Xill

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It kinda breaks the game, or rather, it completely changes the dynamic of the game and it looks like the devs want none of that.

With 0 control you're the one who dictates the pace, since you'll never lose by being passive. You're free to forever farm gold, buy edicts and train stats in a perfect way, because there's no pressure on you to keep moving. No need to risk accumulating unwanted passives or to pick a dicey fight.

I like the thought behind it, but the way it's implemented and the time it's being implemented at, is a rightful pain in player's ass. You can't just keep pressing on, because half the game's missing, if you contain yourself to lvl 1 and 2, the game will now punish you for camping but if you go for lvl 3 you'll still get fucked because the balancing is a bit off right now. Damned if you don't, damned if you do.
I hope that isn't the case for the final version. Or somehow I hope the game doesn't end after subjugating level 5 and that you can keep going and just taking care of the prison with the occasional riots.
 

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I hope that isn't the case for the final version. Or somehow I hope the game doesn't end after subjugating level 5 and that you can keep going and just taking care of the prison with the occasional riots.
Interesting how i also have the same thoughts. Would've been hella fun and amazing if that'd be the case. Nonetheless, a splendid game so far!

Also, Xill... What game is your avatar from? :eek:
 

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The number of days USED to be completely irrelevant, but now you'll eventually get a penalty to your Control score if you don't subjugated a level in time.
Any idea what the threshold (how many days for each level not subjugated) for the penalty to control is?
 

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Interesting how i also have the same thoughts. Would've been hella fun and amazing if that'd be the case. Nonetheless, a splendid game so far!

Also, Xill... What game is your avatar from? :eek:
Yeah I would much prefer if you could keep going rather than be forced into a new game+.

Also thats the 2nd time I've been asked in under an hour.
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Any idea what the threshold (how many days for each level not subjugated) for the penalty to control is?
It depends on the difficulty. As far as I know it is after 30/14/7 Days from lowest to highest difficulty and after that, each day you get a stacking penalty of -1 until you beat the boss of the floor. This penalty does not happen on the 3rd Floor currently.
 

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Aly tips for beating the lizard boss, i cant seem to really damage him at lv 29. Also are there any more sexual moves after blow job and does the secretary job have any sex scenes?
 

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I hope that isn't the case for the final version. Or somehow I hope the game doesn't end after subjugating level 5 and that you can keep going and just taking care of the prison with the occasional riots.
Yes, I understand that they want to make a short and replayable game, but being offered a choice of a post-game sandbox mode would definitely be nice.
 

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Also thats the 2nd time I've been asked in under an hour.
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Neat. Learned about a new site with that then. Thanks for sharing. Would have been awesome if she'd be from a game, hehe.

But yeah, i reckon a new game+ isn't such a bad option, if done properly. But yea, i'd also much rather keep on going.

Another thing i'd like to see are more "hidden" items... like in the Edict-section; hidden shopping items you can get when you achieve certain titles/complete certain quests etc. It would add an element of surprise to the whole fundom. But then again, that's only a minor thing, so more important things should be prioritized first.

I also gotta add the fact that i simply -love- the fact that she has more than 1 outfit when doing the minigames! I feel like that is one thing lacking in about 90%+ of th RPGM games; being able to choose/gain/achieve more/new outfits and other viewable customizations throughout the game. I cannot be the only one who sees it that way about this matter, or..? Probably not, but gosh the amount of extra drawing and work it'd take, which is time that be spent on other more important things. Because of that, even if it's doable, it'll probably not be happening anytime soon.
 
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It depends on the difficulty. As far as I know it is after 30/14/7 Days from lowest to highest difficulty and after that, each day you get a stacking penalty of -1 until you beat the boss of the floor. This penalty does not happen on the 3rd Floor currently.
Perhaps they changed something in version "j" because control stays at 0 and I'm already into 90+ day at warden difficulty.
 

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Hi,

The rock-paper-scissors system in combat matters less than your actual stats. If you have extremely low Strength for example, you'll still do poor damage, even if you pick the right counter-color.

The number of days USED to be completely irrelevant, but now you'll eventually get a penalty to your Control score if you don't subjugated a level in time.

If you're too tired, you can either rest in the guard room or just sneak around, you don't need to fight everyone.

There's a level cap for every prison level. Unless you defeat the boss, that's as much as you can level up.
Thank you for your answer. I think I need to increase my stats but I'm a little short of money. I earn little money a day, it's hard to evolve. a last question: what is Order and Control? per day it goes up and it goes down. I don't know what it is. At the moment I have order 60 and control -5. must it stay high? control -5 maybe I'll lose .. :eek:
 

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Perhaps they changed something in version "j" because control stays at 0 and I'm already into 90+ day at warden difficulty.
Like Neriel has pointed out, this was implemented later.
And it's bound to change yet again, if the changelogs I've seen are any indication. They're definitely fiddling with the setting so any hard data is kinda useless if it's going to change every 2 days.

Thank you for your answer. I think I need to increase my stats but I'm a little short of money. I earn little money a day, it's hard to evolve. a last question: what is Order and Control? per day it goes up and it goes down. I don't know what it is. At the moment I have order 60 and control -5. must it stay high? control -5 maybe I'll lose .. :eek:
Sure thing.

Money is slow to accumulate unless you really know what you're doing (and even then the best option is only available AFTER lvl 1). Since you're new, your character stats are probably all over the place and you can't do any one thing efficiently, but that's how the game is, you play, lose and learn. Don't be afraid to start over with a better idea.

About Order and Control - visit the tutorial area in the guard room and speak with everyone, the basics are explained there.
0 order = game over. Low order = more difficult fights but also more money. Control is how much order you lose every time you go to sleep, so in this case you lose 5.
 
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It does still require the right stats. If your Endurance is too low, you get too much pleasure from each round of sex, and might get locked into back-to-back orgasms with no chance to recover. You also need to do what you can to get Energy and Mind up, which are both difficult to increase.
well said. I love the concept, but this can make the game harder for new players. like, who knows about these details on the first playthrough? overall I think you need to play like 2-3 hours to understand the gameplay elements and then start over

I admit, gameplay-wise, level cap needed to prevent farming of easier levels. The developer had an option to increase grinding (like, A LOT), but I feel this is a superior system in any way. also, this way you discourage people from using any form of cheats
 

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well said. I love the concept, but this can make the game harder for new players. like, who knows about these details on the first playthrough?
Everyone who bothers to read. The NPCs in the first area tell you all about the mechanics of the game, including what each stat does and how to improve it. As you progress and unlock more NPCs that provide further details on specific systems like how different enemy types work and what they do.
 

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Like I said, IMHO, the level cap exist to protect you, the newbie from the inmates, not the other way around. Enemy level scales with you after all, and they gain more level than you.

Once you get the gist of the game then surely you can put blame on the level cap that's holding you back, however right now, take time and consider what build is viable for you.
 
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