Poser_Voyeur

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The event is indeed well written, with proper buildup and have a lot of renders put on it, i will give you that. In terms of quality is probably one of the best ones in the game yet.

But why Ellie was without a bra and caring so little about being stared at with such carnal desire by Dylan (someone she is disgusted of)? It's the same Ellie as the one we've met on the game, but she acted really different from how she acts with Dylan normally.
IIRC this was after the whole Viagra at the beach prank that she played on Dylan. It may be that what Sophia said to Ellie, telling her off before they got out of the car, maybe it sank in. And maybe she felt guilty that she had overstepped the boundaries of sibling rivalry.

And then she needed Dylan's help so she had to tone down her usual insults to Dylan.

And then finally, Dylan probably surprised her when he said he just wanted a hug as payment. In most incest games when the female LI asks for a favour, usually the payment would go beyond a hug.
 

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I have a save for that event so I will try it out later and see what happens but Alley_Cat will probably know more since he knows the script very well.
Thanks.

From memory I think initially I clicked on the kissing Elana route, as Elana was more experienced of the two girls. Then saw Julia's disappointment and then scrolled back and changed it to kissing Julia.
 

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That would be the point of this all if L&P wasn't changing the game to please Dylan fans only.

He removed the Twist because of it, if your point stands, why didn't he kept the Twist on? It would make Dylan way more interesting in my view and a lot of other fans.
Now he is changing Ellie personality for Dylan and his fans too, how much more the game will change so Dylan fans can get everything they want?

I know that i'm whining and being annoying. You very right when you say we have a lot of choices, i just feel that the majority of those choices is starting to be around Dylan. His route is kind of forced on us already if we want to have a lot of points in filthy.
As I've pointed out here before - the Twist does nothing for the Sophia/Dylan path, it is a flavor event that went wrong - per L&P. The event was not perceived the way the author thought it would be so he changed the story, not the outcome - Dylan remains at boarding school, no more erotic story line with Sophia.

How many points does Dylan lose when the Twist is revealed??

0 points - that is how big an event L&P intended it to be.

(For those who like to look under the hood, check the code if you don't believe me)

Dylan loses far more points if he peeks at Sophia in the mirror when they are changing in her bedroom (if you take that choice).

In the Vicki and Desean event, if Sophia does not drop her towel, she get's +2 good wife points.

So, if we use the awarding of points to measure the intended impact of an event according to the author, then this event is so minor, it does not merit Any points.

It is worth 0 points in the AWAM story.


But, let's continue to use this change by L&P, the person who knows how he envisions the choices that can occur by the time this story ends, as Proof Positive that he is constantly adjusting the story to favor Dylan. A change that carries so much weight that it has 0 points of impact and has NO effect on the erotic story arc between Sophia and Dylan.
 

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Male to the protagonist is like harem. But sex that is good so far nothing. Open a graph of questions whether there should be sex or not and see what the result will be in your game.;)
 
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Aidens 3rd task could involve adding/removing a piece of clothing.I will not say no panties as that has already been done on the Bennett route.So I would say meaybe add stocking/wear a thong change of style of dress something to do with clothing.
so your thinking the tasks are going to continue to be just more of the same 12 year old show-and-tell kiddie games
 
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And so they come to complain that this erotic novel has no sex, not caring about the story that it Does have and how the choices help create so many interesting discussions... :) Yes - the discussions are fine even if we don't always see eye to eye. So I retire from the Hill called maybe Dylan is not a psychopath and all around waste of virtual flesh.

Time for something different - Summers Gone - where the dialogue between the MC and Bella makes me laugh so hard, I have to stop to breathe (if you want to see hate - what Ellie has for Dylan is a dusting of snow compared to the North Pole for these two). See you tomorrow (punching out on my F95 time clock).
 
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This game needs at least one and half years of more updates before sophia has any kind of sex with dylon or anyone exept her husband.
 
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As I've pointed out here before - the Twist does nothing for the Sophia/Dylan path, it is a flavor event that went wrong - per L&P. The event was not perceived the way the author thought it would be so he changed the story, not the outcome - Dylan remains at boarding school, no more erotic story line with Sophia.

How many points does Dylan lose when the Twist is revealed??

0 points - that is how big an event L&P intended it to be.

(For those who like to look under the hood, check the code if you don't believe me)

Dylan loses far more points if he peeks at Sophia in the mirror when they are changing in her bedroom (if you take that choice).

In the Vicki and Desean event, if Sophia does not drop her towel, she get's +2 good wife points.

So, if we use the awarding of points to measure the intended impact of an event according to the author, then this event is so minor, it does not merit Any points.

It is worth 0 points in the AWAM story.


But, let's continue to use this change by L&P, the person who knows how he envisions the choices that can occur by the time this story ends, as Proof Positive that he is constantly adjusting the story to favor Dylan. A change that carries so much weight that it has 0 points of impact and has NO effect on the erotic story arc between Sophia and Dylan.
It's not about losing or winning points. Ellie and Dylan event have no points in it either as you said. It's a minor event, it probably won't change anything in the main story, maybe add some sex scenes or dialogues maybe not.
This is about the concept of the game and how much weight a character and it's fans has on the decision making process of the dev.

