

[rodneyeatme]

I don't like that he can't remember his dreams either but I don't mind the three dream slow build up to getting the total picture. But that could just be me.

If they had some dreamlike weirdness that broke up the symmetrical narrative of the three dreams, it would have worked better.

As it played out, it was just like a mid-season tv episode re-using footage so they didn't have to shoot more.

 

[Vasy]

As someone already quoted the incest tag, the NTR rules for the tag read as,
Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

I think the 3 sisters are clearly romantic interests at this point in the story, and the only reason the BF of Lilith exists right now is to make you feel jealous about it. MC has said several times now that he doesn't trust him and thinks he isn't a good person.

I think following the rules of the site, this game DOES deserve an NTR tag right now.

Except There aren't any scenes between the two, unless you consider working together at a coffee shop an intimate act.

 

[Spiderfox]

If they had some dreamlike weirdness that broke up the symmetrical narrative of the three dreams, it would have worked better.

As it played out, it was just like a mid-season tv episode re-using footage so they didn't have to shoot more.

agreed, somewhat, but the for the next dream he broke out of it and met fairy abby (love her)

 

[micojive]

Except There aren't any scenes between the two, unless you consider working together at a coffee shop an intimate act.

The rules of the tag are pretty clear. It doesn't say anything about needing any visable scenes. It literally just says

Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

 

[frozenfeet]

Lilith is actually making me believe in reincarnation. She certainly sounds like some old fuddy duddy trapped in a young woman's body.

 

[MrFriendly]

The rules of the tag are pretty clear. It doesn't say anything about needing any visable scenes. It literally just says

Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

Yeah, the tag system is supposedly going to be revamped. To me it is NTR if they are fucking, making out, or in some other way physically intimate. What we've seen so far doesn't feel like something to be jealous about.

 

[micojive]

I don't think this game really deserves the NTR tag. I think at this point in the story the mc is more worried about the intentions of the guy, so she doesn't get hurt. I don't think is jealousy. Having the NTR tag people will assume that the girls are cheating on the mc and having sex with other guys, which doesn't happen in the game.

I think at this point in the story the 3 sisters are clearly love interests to the MC, and so far liliths BF is only introduced to make you feel hate / uncomfortable at their relationship. MC says a few times he doesn't think the BF is a good person and questions his actions to the other female customers.

According to the Tag, the rule is Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.] Which is exactly the BFs purpose so far in the story.

 

[cckerberos]

This might be arrogant of me, but when I got to the end of this update I felt like the dev had seen my post.

 

[cckerberos]

I think at this point in the story the 3 sisters are clearly love interests to the MC, and so far liliths BF is only introduced to make you feel hate / uncomfortable at their relationship. MC says a few times he doesn't think the BF is a good person and questions his actions to the other female customers.

According to the Tag, the rule is Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.] Which is exactly the BFs purpose so far in the story.

If there was any sexual content involving the boyfriend, I would agree with you. But there's not.

 

[micojive]

Yeah, the tag system is supposedly going to be revamped. To me it is NTR if they are fucking, making out, or in some other way physically intimate. What we've seen so far doesn't feel like something to be jealous about.

Idk it feels to me the ONLY reason the BF exists right now is to get the player either upset at their relationship or questioning it. MC has only had negative things to say about him, and his actions to the other customers kind of show him in a scummy light. He fits the rule perfectly as it is right now imo.

 

[Badjourasmix]

I think at this point in the story the 3 sisters are clearly love interests to the MC, and so far liliths BF is only introduced to make you feel hate / uncomfortable at their relationship. MC says a few times he doesn't think the BF is a good person and questions his actions to the other female customers.

According to the Tag, the rule is Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.] Which is exactly the BFs purpose so far in the story.

I think they are all potential love interests. But right now in the story I don't think he sees lilith that way. I think his concerns are more as a father figure. Any father would be concerned if he thought his daughter was dating someone with the wrong intentions.

 

[micojive]

If there was any sexual content involving the boyfriend, I would agree with you. But there's not.

There doesnt need to be for the tag to apply. According to the tag it applies of the characters purpose is to make the player/mc jealous...which is pretty much all he is in the game so far to do.

Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

 

[micojive]

I think they are all potential love interests. But right now in the story I don't think he sees lilith that way. I think his concerns are more as a father figure. Any father would be concerned if he thought his daughter was dating someone with the wrong intentions.

I mean, a father doesnt think his daughters are sexually attractive under normal circumstances either but here we are.

 

[MrFriendly]

Idk it feels to me the ONLY reason the BF exists right now is to get the player either upset at their relationship or questioning it. MC has only had negative things to say about him, and his actions to the other customers kind of show him in a scummy light. He fits the rule perfectly as it is right now imo.

Nah, I think he exists to break Lillith's heart by cheating on her and pushing her toward Frank. Think in terms of her saying things like: "why can't I find a guy like you?" instead. Right now Frank sees her as a daughter but perhaps Lillith will be the one who embraces her desire for Frank (Justin, the boyfriend, even looks like him) and makes a move on him.

 

[Badjourasmix]

I was just checking his patreon and judging by the types of content he has planned. I don't even think we will see any scenes with lilith and her boyfriend. The focus of the games seems to be between the mc and the girls.

 

[Vasy]

Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

What has happened so far with the boyfriend that you would point to as being written to elicit feelings of jealousy?

 

[cckerberos]

There doesnt need to be for the tag to apply. According to the tag it applies of the characters purpose is to make the player/mc jealous...which is pretty much all he is in the game so far to do.

Ntr [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

I don't care. The NTR tag is perhaps unique in that a lot of people will immediately ignore any game that has it. That means it needs better than a "well, technically..." argument for a game to be labeled with it, IMHO.

 

[micojive]

What has happened so far with the boyfriend that you would point to as being written to elicit feelings of jealousy?

I mean, just the nature of him existing and the dialog between Lillith and Abby. Lillith saying how much she likes him, trying to get abby to say how "hot" he is. Their prior conversations about lilliths easygoing sex life with previous boyfriends. How she goes "all in" when she is in love with someone.