StrayArtrist

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You need to upgrade your Endurance with energy and stamina edicts + dexterity boost pleasure damage. Changing your title to something with resists or increased sex dmg is also worth it.
 
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Cream♡Pie

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I don't think this is how more porn game should be, neither shouldn't be. Sometimes a good story, well writed, with decent porn stuff can be really good.
Look at Dark Hero Party, Alansya Chronicle, Overgrown Genesis or even Chronicle of Leridia, they are really long game with tons of content, a bit grindy, but the narration was on point and make you really invested in the game.
I didn't said Karryn's prison is a bad game, i don't know if the game developper are gonna explore their story a little bit more, but sometimes, the long paragraphs are useful to pace out your story and let the player rest between two grind fest.
As a fellow member up there said it, your have only one gameplay style if you want to "win", if you go full corrupt mode, it's game over, and at some point you can't just do shit because of your corruption lvl. I just lost a 8h savefile because it was impossible to beat the lvl3 boss when Karryn was too corrupted... It was frustrating and in my next playthrough i rushed the lvl3 an kick his ass asap. But it wasn't really entertaining.
And i know if i lose too much time with side job, clear riot and grind i probably gonna be unable to beat the lvl4 boss too...
I just hope they gonna make two different playstyle with possible different ending.

Overall it's a really good game, probably one of the best out there, in a pretty good shape for an alpha release. I just have the feeling this game has amazing potential and i hope for the best.
I think it comes down to personal preference.

Personally I like games that include mechanics that lean as much as possible into the porn aspects as possible instead of it being in the narrative.
Cuz for me at least, having games with great written story can be very engaging, but sometimes it's SO good I only focus on the story and end up loosing my hard-on in the process, which sucks cuz that's happened more times than I'd like. That is to say, as a game, I don't want the lewd content just told/shown to me. I want to actively choose to let my character get into those lewd situations whenever I want and as much as I want to.

My favorite example of a game I love that leans into the former part is Kamikaze Ouka Kommittee RPG. The story is pretty meh and straight up porn writing, but that's what I expect. This isn't some AAA game with next-gen graphics and innovative mechanics, just straight up porn gameplay and that's exactly what I want. And the gameplay itself leans into that fantasy really well for me. So much so I end up spending hours getting the heroine into all sorts of lewd situations without actually progressing the story cuz that's how well it does it's job, and I enjoyed every minute I wasted on it.
 
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madchef

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I don't think this is how more porn game should be, neither shouldn't be. Sometimes a good story, well writed, with decent porn stuff can be really good.
Yes and no. Porn games at the moment occupy that peculiar space between a game and narrative. Games in general are not narrated forms of entertainment/pastime. You only need a set of rules and winning/losing conditions to have a game, no narrative explanation or background necessary. Granted, there are genres of games (fabular games) where storytelling is an important element of the play, but there are more games out there that are devoid of that feature. What I like about 'Karryn's Prison' is that it's not a fabular game really, just a spoofy sex-parody of roleplay-style turn-based combat and just as funny sexified parody of economical management game all barely held together by a 'story' which is basically limited to skippable cinematic cutscenes of no particular importance. More games of such quality could and should be made, especially porn. There is a reason why real-life video pornography practically abandoned any form of narration at the turn of the century. They tried hard in the 70ties, 80ties and a good part of 90ties to tell interesting stories revolving around sex, only to realize that depictions of sex do not require a story at all to capture a viewer's full attention. And also realised that any story told to provide justification of this simple act of expressing one's carnal desire is going to come out silly eventually. Sex is sex, what's more to say? Just like with satiating one's hunger, you do not need to explain why you are eating. So nowadays the typical dialog you'll see in a hardcore porn flick would be:

HIM: Hi, what's your name?
HER: Hiiiya, I'm XXX.
HIM: Do you know what we're going to do today, XXX?
HER: Yes, you're going to fuck me in front of a camera...
HIM: Oh right, let's do it then! Turn around and show me your ass!