In one even, Dylan is in his way to (maybe) fuck his sister while her base persona is changed on the way.
In the other Dylan is painted as a slightly devilish character.
Which one got removed because the fans didn't like it?

Let's also remember that Dylan is not the MC of the game so he shouldn't be able to manipulate how a character's persona changes. And that this whole argument is pointless if the event ends in friendship, that's what i'm hoping for.
 
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instead of the bikini fashion show? blasphemy.

I swear if L&P ends up in hell, it's because he made us choose between the fashion show or pool game lol
Instead of a night with our hot sister and her filthy rich husband (with skinny dipping involved) plus a lot of our LIs, we got a football night with Liam and Neil, the rapist.

L&P might be already destined to Hell.
 
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I had noted that had included Vicky (whom until this last update gave one Lesbian Temptation points. I think is a shame that we HAVE to meet DeShawn - I would hav been fine with at least the option of continuing where I thought Sophia + Vicky was previously heading.

And I had noted that on the Boarding School route we had seen Amber in the pool. I think Amber is cute and the potential option is there for L&P to take things down the Lesbian foursome (Sophia/Ellie/Amber/Julia) mother-daughter neighbour route just as much as the more usual mother-son neighbour route (Sophia/Dylan/Amber/Sam) that the pool scene was introducing and for which we have seen some great Fanart already.

(And again for the avoidance of doubt, I am not stating that Sophia/Ellie/Amber/Julia route is at all likely anytime soon, especially given recent updates - it was more mentioning it as one of the pairings I would have liked if possible to see at the end of the game).

Apologies for missing off Emma - the character does nt do anything for me, and I was happy to see her transfer to another class. I was fine with her being a background character.
Everything that happened early in AWAM and what I hear from the L&P patrons says that such crazy things as the lesbian foursome, Sofia's sex with old people or even with one old man, group sex with schoolchildren or with members of the football team is simply not available! All hints are just to tease us.

If so, then it's sad.
We play AWAM, and L & P plays us!

Personally, I wish AWAM had many different finals for different routes, from a few options for a good wife, to the most perverted for a dirty one.

And of course, many in between!
In this case, this game will have a huge number of fans.

And I would like to see all the possible options regardless of my personal preferences.
 

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The event is indeed well written, with proper buildup and have a lot of renders put on it, i will give you that. In terms of quality is probably one of the best ones in the game yet.

But why Ellie was without a bra and caring so little about being stared at with such carnal desire by Dylan (someone she is disgusted of)? It's the same Ellie as the one we've met on the game, but she acted really different from how she acts with Dylan normally.
Because she believes him to be a perv. So just by not wearing a bra she can manipulate him.
A former boss of mine came one day asking for something I had that was important for him (sorry). He asked me nicely and once he got it, he fired me.

People act cool, friendly, whatever.. when they want/need something. After that..
Which is why the bonus storyline isn't evidence of Ellie's dislike for Dylan changing. If anything it just reinforces her opinion that he is a perv
But i'll give you this one, good point. People knows that you get more flies with honey instead of vinegar. And Ellie is a beautiful, sexy woman and she knows how use it to lure the flies too.
Have you tried making vinegar? It attracts a hell of a lot of flies, far more than my mead does!
I've had to follow huge amounts of the Dylan path in order to keep the filthy points total high. (Admittedly, I enjoyed the bikini show). There needs to be a branching in the game when Dylan gets a girlfriend, so as not to penalise those who've chosen to let him start proper dating. This would possibly keep everyone happy, or at least happier.
I believe that is the point of the Yoga event - setting Dylan up with Marie, which doesn’t need Dylan points at all
I have a save for that event so I will try it out later and see what happens but Alley_Cat will probably know more since he knows the script very well.
If Ellie kisses Elena, Julia ends up with Elena, and I think it ends the Ellie route, but I'll keep looking to confirm. There are quite a few checks in the code to see if Ellie and Jules kiss
Which pool event?
Which is why I normally call it the chicken fight event. Just calling it "the pool event" is meaningless, since there are so many of them.
If the game have more threesome than this, it will be mostly Dylan+Sophia+(anyone else... really, ANYONE). And that's about it.
There might be a GW threesome with Sophia/Liam/Nathalie
I don't know, it's getting close with Ellie.
Earliest that could happen is playable day 16 if it's the "wild" event, and that could at least 2, 2.5 years awar
Instead of a night with our hot sister and her filthy rich husband (with skinny dipping involved) plus a lot of our LIs, we got a football night with Liam and Neil, the rapist.

L&P might be already destined to Hell.
Why is Neil a rapist? I've always suspected something suspicious because of how he mistreats Jules, but it’s mainly speculation
 
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