Even that is redundant, as you'll find millions of fappable clips where you do not even see the performers faces, just their genitals, maybe a part of leg or arm. Nobody says anything to explain the situation, you can't even make out the scenery and tell if it's a bedroom or bathroom, or living room or a private club in a dark alley. It's porn nevertheless and it works.

If you look closely at narration in sex games, it's more or less the same story trying to explain away why the MC is having sex other than just for the sheer enjoyment of it and the presence of a willing partner. And you'll have these well tried tropes of corruption, greed, blackmail, unhealthy curiosity, cheating, mind control, alien parasites, post combat rape... Seldom you'll find scenarios involving loving couples who have sex because they're simply grown adults in a mood for it and no-one watches. Which is probably how most sexual encounters in real life happen. Frankly, I am a bit bored with these overused tropes, their shock value has long expired for me. Having said that, I do appreciate that other players find narration indispensable in their gaming. But you can do without it and still have a great time playing, really! And this applies not just to NSFW games.

Even non-lewd ones don't require story-telling to be playable and enjoyable. Let's just play already! Here's the ball and there's your goal and over there there's mine. Here's the pitch, limited by these white lines. You've got 10 other players on your side, I also have 10. Now use any part of your bodies except hands to put that ball in my goal, while I try to intercept it without coming into contact with your bodies and put the ball in your goal instead. Whoever manages to put the ball in the other side's goal more times then them after 90 minutes have passed wins. That's the game! Sounds fun, wanna play? You can tell a story of how the game went later.

I didn't said Karryn's prison is a bad game, i don't know if the game developper are gonna explore their story a little bit more, but sometimes, the long paragraphs are useful to pace out your story and let the player rest between two grind fest.
Well, the problem is not scarce narration but the grind and strategy involved in building your desired Warden + balancing difficulty levels. I agree, it takes a lot of fucking and deliberate defeats to build the ultimate slut Warden who eats cock for breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper and then drinks a nightcap full of cum before bed to wake up in the morning with a perfect 100% prison order and the Treasury Chest overflowing with gold. Hopefully this will be ironed out in the final release, so you don't need to spend 150+ in-game days or several NG+ sessions to see what superwhore Karryn looks like and how she just walks victorious from one fuckfest to the next, the Brothel Queen of Fort Gannon even as a supposed ultramasochist covered in semen from head to toe.

it's game over, and at some point you can't just do shit because of your corruption lvl. I just lost a 8h savefile because it was impossible to beat the lvl3 boss when Karryn was too corrupted...
Again, the problem is maths not storytelling or lack thereof. Try Secretary difficulty level and you'll want her even more corrupted and the sex scenes to include double penetrations and fisting.
 
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Tsugumi

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Sire Loser Potential candidates I see:

1. Slut Level - many things are tied to it: for example, Charm in battle, which translates into pleasure damage taken by enemies both from attacks and passively. With a value that high a bad move (like some badly picked Edict) might contribute to your downfall.
2. Endurance - is there a reason you skipped those edicts? It reduces pleasure damage taken.
3. Control & Order - if you fail to keep Control in check, you get lower Order, which makes enemy waves slightly different in terms of composition AND stronger.

My semi-educated guess would be: you failed at management and control (yeah, I know). One issue can be controlled, but there is no doubt a tipping point and once you get enough of those - it snowballs. Edicts could be adding to that, as well, somehow.
 

WinKid

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So, to use mods, you do it by erasing and/or writing a new line in the js files, correct?

Out of curiosity, if you simply change the name of the file - i.e. "Karryn.js" into "Karryn.js Mod" - will it affect the game?
 

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The main thing I see with your build is your Mind score is the lowest of all your stats. Mind is the most important stat in the game, whether you're running a slut build or combat build. All Willpower skills are affected by it. The bonus on your Ki, the chance to counterattack when you use focus, the amount of energy regained by Healing Thoughts, how effective Resist Orgasm is, the effect of Suppress and Release skills; all of those depend on Mind.
 
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swpkmn

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So, to use mods, you do it by erasing and/or writing a new line in the js files, correct?

Out of curiosity, if you simply change the name of the file - i.e. "Karryn.js" into "Karryn.js Mod" - will it affect the game?
To clarify on the previous answer, when editing file names, don't change anything after the "." unless you KNOW what you're doing (which you clearly don't) or you'll break the file.
 

Sire Loser

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Tsugumi HappyGoomba For the most of the time i focused on rebuilding prison to get that sweet money. I thought that i can just buy training edicts later when i earn enough. You guys think it is still salvagable when i pump cash into the improve stats edicts or should i just start new game?
 

boobmanlord

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Anyone know how much is disabled by turning off rimjobs? I hate fighting rogues and then out of nowhere rimming them. Or, would it be possible to equip more jewelry than what the game allows...?
 

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boobmanlord Can you clarify what you mean by "how much"? Disabling rimjobs does what it says on the label. Wallow in all the penetrations and ~jobs that remain untouched by it. If you mean something along the lines of "how much content am I screwing myself out of" - very little. It literally prevents only that one act from triggering, enemies are still going to use whatever else remains in their arsenal.
 
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HappyGoomba

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Tsugumi HappyGoomba For the most of the time i focused on rebuilding prison to get that sweet money. I thought that i can just buy training edicts later when i earn enough. You guys think it is still salvagable when i pump cash into the improve stats edicts or should i just start new game?
I would start a new game. You've already reached the level limit, so you can't grow your mind score any more.

Anyone know how much is disabled by turning off rimjobs? I hate fighting rogues and then out of nowhere rimming them. Or, would it be possible to equip more jewelry than what the game allows...?
The only other effects are the loss of a few passives, and the fact that Rogues will no longer initiate sex moves in combat. You can give them other moves by following the instructions here: https://f95zone.to/posts/4953872/
 
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WinKid

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So, a question. I have been looking at it yet unable to find it.

Where is the Toilet (Gloryhole) mini-game located and how to trigger it?
 

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toilet mini-game is in 2nd area when you go up to 2nd area just go straight to the other end of the hallway and you reach the toilets, getting in there you will see a stall with a circle, if not, then you didnt unlock that mini game yet, how you unlock it? im not sure anymore since i have the game on pause since2 or 3 months but i believe it was beating area 2 boss and unlocking edict in edict menu for it
 
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boobmanlord

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Tsugumi Ah, cool, cause in the cheat menu it says something along the lines of "this game has rimjobs in mind" so it's very misleading. I already have a passive or two but I think for my next playthru I'll change rogues and nerds to have different actions.

edit: Actually in the General settings:
"Prevents all rimjob content from occuring while this is option is on (typo with two "is"). Note that this game's progression and full content is designed with rimjobs in mind. Only select this option if it'd otherwise keep you from wanting to play this game."
So they make it sound more than what it really is. I've followed Goomba's guide and swap out rogues to counter kick and nerds to standing HJ, seems fitting!


HappyGoomba That's SO USEFUL! Thank you. And yes, not a fan of footjob so I may do the same for them! Thank you both of you.
 
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HappyGoomba

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Tsugumi Ah, cool, cause in the cheat menu it says something along the lines of "this game has rimjobs in mind" so it's very misleading. I already have a passive or two but I think for my next playthru I'll change rogues and nerds to have different actions.

edit: Actually in the General settings:
"Prevents all rimjob content from occuring while this is option is on (typo with two "is"). Note that this game's progression and full content is designed with rimjobs in mind. Only select this option if it'd otherwise keep you from wanting to play this game."
So they make it sound more than what it really is. I've followed Goomba's guide and swap out rogues to counter kick and nerds to standing HJ, seems fitting!


HappyGoomba That's SO USEFUL! Thank you. And yes, not a fan of footjob so I may do the same for them! Thank you both of you.
Does the kick counter work for rogues? They don't usually have it, so I assumed there wouldn't be art assets for it.
 
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